harry007

buy brand new with warranty for piece of mind.

ZANY

Leaning much towards a r35 gtr bro as the days go buy to be honest no need to mod just wax

lozgti1

How come Toyota can make an indestructible Land Cruiser and we just can't do it ?

Much like MX5 v MG . No nonsense rock solid car v britshness carp.lol

What is wrong with us ?

wrx300scooby

Do you remember the hilux on tg, it was epic, just kept going!!!

lozgti1

Yep.lol. What a 4x4 should be. Keep going even after you've bombed it. Not grind to a halt at the sight of a pebble stressing it

gazney101

iTrader: (5)

Cutting costs by cutting corners.
Everything is made by the lowest bidder

lozgti1

It's terrible.

We should be making the best. Wouldn't touch one and never heard a good story of the perfect RR that got to 100k without a problem

My old X Trail didn't miss a beat doing 100k .Felt just run in in.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

I don't think it is cost cutting on JLRs, I think it's more of a case of them over-complicating things combined with too much transition of ownership/management part way through a product's development; For example having a chassis designed for an inline six and then later on having to squeeze in a wider "v" engine (Jag XJ40 also suffered the same issue due to transition between BL, BA and Ford).

That said, the steel used for the anti-roll hydraulics pipework on the RRS is very very poor quality. I can only think either wrongly specced steel was used or someone tried to save a few quid.


The Japs also do get it wrong though...Google Navara D40 chassis snapping; Its not as public as it should be, but the chassis on these rust through by the rear leaf spring hangers and split, this has happened on Navaras that are barely three years old! We've condemned a few, one was bought back by Nissan. Yet they still refuse to recall these, even though its clear poor steel/inadequate corrosion protection was used!

hodgy0_2

225K miles




17 years young, still looks good and dives pretty well too (and pretty much trouble free)



regularly driven to the Alps, skiing - with 7 people and all the luggage