Overzealous Policing?
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I'll take a strong police force any day over the weedy police service that it's become, where police can be spat on, insulted or totally ignored almost with impunity. I'd welcome a return to the old system where those that pushed their luck too far risked falling down the cell steps a few times while in police custody. Perhaps the SPG should be resurrected too.
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I'll take a strong police force any day over the weedy police service that it's become, where police can be spat on, insulted or totally ignored almost with impunity. I'd welcome a return to the old system where those that pushed their luck too far risked falling down the cell steps a few times while in police custody. Perhaps the SPG should be resurrected too.
Yes,that's called appropriate force.Great when your dealing with dangerous,hardened criminals.Not so you can smash up someones car when you have stopped them & asked for identification.
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I do agree that it wasn't handled well and the driver should have been told in no uncertain terms that force will be used to effect an arrest and to gain entry to the car in order to do so."
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I'll take a strong police force any day over the weedy police service that it's become, where police can be spat on, insulted or totally ignored almost with impunity. I'd welcome a return to the old system where those that pushed their luck too far risked falling down the cell steps a few times while in police custody. Perhaps the SPG should be resurrected too.
Last edited by jonc; 22 September 2016 at 09:12 PM.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West...us_Crime_Squad
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"I would have suggested that after several pleas, the rear door would have been the better option to go for rather than the windscreen.
I do agree that it wasn't handled well and the driver should have been told in no uncertain terms that force will be used to effect an arrest and to gain entry to the car in order to do so."
I do agree that it wasn't handled well and the driver should have been told in no uncertain terms that force will be used to effect an arrest and to gain entry to the car in order to do so."
#68
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you seem to be confused
let me explain
no one is arguing that the police aren't allowed to perform the job within the confines of the law (apart from some who seem to think a quick "duff up" in the cells is acceptable)
just simply that they go about it in a professional manner without going bat **** crazy
if you think the policeman's behaviour is acceptable - that's your prerogative
let me explain
no one is arguing that the police aren't allowed to perform the job within the confines of the law (apart from some who seem to think a quick "duff up" in the cells is acceptable)
just simply that they go about it in a professional manner without going bat **** crazy
if you think the policeman's behaviour is acceptable - that's your prerogative
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you seem to be confused
let me explain
no one is arguing that the police aren't allowed to perform the job within the confines of the law (apart from some who seem to think a quick "duff up" in the cells is acceptable)
just simply that they go about it in a professional manner without going bat **** crazy
if you think the policeman's behaviour is acceptable - that's your prerogative
let me explain
no one is arguing that the police aren't allowed to perform the job within the confines of the law (apart from some who seem to think a quick "duff up" in the cells is acceptable)
just simply that they go about it in a professional manner without going bat **** crazy
if you think the policeman's behaviour is acceptable - that's your prerogative
The problem lies with the law itself, which works well enough when dealing with the criminal fraternity. Unfortunately it has rendered the police almost impotent when trying to handle disruptive 'street' behaviour like the incident cited here.
Fearing accusations of police brutality or over reaction officers dare do almost nothing when faced with drunken abuse or refusals to comply with lawful requests. Is it too much to require respect for those at the sharp end? It seems it is.
This has led to multiple incidents of ignorant and totally unacceptable behaviour towards the police, sickening examples being the usual Friday and Saturday night bedlam in most town centres. These have become virtual no-go areas for law abiding citizens and the offenders know they can get away with their foul behaviour because even if arrested the courts take little or no action against them.
It's little wonder that UK police forces are experiencing a worrying level of resignations and low recruitment. Who would want to be exposed to the abuse the police are forced to suffer, with little support from the courts, police bosses and, sadly, a large percentage of the public. The slightest mistake in procedure and the police service comes down heavily on an officer and the subsequent investigation can take months.
Back in the day the fear of an off-piste walloping kept most of the street hard men in line. I am sure I am not the only one who would welcome seeing the street scum getting a well deserved hammering to put them in their place. I am equally sure the milksops on Scoobynet won't necessarily agree with that viewpoint!
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No, wrong. The problem started with the driver's refusal to comply with a reasonable request to get out of his car. The fact that he filmed the whole episode suggests it was a deliberate attempt to provoke a strong reaction. Personally I think he deserved to be pulled through the window by his ears.
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No, wrong. The problem started with the driver's refusal to comply with a reasonable request to get out of his car. The fact that he filmed the whole episode suggests it was a deliberate attempt to provoke a strong reaction. Personally I think he deserved to be pulled through the window by his ears.
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No, wrong. The problem started with the driver's refusal to comply with a reasonable request to get out of his car. The fact that he filmed the whole episode suggests it was a deliberate attempt to provoke a strong reaction. Personally I think he deserved to be pulled through the window by his ears.
I saw a policeman having a hissy fit
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Typically it's the hand wringers and defenders of the rights of oiks and street scum who are the first to run crying to the despised police when their house is broken into, their car is vandalised or their daughter is assaulted in the park. Then no punishment is too harsh for the perpetrator and outrage and a strong sense of injustice is felt at the leniency of the sentences dished out in most courts. Horse whipping is too good for them, and a two months suspended sentence or 30 hours community service just doesn't seem to cut it somehow. But you can't have it both ways.
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I don't want it both ways
I just want the police to behave in a professional manner
that they have to deal with "street scum" is sort of in the job title
otherwise they may as well sit in the police station eating donuts
you think he behaved in a professional manner - fine
plenty of people don't
I just want the police to behave in a professional manner
that they have to deal with "street scum" is sort of in the job title
otherwise they may as well sit in the police station eating donuts
you think he behaved in a professional manner - fine
plenty of people don't
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Typically it's the hand wringers and defenders of the rights of oiks and street scum who are the first to run crying to the despised police when their house is broken into, their car is vandalised or their daughter is assaulted in the park. Then no punishment is too harsh for the perpetrator and outrage and a strong sense of injustice is felt at the leniency of the sentences dished out in most courts. Horse whipping is too good for them, and a two months suspended sentence or 30 hours community service just doesn't seem to cut it somehow. But you can't have it both ways.
Last edited by jonc; 23 September 2016 at 04:32 PM.
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it would be interesting to see the stats on "petty" street crime and crime in general
it seems to be declining - but I have no substantive basis for that
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Rose tinted spectacles are not required to recall that not so many years ago town centres were not the night-time no go areas they have become at weekends, thanks to shocking behaviour, rampaging drunks and an impotent police service. This bothers me considerably and I would like to see a more robust police response, but seemingly it's not acceptable.
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Rose tinted spectacles are not required to recall that not so many years ago town centres were not the night-time no go areas they have become at weekends, thanks to shocking behavior, rampaging drunks and an impotent police service. This bothers me considerably and I would like to see a more robust police response, but seemingly it's not acceptable.
Last edited by jonc; 23 September 2016 at 07:00 PM.
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Would not give our police the time of day
Bunch of thickos with only a uniform suggesting they are not criminals
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Bunch of thickos with only a uniform suggesting they are not criminals
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