Conversion
04 January 2017 | 09:50 AM
#31
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He's saving money doing a conversion himself that I doubt he has any idea to do. Also he is saving money by buying a written off wrx, another car to drive, insurance for that other car and he already has any part he will need like an engine crane and you know anything else he will need.
Not being nasty but £10 says this won't happen. I'll give you 1 year. If not you paypal me £10. If you have swapped a 2.0 into your 1.6 and thrown on some ITB's I'll paypal you £10, you'll need it
Not being nasty but £10 says this won't happen. I'll give you 1 year. If not you paypal me £10. If you have swapped a 2.0 into your 1.6 and thrown on some ITB's I'll paypal you £10, you'll need it
05 January 2017 | 03:06 AM
#34
The main reason you got $hit off people on Fb and now on here is, it's not a very good idea 
Impreza is a pretty heavy car and the engines are pretty crap without a turbo and not very good on fuel either, 2.0L is not much better than a Turbo around town as in about 4/5mpg and maybe not even that much as you really need to work them to make decent progress, mate had a 2.0L classic wagon as a run around, only good thing about them is the 4wd in the winter, 1.6 or 2.0L is not really going to make that much difference, but you'll probably spend a lot of time with the car off the road and a $hit load of money.
If you want a 2.0L that badly just buy one, but tbh unless you really really need 4wd then I wouldn't bother, there are so many better cheaper to run cars out there that you can gain some driving experience and no claims bonus on, got a couple of mates out here, one has a clio 1.5dci and the other has a pug 206 1.4 both great fun to drive, p1$$ all over a non turbo scoob and cost bugger all to run.
Or you could do what I've done and go retro with something like what I have which is a MK1 Golf 16td power figures don't sound great but with reasonable torque and only 800kg which is about half what your scoob weighs it keeps up with and catches the 1.4 pug could probably pass him if I was stupid enough and it stayed in front of the clio though to be fair he was all over me but more importantly great fun to drive does 55mpg no matter how I drive it which is mostly ***** out, really easy to work on and cool as ****. 
Oh and at 80mph it feels like you're about to break the sound barrier.
Impreza is a pretty heavy car and the engines are pretty crap without a turbo and not very good on fuel either, 2.0L is not much better than a Turbo around town as in about 4/5mpg and maybe not even that much as you really need to work them to make decent progress, mate had a 2.0L classic wagon as a run around, only good thing about them is the 4wd in the winter, 1.6 or 2.0L is not really going to make that much difference, but you'll probably spend a lot of time with the car off the road and a $hit load of money. If you want a 2.0L that badly just buy one, but tbh unless you really really need 4wd then I wouldn't bother, there are so many better cheaper to run cars out there that you can gain some driving experience and no claims bonus on, got a couple of mates out here, one has a clio 1.5dci and the other has a pug 206 1.4 both great fun to drive, p1$$ all over a non turbo scoob and cost bugger all to run.
Or you could do what I've done and go retro with something like what I have which is a MK1 Golf 16td power figures don't sound great but with reasonable torque and only 800kg which is about half what your scoob weighs it keeps up with and catches the 1.4 pug could probably pass him if I was stupid enough and it stayed in front of the clio though to be fair he was all over me
but more importantly great fun to drive does 55mpg no matter how I drive it which is mostly ***** out, really easy to work on and cool as ****. Oh and at 80mph it feels like you're about to break the sound barrier.
Last edited by ditchmyster; 05 January 2017 at 03:16 AM.
05 January 2017 | 06:14 PM
#35
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The main reason you got $hit off people on Fb and now on here is, it's not a very good idea Impreza is a pretty heavy car and the engines are pretty crap without a turbo and not very good on fuel either, 2.0L is not much better than a Turbo around town as in about 4/5mpg and maybe not even that much as you really need to work them to make decent progress, mate had a 2.0L classic wagon as a run around, only good thing about them is the 4wd in the winter, 1.6 or 2.0L is not really going to make that much difference, but you'll probably spend a lot of time with the car off the road and a $hit load of money.
If you want a 2.0L that badly just buy one, but tbh unless you really really need 4wd then I wouldn't bother, there are so many better cheaper to run cars out there that you can gain some driving experience and no claims bonus on, got a couple of mates out here, one has a clio 1.5dci and the other has a pug 206 1.4 both great fun to drive, p1$$ all over a non turbo scoob and cost bugger all to run.
Or you could do what I've done and go retro with something like what I have which is a MK1 Golf 16td power figures don't sound great but with reasonable torque and only 800kg which is about half what your scoob weighs it keeps up with and catches the 1.4 pug could probably pass him if I was stupid enough and it stayed in front of the clio though to be fair he was all over me but more importantly great fun to drive does 55mpg no matter how I drive it which is mostly ***** out, really easy to work on and cool as ****.
Oh and at 80mph it feels like you're about to break the sound barrier.
Impreza is a pretty heavy car and the engines are pretty crap without a turbo and not very good on fuel either, 2.0L is not much better than a Turbo around town as in about 4/5mpg and maybe not even that much as you really need to work them to make decent progress, mate had a 2.0L classic wagon as a run around, only good thing about them is the 4wd in the winter, 1.6 or 2.0L is not really going to make that much difference, but you'll probably spend a lot of time with the car off the road and a $hit load of money. If you want a 2.0L that badly just buy one, but tbh unless you really really need 4wd then I wouldn't bother, there are so many better cheaper to run cars out there that you can gain some driving experience and no claims bonus on, got a couple of mates out here, one has a clio 1.5dci and the other has a pug 206 1.4 both great fun to drive, p1$$ all over a non turbo scoob and cost bugger all to run.
Or you could do what I've done and go retro with something like what I have which is a MK1 Golf 16td power figures don't sound great but with reasonable torque and only 800kg which is about half what your scoob weighs it keeps up with and catches the 1.4 pug could probably pass him if I was stupid enough and it stayed in front of the clio though to be fair he was all over me
but more importantly great fun to drive does 55mpg no matter how I drive it which is mostly ***** out, really easy to work on and cool as ****. Oh and at 80mph it feels like you're about to break the sound barrier.
05 January 2017 | 06:57 PM
#37
Have either of you guys ever driven a na scoob, seriously woeful and the one I drove was a 2.0L, this guy has a 1.6L seriously they weigh like a ton and a half and it really shows, my 2 ton+ Isuzu Trooper was faster than the 2.0L Impreza.
The lad is 20 with a years ncb, he's better off in every single way getting himself a little go cart, getting some experience and saving himself a $hit load of cash, time and hastle swapping one slow engine for another that can barely pull the skin off a custard tart.
Then when he has more NCB and more cash in the bank he can get himself a turbo version, what part of that are you both struggling with.
Good things come to those who wait.
The lad is 20 with a years ncb, he's better off in every single way getting himself a little go cart, getting some experience and saving himself a $hit load of cash, time and hastle swapping one slow engine for another that can barely pull the skin off a custard tart.
Then when he has more NCB and more cash in the bank he can get himself a turbo version, what part of that are you both struggling with.
Good things come to those who wait.
05 January 2017 | 07:06 PM
#39
WRX is an absolute flying machine compared to a 2.0L n/a Impreza so next to a 1.6L they're like the starship Enterprize.
And again in todays market there are plenty of £2/3k diesels that will give a standard WRX a good run for it's money. something like a Fabia VRS diesel for example, pick them up for that sort of money no problem.
And again in todays market there are plenty of £2/3k diesels that will give a standard WRX a good run for it's money. something like a Fabia VRS diesel for example, pick them up for that sort of money no problem.
Last edited by ditchmyster; 05 January 2017 at 07:11 PM.
05 January 2017 | 08:23 PM
#40
WRX is an absolute flying machine compared to a 2.0L n/a Impreza so next to a 1.6L they're like the starship Enterprize.
And again in todays market there are plenty of £2/3k diesels that will give a standard WRX a good run for it's money. something like a Fabia VRS diesel for example, pick them up for that sort of money no problem.
And again in todays market there are plenty of £2/3k diesels that will give a standard WRX a good run for it's money. something like a Fabia VRS diesel for example, pick them up for that sort of money no problem.
Overall your advice is sound, if you read between the lines whilst wearing a welding mask
No doubt that the OP will ignore the advice (he asked for) and waste a shed load of cash on the 'conversion'
05 January 2017 | 09:31 PM
#41
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Run the wagon into the ground u will end spending ££££s on a conversion and chances are something will go wrong save the rent up over a few years then get itself wrx I started of with mk3 Astra ecotec bundle of scrap now have wrx hawk with 28k on the clock mint you can do anything if u put ur mind to it
05 January 2017 | 09:39 PM
#42
Jeez if the Fabia VRS can give a WRX a run then the STi boys will be toast
Overall your advice is sound, if you read between the lines whilst wearing a welding mask
No doubt that the OP will ignore the advice (he asked for) and waste a shed load of cash on the 'conversion'
Overall your advice is sound, if you read between the lines whilst wearing a welding mask
No doubt that the OP will ignore the advice (he asked for) and waste a shed load of cash on the 'conversion'
Subarus are old hat, they're not the all conquering force to be reckoned with that they once were, it's 25yr old technology, things have moved on, there are 1.1L turbo engines that will give them a hard time once moving and return 60mpg.
P.S the PD130 engined in the Fabia VRS map to about 280bhp with supporting mods with silly torque numbers that subaru owners need to splash a small fortune to achieve.
Last edited by ditchmyster; 05 January 2017 at 09:42 PM.
05 January 2017 | 10:59 PM
#43
06 January 2017 | 07:30 AM
#44
Had a look on you tube, these Fabias can be a bit mental and 4wd 320bhp gets you 450 ft lb
not bad for an oil burner, stage 1 map sees around the 225bhp mark which is pretty impressive from a starting point of 130bhp.
