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#121
Not taking sides Raggy
But if you have a issue with car , been that
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Fuel
Or air , it won’t ever run correct no matter who maps it ..
I apol if I’ve missed some but did you say it was throwing cel’s up ??
Was that just for lambda???
Or other issues
Have all the Air / vacuum issues been corrected ?
Have the injectors been checked over that were fitted / sorry if I’m asking old questions just trying to grasp why you would feel the map is at fault .
But if you have a issue with car , been that
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Fuel
Or air , it won’t ever run correct no matter who maps it ..
I apol if I’ve missed some but did you say it was throwing cel’s up ??
Was that just for lambda???
Or other issues
Have all the Air / vacuum issues been corrected ?
Have the injectors been checked over that were fitted / sorry if I’m asking old questions just trying to grasp why you would feel the map is at fault .
#122
It would run rich with a boost leak Gary .... !! The hesitation between 2500 and 3000 was due to leanness but it was not lean anywhere else .. 432? maybe the 370 was ft lbs then ... was well over a year ago
Yup sorry about the North definitely should read South thanks for that correction
Yup sorry about the North definitely should read South thanks for that correction
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Murray Motorsport fitted my rads aswell and I have an issue with motors not working
Bob as it’s been well identified I had issues immediately after the first map and continued right up to now
Another map two visits and another plug I. By you and my car is still the same that’s the bottom line
What’s not to get I take the car to you
It’s not right after I take again still not right
So it goes back still not right after 8weeks
Still not right now
Can you please tell me how this is my fault?
It’s about time you and davey do the right thing and resolve the issues with the vehicle or give me my money back
Bob as it’s been well identified I had issues immediately after the first map and continued right up to now
Another map two visits and another plug I. By you and my car is still the same that’s the bottom line
What’s not to get I take the car to you
It’s not right after I take again still not right
So it goes back still not right after 8weeks
Still not right now
Can you please tell me how this is my fault?
It’s about time you and davey do the right thing and resolve the issues with the vehicle or give me my money back
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Your telling me that the Jdm lambda system doesn’t work for an hour on start up? Gtfoh
Thats nonsense , I informed you on two ocaaaions only a oe lambda was used and gave you the part numbers
The last time you said lambda still wasn’t reading we tested it and heater element is working in the sensor
The car is so badly overfueling it’s possible it can’t go into closed loop
You have known about these issues since the lambda failed the first and now your saying the sensor isn’t affecting driveability what a load of crap in that case sure I’ll take the sensor out and throw it away
Thats nonsense , I informed you on two ocaaaions only a oe lambda was used and gave you the part numbers
The last time you said lambda still wasn’t reading we tested it and heater element is working in the sensor
The car is so badly overfueling it’s possible it can’t go into closed loop
You have known about these issues since the lambda failed the first and now your saying the sensor isn’t affecting driveability what a load of crap in that case sure I’ll take the sensor out and throw it away
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We are struggling with the car why wouldn’t we be
When you go outside factory settings in an ecu
Most run of the mill
Mechanics are going to struggle
All emails are showing is you leading us down the garden path asking us to check various things and we have and we are still no further forward
Again is it a crime to email thenmapper. Asking for help you seem to think so
When you go outside factory settings in an ecu
Most run of the mill
Mechanics are going to struggle
All emails are showing is you leading us down the garden path asking us to check various things and we have and we are still no further forward
Again is it a crime to email thenmapper. Asking for help you seem to think so
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Yes he did and said he didn’t know
And he saying the front dead lambda sensor wasn’t an issue for driveability
And he’s saying it takes an hour for the sensor to switch from open to closed loop
And he’s saying that it’s normal to have a horrendous stutter mid throttle after the map
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We are struggling with the car why wouldn’t we be
When you go outside factory settings in an ecu
Most run of the mill
Mechanics are going to struggle
All emails are showing is you leading us down the garden path asking us to check various things and we have and we are still no further forward
Again is it a crime to email thenmapper. Asking for help you seem to think so
When you go outside factory settings in an ecu
Most run of the mill
Mechanics are going to struggle
All emails are showing is you leading us down the garden path asking us to check various things and we have and we are still no further forward
Again is it a crime to email thenmapper. Asking for help you seem to think so
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I mean that’s he’s remapped it tidgy and asked for a million things to be checked and or replaced we done that but what hope does a normal joe soap mechanic have when the fault is with the map
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You see in the emails how I am very respectful I mean when i suggested it may be the map
Ol bob didn’t take too kindly to it at all
And all further correspondence had to speak to him like royalty literally
Bob has quite the ego as is evident from his posts
Ol bob didn’t take too kindly to it at all
And all further correspondence had to speak to him like royalty literally
Bob has quite the ego as is evident from his posts
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Come
On now bob it’s apparant that the car was never right from the moment ye went at it
The car has not covered a total of 500 miles driving in cork since the date of the first map
It will hardly start it’s overfueling like mad
Dash is lit up like an Xmas tree and goes into limp mode almost immediately
Lets not try and blame me after all I just drove the car home after each map it’s hadlt moved as it’s impossible to drive
Let’s do the right thing here and let’s get my car sorted
I think I’ve suffered enough
On now bob it’s apparant that the car was never right from the moment ye went at it
The car has not covered a total of 500 miles driving in cork since the date of the first map
It will hardly start it’s overfueling like mad
Dash is lit up like an Xmas tree and goes into limp mode almost immediately
Lets not try and blame me after all I just drove the car home after each map it’s hadlt moved as it’s impossible to drive
Let’s do the right thing here and let’s get my car sorted
I think I’ve suffered enough
#141
I don't know enough about the jdm ecu to say either way but if I'm being honest id say there was a fault with the car but without being with the car in person its only best guess from my point of view
I normally don't like to get involved in stuff like this mate but iv known bob a long time and consider him a friend and he has helped me out more times than I can remember and my cars wouldn't be where they are without his advice and mapping as like I said I do all my own stuff and the only person I really ask for advice is bob
I won't go into details on a open forum but I know for a fact he isn't in it for money when it comes to mapping my cars
I normally don't like to get involved in stuff like this mate but iv known bob a long time and consider him a friend and he has helped me out more times than I can remember and my cars wouldn't be where they are without his advice and mapping as like I said I do all my own stuff and the only person I really ask for advice is bob
I won't go into details on a open forum but I know for a fact he isn't in it for money when it comes to mapping my cars
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It’s clear for months I been left in the ****
And It was even further evident I was on my own
I initially comment on that thread when that bloke had his car mapped by bob and had the exact same stutter as me between 2.5 and 3k I wasn’t going to comment at first
But then i thought hang on a min have your say Gary
And It was even further evident I was on my own
I initially comment on that thread when that bloke had his car mapped by bob and had the exact same stutter as me between 2.5 and 3k I wasn’t going to comment at first
But then i thought hang on a min have your say Gary
#146
I understand your frustration but for your own sanity and stress levels i would just concentrate on finding the issue and then work out if anybody was at fault.
Have u still got no reading from the front O2 sensor ??
If so have you done a full wiring test from the sensor back to the ecu ?? If all the wiring checks out you can test the signal voltage and check what the ecu is receiving.
It sounds unlikely its directly linked to the mapping as im sure all good mappers (bob included) would double check for any silly mistakes when been called back to look at a suspect map. From reading some of the earlier posts it sounds like your issue has been intermittent which could point at a possible wiring/electrical/ecu/sensor fault.
Have u still got no reading from the front O2 sensor ??
If so have you done a full wiring test from the sensor back to the ecu ?? If all the wiring checks out you can test the signal voltage and check what the ecu is receiving.
It sounds unlikely its directly linked to the mapping as im sure all good mappers (bob included) would double check for any silly mistakes when been called back to look at a suspect map. From reading some of the earlier posts it sounds like your issue has been intermittent which could point at a possible wiring/electrical/ecu/sensor fault.
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#147
If it was me, I'd be taking the car to another mapper. Yes it will cost you another few quid but you will then know where you stand. You've lost all confidence in Bob so there is zero point letting him have another go.
If the next mapper resolves the issue and discovers it's a mapping issue then Bob would have no option but to refund you. If he refused then his name would be **** on here.
On the other hand, if it's found to be something else you can hold your hands up and make an apology on here.
Either way, you want the car sorting, take it elsewhere and get it sorted.
If the next mapper resolves the issue and discovers it's a mapping issue then Bob would have no option but to refund you. If he refused then his name would be **** on here.
On the other hand, if it's found to be something else you can hold your hands up and make an apology on here.
Either way, you want the car sorting, take it elsewhere and get it sorted.
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I understand your frustration but for your own sanity and stress levels i would just concentrate on finding the issue and then work out if anybody was at fault.
Have u still got no reading from the front O2 sensor ??
If so have you done a full wiring test from the sensor back to the ecu ?? If all the wiring checks out you can test the signal voltage and check what the ecu is receiving.
It sounds unlikely its directly linked to the mapping as im sure all good mappers (bob included) would double check for any silly mistakes when been called back to look at a suspect map. From reading some of the earlier posts it sounds like your issue has been intermittent which could point at a possible wiring/electrical/ecu/sensor fault.
Have u still got no reading from the front O2 sensor ??
If so have you done a full wiring test from the sensor back to the ecu ?? If all the wiring checks out you can test the signal voltage and check what the ecu is receiving.
It sounds unlikely its directly linked to the mapping as im sure all good mappers (bob included) would double check for any silly mistakes when been called back to look at a suspect map. From reading some of the earlier posts it sounds like your issue has been intermittent which could point at a possible wiring/electrical/ecu/sensor fault.
Still no reading from the o2 sensor
Checked all wiring from sensor to ecu all okay
Have had a lot of pms and advice from
A lot of decent folk on here willing to help out and offering their services
Need to come up with a plan of action and get the car repaired once and for all
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If it was me, I'd be taking the car to another mapper. Yes it will cost you another few quid but you will then know where you stand. You've lost all confidence in Bob so there is zero point letting him have another go.
If the next mapper resolves the issue and discovers it's a mapping issue then Bob would have no option but to refund you. If he refused then his name would be **** on here.
On the other hand, if it's found to be something else you can hold your hands up and make an apology on here.
Either way, you want the car sorting, take it elsewhere and get it sorted.
If the next mapper resolves the issue and discovers it's a mapping issue then Bob would have no option but to refund you. If he refused then his name would be **** on here.
On the other hand, if it's found to be something else you can hold your hands up and make an apology on here.
Either way, you want the car sorting, take it elsewhere and get it sorted.