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Old 31 October 2017 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Still no reading from the o2 sensor
Checked all wiring from sensor to ecu all okay
Have had a lot of pms and advice from
A lot of decent folk on here willing to help out and offering their services
Need to come up with a plan of action and get the car repaired once and for all
Have you checked the sensor voltage output at the ecu end whilst the car is running to ensure normal parameters are been seen by the ecu. If everything checks out there i would see if you can find somebody capable of testing the circuitry of the ecu.

As i have been unfortunate enough to find out myself, it only takes a bad earth or bad connection after fitting new parts and disturbing something to fry stuff.
Old 31 October 2017 | 09:43 PM
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Which one in picture is Bob? lol
Old 31 October 2017 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bludgod
search for "GR Stumble" theres a few different places sell kits or you can mock up your own with some fuel pipe - but you need to get the map adjusted as well to account for the changes you've mode.

not all cars seem as badly effected as others tho so start with the basics make sure the car is in top condition and working as it should before you go throwing more parts at it.
I've been banging on about this for sometime, trying to get answers in the UK, as I have something very similar on my jdm hatch ; the fpr and dampers cause a stutter which Subaru attempted to compensate for by fiddling with the fuel tables?
Old 31 October 2017 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
I've been banging on about this for sometime, trying to get answers in the UK, as I have something very similar on my jdm hatch ; the fpr and dampers cause a stutter which Subaru attempted to compensate for by fiddling with the fuel tables?
sorry I had meant to post that in the other thread i think your on it there anyway, not sure it's applicable here hence I binned the post.
Old 31 October 2017 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Which one in picture is Bob? lol
the one with hair
Old 31 October 2017 | 10:44 PM
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Really feel for you raggy but on the flip side of it, so glad I got out subaru ownership and did not start another project!
Old 31 October 2017 | 10:47 PM
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gary I have not said the lambda takes an hour to work on a JDM I suggested you drive the car and monitor it for up to an hour to see if it would enable .. there is a difference.

Done a bit of digging .....

Regarding the second map session gary I apologise you did indeed pay £250 for a map tweak and associated travel. On arrival the car was smoke tested and your intercooler pipework was found to be leaking. The problem area had been highlighted to you as a risk at the first session and you had said that Rolly (your mechanic) would sort it out. There was no leak from the map sensor

Given it was impossible to determine when the condition developed a tweak session was necessary to go over it all again and ensure that the car would not be running lean on boost due to improved air flow after the leak was fixed. The risk was that it developed progressively as the figures of 431 bhp and 376 ft lb for the car being a 2 litre were very respectable and not indicative of any thing significant

So you are right about the cost .. but the necessity to do it was due to a car fault as it transpired and nothing to do with anything mapping related.

You are asking for a refund, I have no problem with refunding my mapping costs, just bring the car and I will revert the ecu to the condition it was in beforehand which would be putting the stock Subaru maps back into the car. You will gain from the EcuTek licence as that would stay in the ecu even so. You will have a free choice thereafter.

It seems that the car may still be going into limp mode though so it does have a problem and mapping won’t solve it .. if thats the case the ecu throws fuel in for safety and with your injectors being 1000 cc thats a lot, the limp settings are not mappable so it would be very excessive

You said that a smoke test has been done, might be worth doing again, also, I have found notes that you use NF octane booster as the 95 ron is all thats available in the South to you, if you have not been that consistent in maintaining the proportions of that used at mapping time then you could have problems, too much is as bad as too little, too little could cause the ecu to react enough and send it into limp mode.

have you checked that the connecting pipe between fuel pressure regulator is secure and intact, if not that will cause aver fueling on start and idle plus very lean running on boost

Just some suggestions as always .. you could have sent me another email and asked for further help ...

I am not taking what you have said about me personally as yet Gary, but it is uncalled for and I am allowing for the frustration you are feeling, as has been pointed out its not helping.
Old 31 October 2017 | 10:51 PM
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Lol thanks

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Old 01 November 2017 | 12:51 AM
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Again, get it checked out and find the fault ans fix wether it be by bob/mm or another garage/mapper and find out whos liable with written detailed invoice etc and either pass that onto bob/mm or pay yourself depending on the findings
Old 01 November 2017 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
.. but the necessity to do it was due to a car fault as it transpired and nothing to do with anything mapping related.
In percentage terms, how often are mapping sessions cut short by a car fault?

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Old 01 November 2017 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by daveyboyscooby
Raggy,after reading some of your posts you come accross as a pr1ck.
i bet a few are have a chuckle at this.

karma's a bitch
Is that really your 1st post.

Wonder why anyone would create an account just to say that.......
Old 01 November 2017 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Is that really your 1st post.

Wonder why anyone would create an account just to say that.......
lack of hairy conkers to say it in real life.
Old 01 November 2017 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
lack of hairy conkers to say it in real life.
Yea i have to agree there.

Little mouse *****.

Pull his knuckles off ground to use keyboard.
Old 01 November 2017 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Really feel for you raggy but on the flip side of it, so glad I got out subaru ownership and did not start another project!
Appreciate it banny you always been very helpful to me on here thank you mate
Old 01 November 2017 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Is that really your 1st post.

Wonder why anyone would create an account just to say that.......
Beggars belief
Old 01 November 2017 | 07:19 PM
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Why aren't you taking up Bobs offer (20hrs ago) to put the car back to pre map status???

At least then, you will know for definite if the issue is map related.
Old 01 November 2017 | 07:23 PM
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That’s impossible the way the car currently is running unless bob is willing to travel to me like I asked in the first post we can remove maps I’d be delighted
Old 01 November 2017 | 08:21 PM
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The car is heavily modified is it not....??? Having it put back to a standard map wouldn't solve anything.
Old 01 November 2017 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
I had a terrible experience with Duncan Graham , see

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...hemselves.html

which lead me into the self mapping of the ESL on my version 1.

The problem i find with mappers is they map for full throttle only, ive spent in hrs probably 6 hrs fine tuning my car so its great at all levels, partial throttle, full throttle, cruising etc etc , its all well and good having a car that is great only when you plant the throttle but theres alot of driving that goes on between that stage !

My initial map by the "pro" was about 30 mins and it left the car running worse than when i gave it him, if you read the thread you will see why.

I get not all can self map but if you can id suggest you do

I have witnessed his work in a friends STI The car currently resides in a garage with cracked heads and ring lands.
Old 02 November 2017 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Really feel for you raggy but on the flip side of it, so glad I got out subaru ownership and did not start another project!
+1

Sitting pretty in a Golf Mk1 1.6TD totally refirbed almost everything inside and out bumper to bumper... only got the rear brakes to look at now and get a set of Bilstiens fitted and it'll be like a new car at a fraction of the cost of a Subaru... spent around £500 on it.

Done all the work myself including fueling... got to love a Bosch fuel pump... none of this mapping nonsense required.... ish 110bhp 800kg and more smiles than I've had in 13yrs of Subaru ownership.

Retro is the way forward.

Raggy give up and move on mate... life's too short for all this hassle... My advice to anyone re Subarus... buy it, leave it standard and enjoy it for what it is.

Simple.
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Bit late for leaving it standard ditch lad
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Bit late for leaving it standard ditch lad
Yeah only slightly...

Mind you it's never to late to cash it in and buy something else less frustrating.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster

Sitting pretty in a Golf Mk1 1.6TD....more smiles than I've had in 13yrs of Subaru ownership.
Seen many posts along these lines. With the greatest of respect (genuinely as you clearly still have a lot of knowledge of Scoobs)...why are you still on this forum?
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Sell us yer AP'S if you're breaking Raggy..... Oh, and the Ohlins 😉
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Temping mate I have had the notion of tearing it into a million pieces
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Originally Posted by plenty
Seen many posts along these lines. With the greatest of respect (genuinely as you clearly still have a lot of knowledge of Scoobs)...why are you still on this forum?
Like many ex owners that are still around... the marque has been part of my life for 13yrs so I still have a soft spot for them... I just don't want to own one anymore... rather spend my money on other things... I don't ride horses anymore either but it doesn't stop me liking them along with many other things I now no longer do... life moves on, but it doesn't mean I have to stop looking in here and posting my thoughts and musings.

P.S No one is forcing you to read them.
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Of course and no question you continue to make worthwhile contributions, but I just find it odd that someone would regularly post on a Subaru enthusiasts' forum that they are much happier without a Subaru.

Anyhow let's live and let live, we're all free to express our views here.
Old 02 November 2017 | 08:59 PM
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I have a smile on my face when sitting on the sofa,the buzz of driving a high powered Impreza is in a different league
Especially when mapped right
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Originally Posted by plenty
Of course and no question you continue to make worthwhile contributions, but I just find it odd that someone would regularly post on a Subaru enthusiasts' forum that they are much happier without a Subaru.

Anyhow let's live and let live, we're all free to express our views here.
After 13yrs of ownership I kind of had enough... don't get me wrong I loved all my Subarus but once one lets go on you and you shell out a small fortune... then it lets go again, you're always left with that constant niggling feeling in the back of your mind... is it going to happen again... which then sours the ownership experience.

There's also a lot of sharks around the Subaru scene raping enthusiasts... with little to no comeback when things go wrong.

All of that coupled with the expense of ownership just made me decide it was time to call it quits and go in another direction.

As they say "A change is as good as a rest" ultimately I'm very pleased I did.

Have a look at my Golf MK1 project thread which I'll be up dating and you'll either get it or you won't.
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Very well said ditch a lot of robbers and deceitful people around this game


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