ZANY

superb i never go up anybody’s bum dashcams are Defo the way forward indeed as I have noticed in the Subaru much more less ***** especially in front of me 👌

ZANY

this was the idiot in the Peugeot and he was in the fackin phone doing 60 in the middle lane then decided to put his foot down 😢

ZANY

UI am definitely investing in 2 more dash cams that have gps etc as this is very effective one for the Citroen and the golf so it can tell the speed I or the dragon are doing and the rest if anyth8ng happens there is proof

I’ve noticed in the Subaru the cars in front start driving properly

to me my kids and mrs means the world and the last few weeks have been a nightmare on the motorway didn’t realise it was soo facked

Dashcams is the way forward for sure

ive found the best drivers that have consideration are working van drivers with company names and branded etc if you know what I mean always allowing to come in lane or overtaking without any speed up issues from experience

i just dont don’t understand why would you put your foot down all of a sudden when being overtaken from the fast lane wen your hogging the middle lane doing 60mph ffs😡

i wish I had a dashcam in the Citroen mobility van showing speed etc I would have shown you folks the ***** that are out there that I’ve come across last few weeks WOW the world has changed no consideration 😢

time to go for some shopping therapy gonna ring MAXTON in the morning

thanks for all the input so far folks much appreciated 🙏 I really thought it was just me for a little while before I seen other incidents right in front of my eyes thinking wow wtf!!

WRXrowdy

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funnily enough this was a Peugeot as well.

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Its holiday season and you find a lot more idiots (or in-experienced drivers) out on the motorways. The majority of the time I can't be bothered to wait for them to realise that they're in the wrong lane to which they feel some form of entitlement, so I just undertake them. Its not illegal and can be done perfectly safely (like using the inside lane when they're on the outside lane ). Just not worth hanging around to make an issue of it.

ZANY

i always have thought genuinely undertaking is dangerous and also illegal hence the third lane if legal it’ll be much easier as the first lane is near enough empty when going home from Liverpool ?

if it’s legal all is jolly well

andy97

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In the strictest sense, it is illegal.

However if you're travelling on the inside lane and the other two lanes slow for whatever reason then its allowed to continue within the speed limit, passing the slower vehicles on the inside

. What's not allowed to zigzag in/out of the nearside lanes to undertake vehicles travelling at or around the speed limit. If you get caught doing the latter, prosecution is coming your way.

Normally when a slow middle lane driver is under-taken, it wakes them up and they invariably move to the inside shortly after.

ZANY

Thanks 5hat is useful and as I had thought

BMWhere?

On non-motorways rule 163 of the highway code is applicable:
On motorways rule 268 of the highway code is applicable:
So basically, you can only "overtake" on the left if you're in a traffic jam and the lane you're in happens to be moving more quickly than the lane to the right or on a dual carriageway when someone is indicating to turn right. Undertaking a middle lane hogger on a quiet motorway is not allowed. Personally, I find pulling out to lane 3 then immediately back to lane 1 also does a good job of waking up the lane hogger.

Since 2013 it is an offence (careless driving) to lane hog as detailed by rule 264 of the highway code:

ZANY

superb info

Puff The Magic Wagon!

iTrader: (2)

The above is guidance but there is no actual offence of undertaking. Depending on the circumstances and how it is implemented, then you stand the risk of being prosecuted for driving without due care and attention or even dangerous driving. It is not strictly against the law to undertake, much like it is not "against the law" to filter on a motorcycle but there's nothing to say it is legal either. Do so at your own risk and cognisance.

Things like 45 in the 50 through the M4 roadworks in the outside lane, then I'll read the road and put myself in the middle or inner and stay there until I need to pull out again, whilst I undertake them. They are either too gormless or too self-righteous to move Its not aggressive and if the person in the outside is just not going to move, then I see no issue if its done safely.

Same when trundling around the M25, anyone in the 3rd or 4th lane on an empty motorway, then I'm more than happy to stay in the inside lane to undertake them rather than manoeuvre to the outside to overtake some dweeb.

Seriously doubt I'd be done for anything under either of those two circumstances.

IdonthaveaScooby

Another way to get the message across

Would be to take in several anti clockwise “circles”

round the offender

hedgecutter

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Zany, Peugeot and Citroen vans are the same, made in a shared factory.

ZANY

yes five years of misery mate went for the free option were I didn’t need to pay extra

I’ve put the extra cash on top this year and gone for a transit 😁
they wanted £14,000 if I wanted a vw caravelle 😢

only £6k for the transit which includes all adaptations gonna keep it after 5years so a Ford it is fack vw

ZANY

imagine if he’s faster than you then what ☹️