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Old 28 February 2018, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ray54
Have you phoned /called in /used facebook to find the reason why the head-teacher is closing the school?.

If no valid reason is given, take it up with the head/governors and complain.

Storm Amma might be reason?. or maybe there,re just lazy baztards.
It is in anticipation of getting snow well there is no guarantee we will get any so why make the decision so early when we might not even get any. The primary school for example said it will make the decision by 7.30 in the morning which is the sensible thing to do :rolleyes;
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Just had a text from local school is shut until Monday kids already climbing the walls how am i going to cope ?
Put them in play room caravan
Old 01 March 2018, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Great isn't it - I wonder if I can plan the last week in July off due to the possible adverse weather!
Originally Posted by Felix.
Not my or police laws! And you can't seriously suggest that all teachers live out in the country? If they do, they must all be on a nice wage then.

How come every other profession is expected to come in to work? And I can't recall having schools closed due to snow when I was at school.

So, all the teachers have to do is phone in and say "I can't make it in today" and the response is - close the school!

Why don't the teachers just - set off a bit earlier?
Or why can't the school contact local supply teachers to cover? Why can't the headteachers step up and manage?

No - too easy to just close the school. Make the rest of us pay a fortune in emergency child cover.

We will end up with teachers doing the same in the summer when they fancy a bit of time off - Oh wait, they have the summer off anyway.
Originally Posted by Felix.
Yes, may as well just have the week off - why not a fortnight just to make sure all the snow has completely gone.

How can they predict that the teachers might struggle to get into work on Thursday or Friday.

Such as comments above, to be honest, its a worry you can not see them.
May-be thats why you should seek help....



I can only assume being a police officer over the years has made you what you are now, bitter.

The ones a know and talk to will tend to understand what seams best for the cummunity in our area,(believe it or not will help out if possible),you could try that it may relieve some of the bitteress,they NOT will talk down to you, would certainly NOT spout out their offensive comments verbally as you do on a public forum.

You come over as the quintessential policeman that, once in uniform is you are going to be HIS own worse enemy.

(the one we all love to hate).

YOU REALLY ARE IN THE WRONG PROFESSION, OFFENSIVE AND A DISGRACE TO THE PEOPLE YOU SUPPOSABLE SERVE.

I can but hope your superiors suss you out as the bad apple you are......

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Old 01 March 2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by urban
Put them in play room caravan
Cool
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Old 01 March 2018, 11:12 AM
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Felix, I'm unsure if you are on a wind-up, but if you believe what you have written, you really are talking shoite.

I mentioned the cost of agency staff...you then thought they'd be a good idea?

So...on the above ONLY:

1. How would you feel about the school having to lose a teacher to pay for the agency staff they took on to keep your kids in childcare when staff couldn't get in due to road closures etc?

2. Those agency staff don't all live in a building attached to a school awaiting work, you know. THEY would have the SAME travel problems as the teachers...road closures. And guess who closes the roads? Yep...your lot, and the stupid council, who then condemn schools for NOT staying open.

3. On the one hand yoiu say it's about education, yet you then say headteachers should combine classes, etc. THAT would be easy to EDUCATE anyone instead of just babysitting. I mean 60 kids in a lab? or 90 in a classroom? Or maybe a hundred or so in the hall? All gainfully employed? Aye, right.

PS: loved your assertion that you'd be able to deal with recalcitarnt kids.
Not without a van load of coppers, public order fines and locking them up, you wouldn't.
You REALLY ought to give it a try. Go on, ask your bosses if you can shadow a teacher in a comprehensive school for a week. It used to be done...and those doing the shadowing went away chastened.
Old 01 March 2018, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ray54
Such as comments above, to be honest, its a worry you can not see them.
May-be thats why you should seek help....



I can only assume being a police officer over the years has made you what you are now, bitter.

The ones a know and talk to will tend to understand what seams best for the cummunity in our area,(believe it or not will help out if possible),you could try that it may relieve some of the bitteress,they NOT will talk down to you, would certainly NOT spout out their offensive comments verbally as you do on a public forum.

You come over as the quintessential policeman that, once in uniform is you are going to be HIS own worse enemy.

(the one we all love to hate).



I ask again - which comments do you find offensive....?

I am asking the question why do all the schools now feel the need to close - where the other day some shut and others stayed open? I apologise if this seems to be an offensive question, but I am asking the question.

You also state that the reason was for pupil safety as their parents would drive them all to school and they would be safety issues on the roads with children being dropped off at the school's door by parents. I ask the question why does this not appear to be an issue in times of heavy rain when there are just as many parents driving their kids to school. I would also suggest if there is an issue in the snow to this that most of the kids walk to school in any case - and the 'nose to tail' queues would prevent any serious injury in any case. I again apologise if this question appears to be offensive towards you.

Why can they say that we will close the school 'just in case' in areas where not a snowflake has fallen? Again, I don't believe that this question is too offensive for you?

And I do help in he community in times like this, we cleared the compound so we could get the police cars in and out - didn't just shut up shop and say - 'sorry the snow prevents us from going out toady'. Pushing cars to get people going, jump starting them etc etc

Originally Posted by ray54
YOU REALLY ARE IN THE WRONG PROFESSION, OFFENSIVE AND A DISGRACE TO THE PEOPLE YOU SUPPOSABLE SERVE.

I can but hope your superiors suss you out as the bad apple you are......
And can you justify this quote to me....!

Where have i been "OFFENSIVE AND A DISGRACE TO THE PEOPLE I SUPPOSABLE SERVE."
Old 01 March 2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
1. How would you feel about the school having to lose a teacher to pay for the agency staff they took on to keep your kids in childcare when staff couldn't get in due to road closures etc?
They must have a contingency plan/budget for when teachers can't make it in? My kids lose track of how many agency and supply teachers they have every week because their actual teacher is ill, on a course, at a meeting. So why can't this be done for the teachers who can't make it in for snowy weather - and they must be local agency staff to call upon? Is this not a management planning decision for the head to ensure is in place for times of problems?


Originally Posted by alcazar
2. Those agency staff don't all live in a building attached to a school awaiting work, you know. THEY would have the SAME travel problems as the teachers...road closures. And guess who closes the roads? Yep...your lot, and the stupid council, who then condemn schools for NOT staying open.
So what happens when a road is closed for an accident - does the school close, or do the teachers find another way in? How come my bin collection was on time today at 7.00am, so was the post man, the night shift was off on time and the day shift took over as normal, hospital was open as normal - how come these haven't been effected?

Originally Posted by alcazar
3. On the one hand yoiu say it's about education, yet you then say headteachers should combine classes, etc. THAT would be easy to EDUCATE anyone instead of just babysitting. I mean 60 kids in a lab? or 90 in a classroom? Or maybe a hundred or so in the hall? All gainfully employed? Aye, right.
Well, they seem happy to use this method towards Christmas. Good for their education they say having a combination of different views from the other classes. I'm not saying its ideal, but if they can use the method when they want to why not use it now?

And its nothing to do with 'childcare' - its about education.

Originally Posted by alcazar
PS: loved your assertion that you'd be able to deal with recalcitarnt kids.
Not without a van load of coppers, public order fines and locking them up, you wouldn't.
You REALLY ought to give it a try. Go on, ask your bosses if you can shadow a teacher in a comprehensive school for a week. It used to be done...and those doing the shadowing went away chastened.
Yes I do, and I am single crewed sorting jobs out at comprehensive schools and pupil referral units and I can manage quite happily thank you very much.
Old 01 March 2018, 12:27 PM
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head teachers are paranoid about mamby pamby leftie parents suing after jonny falls over in school grounds, thats what its all about H&S. on the news earlier one had banned snowball fights on h&s grounds
Old 01 March 2018, 12:43 PM
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Got love this man, first i had my doubt about him being police, as i have never cross swords with the guy.

BUT!!!! My god he can,t be anything else, he will swear black is white, up is down.
He is in all honestly a perfect 10.

I take my hat off to you sir, you are unbelievable, I,m not fit to polishing your helmet.

The frightening thing is meeting this man if your doing some you should not be doing, personalty i would fess up to bummin the pope.

Now i am writing this because its snowing a bit, so i have my feet up.

Can i just ask why you are here.... i just know i will get the perfect answer..

Do put me in my place...again sorry ..i,ve just read your single crewed ...does that not tell you something.....

...

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Old 01 March 2018, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ray54
Got love this man.......
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I take it you can't answer my questions then.

I'm here to discuss the subject, which you appear to be unable to do.
Old 01 March 2018, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
I take it you can't answer my questions then.

I'm here to discuss the subject, which you appear to be unable to do.

You have me there Felix, I can,t you are to good for me!!.

I just wish i had found you earlier!, i will of coarse be book-marking you, incase i need you and your knowledge for furture reference.

You Felix are a goldmine. Stay save i,m a bit concerned your single crew..

I dare say the padded walls will keep you from harm...
Old 01 March 2018, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ray54

You Felix are a goldmine. Stay save i,m a bit concerned your single crew..

I dare say the padded walls will keep you from harm...
I take it you mean - "You Felix are a goldmine. Stay safe I'm a bit concerned you're single crewed."

Your English class must have been another of the cancellations due to inclement weather. I think you will find most of us are single crewed now in any case.

And padded walls..?
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single crewed means your word against thiers unless fitted with camera NICE
Old 01 March 2018, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
I take it you mean - "You Felix are a goldmine. Stay safe I'm a bit concerned you're single crewed."

Your English class must have been another of the cancellations due to inclement weather. I think you will find most of us are single crewed now in any case.

And padded walls..?
See what i meen, you have me again, fare cop. your a cretin (sorry speeling again) ,credit to the force.

I,m out of here before i end up in a padded cell, or any other kind you have lined up..............for me.
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Originally Posted by madscoob
single crewed means your word against thiers unless fitted with camera NICE

WORD.... thats the last thing you would get in with Felix.

and its theirs don,t you no anything.............
Old 01 March 2018, 04:19 PM
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So I take it he can't answer any of the questions I asked.

Probably he's best out of here then.
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Originally Posted by Felix.
So I take it he can't answer any of the questions I asked.

Probably he's best out of here then.
You're just not worth the efort you narrowminded fool.
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Originally Posted by ray54
WORD.... thats the last thing you would get in with Felix.

and its theirs don,t you no anything.............
Opps!!!!

and it's 'theirs'. Don't you know anything?

Careful when critisising other peoples spelling or grammer.

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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
Opps!!!!

and it's 'theirs'. Don't you know anything?

Careful when critisising other peoples spelling or grammer.
Didn't you mean oops
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Originally Posted by wrx300scooby
You're just not worth the effort you narrowminded fool.
Phew to right.......

Going to try to open tomorrow, should be fun, snow tyres fitted to scoob, picking up some of the teachers, who live further out of town.

Found a guy willing to clear access road /car park, with snow plough on his Defender, for drink (him not the landy)........ there really is some good people about.

So up and out early to clear paths, scronged a few bags of grit to help out,as the locals have emtpted out our grit bin.

Will do what can to get the children in/out safely, no lazy baztasds hear...............but i have a feeling..............................purina
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Originally Posted by wrx300scooby
Didn't you mean oops
I'm glad you spotted that.I was just testing.


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Originally Posted by wrx300scooby
Didn't you mean oops

that will teach you...

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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
I'm glad you spotted that.I was just testing.


No problem
Old 01 March 2018, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ray54
Phew to right.......

Going to try to open tomorrow, should be fun, snow tyres fitted to scoob, picking up some of the teachers, who live further out of town.

Found a guy willing to clear access road /car park, with snow plough on his Defender, for drink (him not the landy)........ there really is some good people about.

So up and out early to clear paths, scronged a few bags of grit to help out,as the locals have emtpted out our grit bin.

Will do what can to get the children in/out safely, no lazy baztasds hear...............but i have a feeling..............................purina
So you've gone totally against your original argument in post #34

Back to work - well done
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Originally Posted by Felix.
So you've gone totally against your original argument in post #34

Back to work - well done
Nope did,nt happen, we spent 5/6 hours clearing snow and gritting, paths, staff car park, parents car park and drop off points to no avail ,

Even with help from NHS sevices who were clearing local doctors surgery
car park.

We did get a well done for our sterling efforts, on our social media page,so at least it should be back to normal come monday...if we get no more snow.

On more sour note, As we all sat drinking coffee and planning for Monday (should) we get more snow!!!.

I happen mention some of your comments on how schools go about their procedures in these conditions and indeed showed them your posts, to say there was an eruption of shock to most of your posts would be an under statement!!!!!.

As these derogatory comments were coming from a Professional serving police officer!.

I would like bring your comments to the attention of a senior officer, so he/she may offer a statement, as to if said comments are expectable.

Would you be willing to sent me the relative details?.

Thank you

in antiicpation.
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lucky i never went to work thursday and friday, your mates would have had a van to add to thier collection of stranded cars on the a30 haldon hill
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Originally Posted by ray54
Nope did,nt happen, we spent 5/6 hours clearing snow and gritting, paths, staff car park, parents car park and drop off points to no avail ,

Even with help from NHS sevices who were clearing local doctors surgery
car park.

We did get a well done for our sterling efforts, on our social media page,so at least it should be back to normal come monday...if we get no more snow.

On more sour note, As we all sat drinking coffee and planning for Monday (should) we get more snow!!!.

I happen mention some of your comments on how schools go about their procedures in these conditions and indeed showed them your posts, to say there was an eruption of shock to most of your posts would be an under statement!!!!!.

As these derogatory comments were coming from a Professional serving police officer!.

I would like bring your comments to the attention of a senior officer, so he/she may offer a statement, as to if said comments are expectable.

Would you be willing to sent me the relative details?.

Thank you

in antiicpation.
wtf? that's a bit over-dramatic and a bit of a d1ck move.

I can't see anything offensive?

Schools didn't seem to close so often for snow when I was a kid.

What's wrong with being p1ssed about the complete lack of consistency and what seems to be double standards with regards when kids can and cannot be out of school? Worth questioning, even if nowadays in some cases it might be better to not have some people out on the roads taking their kids to school as the parents are a safety hazard at the best of times.
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double standards YES plod tell us not to travel then moan schools are closed,
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Originally Posted by madscoob
double standards YES plod tell us not to travel then moan schools are closed,
Is the whole of the UK being told that it's not safe to travel? I thought that red alert was only in some areas?
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
Is the whole of the UK being told that it's not safe to travel? I thought that red alert was only in some areas?
no but i headed the weather warnings and didnt go to work, if i had i would of been stuck on the a30 or a361 both of which where closed thursday before close of work, he seems to forget times have moved on teachers travel now, my kids teachers 3 of them live in okehampton and work in barnstaple and lots of people travel miles to get a better school for thier kids


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