So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
#6991
Would Starmer & co. really be any better?
#6993
So "Bregretful" is now a word!
https://unherd.com/2023/01/introduci...-britain-2023/
Quite astonishing, only a single constituency thinks that Brexit wasn't a mistake, with two other constituencies split 50/50. In the remaining 629 constituencies, the majority now believe Brexit was a mistake!
I'd be interested to know how many Brexit supporters on here now regret their vote (under James O'Briens favoured motto - contempt for the conman, compassion for the conned)!
https://unherd.com/2023/01/introduci...-britain-2023/
Quite astonishing, only a single constituency thinks that Brexit wasn't a mistake, with two other constituencies split 50/50. In the remaining 629 constituencies, the majority now believe Brexit was a mistake!
I'd be interested to know how many Brexit supporters on here now regret their vote (under James O'Briens favoured motto - contempt for the conman, compassion for the conned)!
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#6994
The only die hards supporters are those old farts frothing at the the mouth with how we haven't broken free from Brussels tentacles and its only this thats holding the country back
They never actually elucidate however . Presumably its the Singapore-on-Thames model , who knows
Russian economy doing better , thanks to us ...
They never actually elucidate however . Presumably its the Singapore-on-Thames model , who knows
Russian economy doing better , thanks to us ...
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So "Bregretful" is now a word!
https://unherd.com/2023/01/introduci...-britain-2023/
Quite astonishing, only a single constituency thinks that Brexit wasn't a mistake, with two other constituencies split 50/50. In the remaining 629 constituencies, the majority now believe Brexit was a mistake!
I'd be interested to know how many Brexit supporters on here now regret their vote (under James O'Briens favoured motto - contempt for the conman, compassion for the conned)!
https://unherd.com/2023/01/introduci...-britain-2023/
Quite astonishing, only a single constituency thinks that Brexit wasn't a mistake, with two other constituencies split 50/50. In the remaining 629 constituencies, the majority now believe Brexit was a mistake!
I'd be interested to know how many Brexit supporters on here now regret their vote (under James O'Briens favoured motto - contempt for the conman, compassion for the conned)!
There is underlying issues that's not being raised in all of this alleged change of mood:
Whilst in the EU, the EU was blamed on every hardship, hinderance and hypothetical belief.
Now, any issues we suffer today are being blamed on Brexit....
...The problem, like blaming the EU beforehand is that not everything happening now is due to Brexit; Since 2019 there's been a clusterf**k of issues and the crux is we're all worse off now than five years ago with it without Brexit.
The biggest problems and fears for people across Europe are the same as those in the UK. So the question is not are we worse off out of the EU, but BY HOW MUCH?!
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...al-eu-measures
#6997
https://www.theguardian.com/business...e-economy-rise
Personally I think it's just another con to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, I'm sure our puppet masters are making a very large fortune out of the de-valuation of the pound.
Personally I think it's just another con to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, I'm sure our puppet masters are making a very large fortune out of the de-valuation of the pound.
Brexit/ covid/ Usa war with Russia
take your pick
#7000
I didnt realise hes 70 ..! , i doubt he's going to keel over anytime soon - probably outlive me
he's also brought stability to an entire continent,despite all western efforts to break it up / send in bribed puppets
he's also brought stability to an entire continent,despite all western efforts to break it up / send in bribed puppets
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#7001
There is underlying issues that's not being raised in all of this alleged change of mood:
Whilst in the EU, the EU was blamed on every hardship, hinderance and hypothetical belief.
Now, any issues we suffer today are being blamed on Brexit....
...The problem, like blaming the EU beforehand is that not everything happening now is due to Brexit; Since 2019 there's been a clusterf**k of issues and the crux is we're all worse off now than five years ago with it without Brexit.
The biggest problems and fears for people across Europe are the same as those in the UK. So the question is not are we worse off out of the EU, but BY HOW MUCH?!
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...al-eu-measures
Whilst in the EU, the EU was blamed on every hardship, hinderance and hypothetical belief.
Now, any issues we suffer today are being blamed on Brexit....
...The problem, like blaming the EU beforehand is that not everything happening now is due to Brexit; Since 2019 there's been a clusterf**k of issues and the crux is we're all worse off now than five years ago with it without Brexit.
The biggest problems and fears for people across Europe are the same as those in the UK. So the question is not are we worse off out of the EU, but BY HOW MUCH?!
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...al-eu-measures
It is true that Covid and the war have impacted everybody, but not everybody is doing as badly as the UK right now. The raw facts though; inflation is higher in the UK than other EU countries. The UK is the only country in the G7 that will be in recession this year and growth in the UK is worse than Russia. Investment in the UK has pretty much dried up with the UK car industry pretty much dead as manufacturers such a Mini and JLR moving production to EU, Honda has left UK, Nissan also looks to be on the way out.
Generally, the UK is really looking like the sick man of Europe again. While everyone is struggling following the global conditions of the past few years, the UK is struggling that bit more. The only major difference for the UK than other countries is Brexit and the political turmoil and uncertainty in the UK created by Brexit. The BoE statement last week following the latest interest rate hike is that the effect of Brexit is as bad as predicted, but has impacted more quickly than predicted.
Time will be the ultimate judge. The effects of Covid and the War will be short term and the longer the UK remains in decline relative to its EU neighbours, the less the government can excuse the decline on anything other than Brexit.
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It would be nice if we could exacly say the impact of Brexit, but it is true that Covid and the war in Ukraine have somewhat muddied the waters, so it is very difficult to say what has impacted what and by how much, but it's also true to say that Covid and the war are being used by the Tories to divert attention away from Brexit.
It is true that Covid and the war have impacted everybody, but not everybody is doing as badly as the UK right now. The raw facts though; inflation is higher in the UK than other EU countries. The UK is the only country in the G7 that will be in recession this year and growth in the UK is worse than Russia. Investment in the UK has pretty much dried up with the UK car industry pretty much dead as manufacturers such a Mini and JLR moving production to EU, Honda has left UK, Nissan also looks to be on the way out.
Generally, the UK is really looking like the sick man of Europe again. While everyone is struggling following the global conditions of the past few years, the UK is struggling that bit more. The only major difference for the UK than other countries is Brexit and the political turmoil and uncertainty in the UK created by Brexit. The BoE statement last week following the latest interest rate hike is that the effect of Brexit is as bad as predicted, but has impacted more quickly than predicted.
Time will be the ultimate judge. The effects of Covid and the War will be short term and the longer the UK remains in decline relative to its EU neighbours, the less the government can excuse the decline on anything other than Brexit.
It is true that Covid and the war have impacted everybody, but not everybody is doing as badly as the UK right now. The raw facts though; inflation is higher in the UK than other EU countries. The UK is the only country in the G7 that will be in recession this year and growth in the UK is worse than Russia. Investment in the UK has pretty much dried up with the UK car industry pretty much dead as manufacturers such a Mini and JLR moving production to EU, Honda has left UK, Nissan also looks to be on the way out.
Generally, the UK is really looking like the sick man of Europe again. While everyone is struggling following the global conditions of the past few years, the UK is struggling that bit more. The only major difference for the UK than other countries is Brexit and the political turmoil and uncertainty in the UK created by Brexit. The BoE statement last week following the latest interest rate hike is that the effect of Brexit is as bad as predicted, but has impacted more quickly than predicted.
Time will be the ultimate judge. The effects of Covid and the War will be short term and the longer the UK remains in decline relative to its EU neighbours, the less the government can excuse the decline on anything other than Brexit.
I cannot envisage a Tory victory in the next GE, so Labour need to get their ****e together NOW so they don't **** it up...but then I was wrong about the leave vote, so what do I know
#7003
I'd agree with that, and add a lack of leadership when the country most needed it...May popping her head above the parapet to protest her innocence, and blaming others for her lack of vision and ability does not help with our international standing either.
I cannot envisage a Tory victory in the next GE, so Labour need to get their ****e together NOW so they don't **** it up...but then I was wrong about the leave vote, so what do I know
I cannot envisage a Tory victory in the next GE, so Labour need to get their ****e together NOW so they don't **** it up...but then I was wrong about the leave vote, so what do I know
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#7007
So us small time idiots have to be convinced that the best way fwd with our failing economy / rip off utilities is to pump up the supply of weaponry to conflict the other side of the Eu , at the behest of USA
#7008
The gov thinks we are a rich country - so can just import food inc from Europe / Aus and USA !
so suck it up plebs , farmers are just countryside custodians / quality artisan producers for the well off
so suck it up plebs , farmers are just countryside custodians / quality artisan producers for the well off
#7009
France has Tomatoes on the shelves
but we got to swallow the climate bullshoite
wasn't brexshoite intended to boost home grown industries ?
looks very much like the opposite from where I am
but we got to swallow the climate bullshoite
wasn't brexshoite intended to boost home grown industries ?
looks very much like the opposite from where I am
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#7010
There are many reasons for the UK shortage that come together to create the perfect storm, but definitely one of those reasons is Brexit, particularly with non EU countries such as Morocco prioritising the EU bloc over supply to the UK because of market size.
Would there still be supply issues in the UK without Brexit - Probably!
Would the supply issues be less bad if the UK had not left the EU - Probably!
Did the Tories lie to you about food prices being lower after Brexit - Definitely!
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#7012
I can also confirm that my local supermarket here is Germany is fully stocked with all manor of vegetables, with multiple varieties of tomatoes, big, small and funny shaped, two different types of cucumber, lots of varieties of lettuce including icebergs and to top it off, no discernable price change!
There are many reasons for the UK shortage that come together to create the perfect storm, but definitely one of those reasons is Brexit, particularly with non EU countries such as Morocco prioritising the EU bloc over supply to the UK because of market size.
Would there still be supply issues in the UK without Brexit - Probably!
Would the supply issues be less bad if the UK had not left the EU - Probably!
Did the Tories lie to you about food prices being lower after Brexit - Definitely!
There are many reasons for the UK shortage that come together to create the perfect storm, but definitely one of those reasons is Brexit, particularly with non EU countries such as Morocco prioritising the EU bloc over supply to the UK because of market size.
Would there still be supply issues in the UK without Brexit - Probably!
Would the supply issues be less bad if the UK had not left the EU - Probably!
Did the Tories lie to you about food prices being lower after Brexit - Definitely!
#7013
This is there state UK , where we got the most unhealthy fat **** minister is telling the public to get a better job in order to eat better
why are these people still in power , the rest the cabinet are also ****s
why are these people still in power , the rest the cabinet are also ****s
#7015
#7017
So Rishi has done a new deal with the EU to fix Boris' half-baked oven-ready deal.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ets-trade-deal
So now he's trying to flog it to the public by saying how great it is to have access to both your domestic market and the whole of the EU! Just like we all used to have before we left the EU then! So NI is set to boom while the rest of the UK goes down the pan!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ets-trade-deal
Northern Ireland is in the unbelievably special position, the unique position in the entire world in having privileged access not just to the UK home market, which is the fifth biggest in the world, but also the European Union single market.