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22 February 2017 | 10:59 PM
#31
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I had one for a year, great VFM and fun! The seat and over asisted brake servo (pre 2009 model) got on my nerves though and I changed it for a modified 500 Abarth.
It's as economic as the Panda (or better if taking it easy) while still being fun and doesn't burn any oil.
To the OP watch out cambelt tensioner rattling from the Cooper, otherwise a fun car to drive.
It's as economic as the Panda (or better if taking it easy) while still being fun and doesn't burn any oil.
To the OP watch out cambelt tensioner rattling from the Cooper, otherwise a fun car to drive.
22 February 2017 | 11:01 PM
#32
Ours is on PCP, we paid £1000 deposit and just under £200 a month, over 2 years. So ~£5800 over 2 years. Spent £384 on electricity (fuel) for 16000 miles. And £100 on servicing/maintenance. Then handed it back and got a new one earlier this month, same deal but for a bigger battery and the top spec model instead of the mid-range.
If you wanted to buy a brand new Leaf you could probably get one for £18K, but they are much better on finance. Nearly new ones can be had for around £14K if you can find the right deal(er).
If you wanted to buy a brand new Leaf you could probably get one for £18K, but they are much better on finance. Nearly new ones can be had for around £14K if you can find the right deal(er).
22 February 2017 | 11:06 PM
#33
if you are trying to preserve your car i undestand that , my daily is a fsti getting 35 mpg , the newer fsti has slight longer gears so maybe even better , it's on around 155k miles now , good all rounder not much more price wise to run than any thing else , i'm finding it expensive running too many cars and it's not always cost effective buying some thing more economical to run as it still costs to run that v what i wound have spent on fuel etc any way
I'd have kept my FSTi if I didn't have to commute 160 miles a day.
A car is to be used and I couldn't justify having an expensive car sat in the garage as I have no time or mood to drive in the weekends following the work commute.
If I had to commute up to 60 miles a day (roundtrip) I'd have kept the FSTi and used it daily.
155k miles, wow that's some mileage! Have you had anything refreshed in the engine?
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22 February 2017 | 11:31 PM
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a rebuild forged at 87k miles , i think it may even be higher mileage , it been mapped to run a bit learner when driven at a constant 2500 revs , 462 miles per tank was not bad for what it is
going back on topic a bit , insurance on a car plus tax say 500£ per year plus any car that's used needs servicing subaru is not the only car that uses a cambelt , i've chosen to have a few cars but the only positive side is wear and tear is shared out but i'm sure if i had one car only that it would be cheaper than running two , diesel yes more economical but petrol is cheaper but by the time you have paid for the other car you are likely to be more out of pocket than if you just ran one , funnily enough my monaro is as economical as the fsti on a long run around town fsti is better , other factor drive a nice car to work or not so good i would rather go for a nice one , i seem to keep buying cars but forget to sell any lol
going back on topic a bit , insurance on a car plus tax say 500£ per year plus any car that's used needs servicing subaru is not the only car that uses a cambelt , i've chosen to have a few cars but the only positive side is wear and tear is shared out but i'm sure if i had one car only that it would be cheaper than running two , diesel yes more economical but petrol is cheaper but by the time you have paid for the other car you are likely to be more out of pocket than if you just ran one , funnily enough my monaro is as economical as the fsti on a long run around town fsti is better , other factor drive a nice car to work or not so good i would rather go for a nice one , i seem to keep buying cars but forget to sell any lol
23 February 2017 | 11:19 AM
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Range depends on lots of things, most notably size/health of battery, ambient temperature and the speed you drive. In the deepest darkest depths of (southern England) winter I would still be comfortable with getting 100 miles on a full charge with the 30 kWh battery Leaf. There were no 30 kWh cars before December 2015, before that everything was 24 kWh – bank on 80 mile range in winter for a Gen 2 (2013 onwards).
Going 70+ (indicated) eats battery quickly, so most Leafers cruise at 60-65 on motorways if they have a long way to go.
23 February 2017 | 12:26 PM
#36
I somewhat disagree.
So I would service it 4 times a year with my car over once with a normal car if it was 20k miles a year. That would also be a set of tyres too, and as I run Michelin Super Sports that's a fair bit of money. And no I don't want cheaper tyres on it. Fuel is also worse in the STi then something like an Alfa Guilietta, plus you would tax the scoob every 6 months which makes up for the tax on a cheap car for a year. Yes, fixing a car costs money, but 60k on the scoob in 3 years would also warrant parts to be replaced. The only massive additional cost is insurance, but it's not a normal STi and they're getting rare these days.
Yes you have depreciation, but mine has 98k and would see 160k in 3 years. It's a Blobeye Widetrack STi so the money would be level or would go up if I park it for the winter.
I honestly think it's about the same and I'd get to keep it longer and in better shape. No brainer if you ask me.
So I would service it 4 times a year with my car over once with a normal car if it was 20k miles a year. That would also be a set of tyres too, and as I run Michelin Super Sports that's a fair bit of money. And no I don't want cheaper tyres on it. Fuel is also worse in the STi then something like an Alfa Guilietta, plus you would tax the scoob every 6 months which makes up for the tax on a cheap car for a year. Yes, fixing a car costs money, but 60k on the scoob in 3 years would also warrant parts to be replaced. The only massive additional cost is insurance, but it's not a normal STi and they're getting rare these days.
Yes you have depreciation, but mine has 98k and would see 160k in 3 years. It's a Blobeye Widetrack STi so the money would be level or would go up if I park it for the winter.
I honestly think it's about the same and I'd get to keep it longer and in better shape. No brainer if you ask me.
And ultimately you'll be driving 60k in a Euro-box, when you could be driving a Scooby. No brainer, as you say
23 February 2017 | 01:06 PM
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You'll be taxing both cars each year and insuring both cars each year and servicing both cars each year and MoT both cars each year... True you would need to service the Scooby more regularly but you can offset that against the money saved in servicing, taxing, insuring and Mot a second car. I'm pretty sure that 60k on an Alfa Guilietta will warrant replacement parts too. I doubt you'll save much more than £10 a week in fuel costs - I know, I've just done 50k in 2 years in mine.
And ultimately you'll be driving 60k in a Euro-box, when you could be driving a Scooby. No brainer, as you say
And ultimately you'll be driving 60k in a Euro-box, when you could be driving a Scooby. No brainer, as you say
If you're not too bothered about spending pretty much the same amount or more money by having the 2nd car and just want to do it to keep miles off a decent car, then do it, but to have the 2nd car for purely financial reasons is not going to save you much, if any, money really.
23 February 2017 | 05:43 PM
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10K miles per year, there is a fair bit of competition between dealers at the moment (high targets this quarter) so shop around. Best forum to find deal/dealers is www.speakev.com
Range depends on lots of things, most notably size/health of battery, ambient temperature and the speed you drive. In the deepest darkest depths of (southern England) winter I would still be comfortable with getting 100 miles on a full charge with the 30 kWh battery Leaf. There were no 30 kWh cars before December 2015, before that everything was 24 kWh – bank on 80 mile range in winter for a Gen 2 (2013 onwards).
Going 70+ (indicated) eats battery quickly, so most Leafers cruise at 60-65 on motorways if they have a long way to go.
Range depends on lots of things, most notably size/health of battery, ambient temperature and the speed you drive. In the deepest darkest depths of (southern England) winter I would still be comfortable with getting 100 miles on a full charge with the 30 kWh battery Leaf. There were no 30 kWh cars before December 2015, before that everything was 24 kWh – bank on 80 mile range in winter for a Gen 2 (2013 onwards).
Going 70+ (indicated) eats battery quickly, so most Leafers cruise at 60-65 on motorways if they have a long way to go.
I slum it in a Kangoo ZE or an Ion, still cheap as hell to run. The Kangoo is like a limo but no rapid charging
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23 February 2017 | 06:14 PM
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The only way to do it and potentially save a decent amount of money is to buy something super cheap that is in good nick that you can tax and insure cheaply and run into the ground over a few years, doing the absolute minimum of servicing/repairs to get through the next MOT, then rinse and repeat with the next cheapo motor. Even then, you're really not saving much.
If you're not too bothered about spending pretty much the same amount or more money by having the 2nd car and just want to do it to keep miles off a decent car, then do it, but to have the 2nd car for purely financial reasons is not going to save you much, if any, money really.
If you're not too bothered about spending pretty much the same amount or more money by having the 2nd car and just want to do it to keep miles off a decent car, then do it, but to have the 2nd car for purely financial reasons is not going to save you much, if any, money really.
24 February 2017 | 11:42 PM
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Hi mate
You still got your scoob aswell? Last time I heard it was getting mapped? I bet that cupra beats most things on the road
25 February 2017 | 12:05 AM
#42
I have a 99 Classic, I used it on my 95 mile round trip commute for a week and hated it, I actually put it in the garage and didn't drive it for 2 months as it had annoyed me, noisy, harsh ride and no creature comforts plus the £100 fuel bill), now have a 2010 Passat Diesel estate, all the bells and whistles and returns 50mpg all day long (also handy for picking up STI interiors). Now when I jump on the Scoob I appreciate it for what it is, FUN 
03 March 2017 | 03:41 PM
#45
Yeah still got the Scooby. bloody driveshaft broke on mapping day at 1 bar lol. so sorting that and be back in few weeks again.
yeah cupra is mental and actually drives really well. grip in the dry is fantastic with the diff they have in them.
Ryan
03 March 2017 | 07:36 PM
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IV got a great little fez Mk6 zetec s sea grey derv. Half leather, completely standard. £30 a year road tax and cheap to run/insure. In the 3 years iv had it iv only had to do standard maintenance, front coil spring broke on the way back from the farm one night. Not ideal but apart from that that's it. has been a great little run around always loved the mk6 shape. Work for myself now, past 2/3 years so have a van aswel. But we'll not talk about that. It's Italian That's all that needs to be said 