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Old 03 April 2017 | 09:30 PM
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She is so dumb!!
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My late uncle (RIP) had a Docks a bog, back in the 70s.

IIRC he was called........


Jason

(Named after his eldest son...... Which I've literally only just realised! )

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Old 03 April 2017 | 09:57 PM
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Bet the top two have some pace on them!
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
a boxer couldn't fight its way out of a wet tea bag
Just like you, then!

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not the cleverest of things either
OMG, you're actually a boxer dog!

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but beautiful to look at
And that's where the similarities end!

Old 03 April 2017 | 10:40 PM
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Me with our "Dangerous Dog" back in 1982


I'm now a paraplegic and have no left arm.


Seriously though that dog was my best friend, never harmed me or anyone else.

Did scare the living shyte out of some burglers though

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Old 03 April 2017 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
Just like you, then!



OMG, you're actually a boxer dog!



And that's where the similarities end!


Anytime you'd like pal
Old 03 April 2017 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Anytime you'd like pal


Fighting talk from Reggie!

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Originally Posted by Devildog
Watched the video. That ar5ehole "owner" needs to be shot. Those dogs are excited and experiencing high levels of dog arousal - due to their owner's behaviors. Its no surprise they bit two people but its 100% that pr!cks fault.

PS - I'd rather an experienced zookeper walk a bic croc down the highstreet than some retard with a jack russell
Totally agree on the owner in the video

Looks like you have scared Tony off, or he is busy walking the jack russell
Old 04 April 2017 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobypaul_temp
Sound reasoning, you would rather be with a lab that has been trained to be aggressive, than a staffy that hasn't.
That isn't what I said. Read it again.

I said more powerful/aggressive breeds are more risky all things being equal, and owners competency/training is one of those 'all things'.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
That isn't what I said. Read it again.

I said more powerful/aggressive breeds are more risky all things being equal, and owners competency/training is one of those 'all things'.
That isn't what I asked. Read it again

Do you actually think a "staffy/rotty/mastiff/whatever" in the right hands, is more dangerous than a "lab/spaniel/Poodle" in the wrong hands?

How's the Jack Russell doing?
Old 04 April 2017 | 01:27 AM
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on the receiving end no doubt
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60+ percent deaths come from pit bull type and rotties alone
Erm, you still haven't posted proof of the above, so get back under your rock until you do!
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http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-sta...ities-2016.php
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Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
Erm, you still haven't posted proof of the above, so get back under your rock until you do!
Constructive input as always uncle under pants
Old 04 April 2017 | 01:17 PM
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That is US data though.......
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Hi,
What seems to be a common thread in the US stats that you posted and many of the UK cases is that the dogs have often attacked children when the actual owners were not present and the kids were being looked after by grannies, aunts, friends, babysitters etc.
I have been bitten badly by dogs twice in my life - once was my fault and the other was not.
The first bad bite was on my face when I was just three years old and I was cuddling my uncles black Labrador sized mongrel - it turned and badly bit me on the face. Luckily it did not scar (although doctor thought it would). Even to this day my face twitches involuntarily if any dog gets too near it.
The second bite was from a German shepherd being walked by a teenage girl on behalf of the owner. I was about 10 at the time at it bit my **** as I simply walked past it. My parents called the police and we went with them to the owners house to identify the dog. It was totally friendly with me when it was with the owner!
Neither of the above incidents put me off dogs, luckily - and I just got a new one in February this year!
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Originally Posted by steve05wrx
Hi,
What seems to be a common thread in the US stats that you posted and many of the UK cases is that the dogs have often attacked children when the actual owners were not present and the kids were being looked after by grannies, aunts, friends, babysitters etc.
I have been bitten badly by dogs twice in my life - once was my fault and the other was not.
The first bad bite was on my face when I was just three years old and I was cuddling my uncles black Labrador sized mongrel - it turned and badly bit me on the face. Luckily it did not scar (although doctor thought it would). Even to this day my face twitches involuntarily if any dog gets too near it.
The second bite was from a German shepherd being walked by a teenage girl on behalf of the owner. I was about 10 at the time at it bit my **** as I simply walked past it. My parents called the police and we went with them to the owners house to identify the dog. It was totally friendly with me when it was with the owner!
Neither of the above incidents put me off dogs, luckily - and I just got a new one in February this year!
Cheers
Steve
The answer's simple then - ban ownership of all larger and/or potentially aggressive breeds of dogs unless the owner commits to personally supervising them 24/7. Failure to comply resulting in minimum 5-figure fines plus jail time for the owner if the dog gets out of control while in someone else's care, plus of course penalties on the same scale as causing serious or fatal injury through careless or dangerous driving, for the person supposedly in charge of the dog when it got out of control.

Until the problem starts being taken as seriously as above, there will always be a steady supply of muppets owning these animals without taking adequate care and precautions.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Me with our "Dangerous Dog" back in 1982


I'm now a paraplegic and have no left arm.


Seriously though that dog was my best friend, never harmed me or anyone else.

Did scare the living shyte out of some burglers though
Christ mate, Paben will be going apoplectic at that
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Originally Posted by scoobypaul_temp
That is US data though.......
Exactly.

There are no UK stats available. Although reading the US stats, I need to get myself a couple of pit bulls. Rotties are clearly a bit sh!te in comparison at killing americans
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Exactly.

There are no UK stats available. Although reading the US stats, I need to get myself a couple of pit bulls. Rotties are clearly a bit sh!te in comparison at killing americans

So long as its not a pit bull like the one on the Roadkill show (Bika...RIP ); She was probably the laziest and most lethargic dog I have ever seen.


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Old 04 April 2017 | 10:35 PM
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More children are killed by their own relatives each year , than people killed by dogs. In years to come, parents and relatives will be banned, and people will be safe. Ffs.
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The only people who ever moan about dog breeds are the ones who've never spent time with any of them. Purely media based opinions with zero actual experience.
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Time to ban more breeds I'm afraid, and yes knives kill people...

....but we don't let kids play with them either!

The, don't blame the breed blame the owner, phrase doesn't wash anymore as their are so many bad owners out there. Why should children be put in peril for the sake of the few responsible owners who want an animal with a high bite force?
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Looking at this again - there are approximately 90 MILLION dogs in the US:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...es-since-2000/

Of those - there were 31 fatalities in 2016. 31 out of 90 MILLION

22 of which were caused by 'pit bulls'. 22 out of 90 MILLION.

Every human fatality is sad / bad / avoidable, but lets keep some perspective
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Time to ban more breeds I'm afraid, and yes knives kill people...

....but we don't let kids play with them either!

The, don't blame the breed blame the owner, phrase doesn't wash anymore as their are so many bad owners out there. Why should children be put in peril for the sake of the few responsible owners who want an animal with a high bite force?
Now change the breed to 'cars' and owner to 'drivers' - how many children are killed by cars? Shall we ban all cars because of the irresponsible drivers?
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Originally Posted by scoobypaul_temp
That isn't what I asked. Read it again

Do you actually think a "staffy/rotty/mastiff/whatever" in the right hands, is more dangerous than a "lab/spaniel/Poodle" in the wrong hands?

How's the Jack Russell doing?
I think the question is irrelevant since there can be no practical controls on owners' 'competency' but we can ban dogs easily.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I think the question is irrelevant since there can be no practical controls on owners' 'competency' but we can ban dogs easily.
Ohhhh - the question is irrelevant - so we should now ban ALL dogs then?
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my jack Russell loves a bit of scoobynet chatter when dogs are involved lol


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Originally Posted by scoobypaul_temp
Now change the breed to 'cars' and owner to 'drivers' - how many children are killed by cars? Shall we ban all cars because of the irresponsible drivers?
The maximum penalty for causing death by driving without undue care is currently 7 years inside, soon to be increased to 14. The maximum penalties for allowing a dog to get dangerously out of control are trivial in comparison. They need to be increased massively, so that the knuckle-dragging mongs who can't or won't control their dogs are either kept off the streets entirely (along with their dogs), or put off from obtaining them in the first place.



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