I joined the linkg4 forum and sure enough I had someone respectable answer my questions and the bonus was he was only 30miles from me , I can usually get an answer from him in a couple of days with a apology for taking so long .
He spent 4 hrs mapping my car with me sat in the passenger seat he managed to get an extra 40hp and 60ftlbs and worked hard on the off boost fueling , this all occurred after Duncan Graham told me there was nothing else to come from the motor .
Duncan has previously mapped the car five times so I pulled him on it via text message and told him the facts .
1/ you didn't enable Knock control on the Link
2/you mapped it around a lambda sensor fault
3/you didn't do anything with the 4d fuel tables
4/you left 2 cylinders running lean.

Now ill tell you what he said in reply " Who is this?"
I said if you had stored my number you would know

 

Pretty much sums up my experience with Bob Rawle
and refused me s refund as well
800 pound he was paid
and the car drove exactly the way you describe

 

He isn’t called dynamite 🧨 Duncan for nothing

 

Yes but people still go to him.
I have to apologise I don't usually post on here as my post count will testify but ive been following this thread for acouple of days now and the rage has been slowly building …. and after a couple of Peroni's ……. im prepared to let it rip.

 

Not one mapper contributes any thing constructive on the forum anymore

 

That's because they are terrified their lazy ways will be exposed in regards to slap dash mapping and terrible customer service.

 

I was threatened with legal action if I didn’t shut my mouth
the absolute cheek of him

 

I have been following your problems with Bob for sometime , I have no experience with him so I cant comment on him but I can say I wouldn't use him on the strength of your opinion and I gather other people have as well .
So to sum up you have dented his wallet somewhat .
A case like this would be very difficult to prove either way.

 

or is it a case of they can't be bothered to argue with people have the whole sum of experiance of 1 car?

experiance comes from doing hundreds of cars with different mod specs, standard, faults etc and do you really think a diy'er can rival that knowledge?

If someone does then they should go have a conversation with Pat, you'll soon realise how small your knowledge actualy is.

 

but becuase your a DIY'er you bodge it.

or am i prsuming all diy'ers are the same with that statement

 

I very much doubt even Pat will spend an hour or less on a fresh remap,despite all his many many non DIY'er file stored in his database.
Base maps are easy,the rest isn't......especially for a DIY'er who tunes for fun and to learn how his own car/S run.......#stilltweakingtwoyearslater PMSL

 

Depends, iirc he said had one he did in 30 mins, put file on from similar car and it was pretty much bang on, coupe of fine tunes and sorted, bear in mind that doesnt include road test, strapping it down etc. but he said thats happened once in 1000+ cars, so while possible, it's highly unlikey.

 

so you have no experience but are happy to listen to one keyboard warrior lol ,, bob was one of the sponsors for the forum I run and has mapped a 100s of its members without a problem and there was endless threads on there saying how happy people are,,,, so just because one person is good with a keyboard on here doesn't make it true ,,, bob has done me so many favours over the years I couldn't count them this includes mapping a couple of my cars for nothing when times got hard and helping my friends out based on me asking him for a favour ,, I couldn't see any other mappers doing the same,, bob maps cars he isnt there to fix them when they turn up with problems

 

I cant understand how you drove the car away jerking and what not .It should be noticeable right away as soon as its mapped

If its developed over a few days then something was on its way out .

Thats tthe problem with the car trade .once you touch a car you own it.

 

Did you ask him about the jdm hatch that blew up a few hours after mapping it?
only what 6-8 weeks back
I know first hand because the man who owns the car contacted me on Facebook after reading my last thread on here
his car was down at chevron and had a filter decat and a bob the bomb special map on it
before you blame the mans car being riddled with faults it was a fresh import only weeks before he had it mapped

 

Told me the front lambda had conviently failed at the end of the mapping seasion
never told me despite two new genuine oe sensors it would never work again

 

His spokesman Steve Davies there apologised to me last week
yet today I’m one man with a keyboard spouting nonsense
which is it ?

 

If my car was we troubled with so many faults
why did he not spot one single fault on the car
why didn’t he refuse to map it
surley if the car was so bad he would of seen something on the live data ?
no he took my 550 pound and sent me on my merry way
with an old wife’s tale of a sensor not working

 

Unfortunately it is only very seldom noticeable straight away. When the map is loaded onto the car, the ECU is reset. It takes a good few miles for the ECU to re-learn and adjust its values and that’s when the problem becomes noticeable. There is an easy way to figure out if the crap new map caused the problem or not, by flashing the original (pre-tweak) map back on. If it is a hardware/mechanical problem, it would become obvious straight away. Why does no mapper ever offer that backtrack option?
Also, what basic qualification/ degrees do these people have anyway? In engineering? Electronics maybe? Electrical systems? Computer systems? Nothing at all? Does anyone know of the qualifications of their favourite mapper other than “he has been mapping cars since the Victorian era”?
The real problem with the car trade is the sheer incompetence and total absence of honesty and accountability to be fair.

 

Tbh we will never know, if he was so crap then he have hubdreds of failed cars following him round .

Ive heard stories of people fitting turbos, down pipes then driving cars a few days/weeks then they map and blow and its the mappers fault.

Like that jdm hatch dont they use like 101 ron, if its been being ragged about for 3 weeks on asdas finest it will pop. But like i say we will never know

 

Is there a degree in remapping these days?

As for the car trade you find someone you trust and stick with them, ive know numerous ****e main dealers . Sadly.

 

100% not

DET....ECU pulls timing.......DET.......ECU pulls timing......DET...ECU pull even more timing.....DET....Car starts driving like sh1te.....DET..........BOOM!
And that's just one part of the tune.

 

Told the punter is made 386 bhp too
How do we know that there aren’t a lot of failures
people are terrified to speak up
And this site isn’t exactly buzzing
a lot of people don’t use the site
who do you use for mapping ?

 

OS mapping maybe

 

I think what hatch 08 means is
he should of some sort of motor vehicle qualifications
the bloke up at Murray motorsport is a carpenter by trade

 

100 percent
jdm hatch owners are al to.blame

 

So, without any particular relevant qualifications (other than possibly a “seminar” by the software developer), what exactly is the difference between a self-called mapper and a DIY enthusiast?
When I was talking about “car trade”, I meant main dealers, independents, chains, outlets, part shops etc.
There is no accountability, no responsibility and no honesty whatsoever.

 

A million percent agree
most don’t even have a premises
into the car or on a plane and **** off when problems
arise
a lot of these jobs cash in the hand
if it were any other trade you’d have rouge traders involved

 

Which makes you wonder sometimes if you should report the little bugger to the HMRC. Especially when they threaten you with legal action on top of everything else.

 

The degree in mapping was a genuine question, most mappers ive know have been self taught, and ive know guys from the ones who rock up and dl a generic map, to live mappers to the guys who write the software.

I use andrew carr for my subarus.

My vag stuff custom code

There has to be some accountability, but its where the line is drawn, we have customers come in from being rear ended and now their brakes squeel etc. If its directly related fair do but its not a free for all,

The jdm hatch im playing devils advocate, thats all. Why people would be scared to come forward id id ne know, now more than ever with the damage that could be done with social media, just look at the scooby clinic road test