WTF is Trump doing - re-election and USPS scandal
#91
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The building is the home of democracy and its been stormed by people who simply didnt like the result
What a message to send to the rest of the world ...
What a message to send to the rest of the world ...
#92
Antifa and blm do it to peoples homes and its protest. Trump supports attack political buildings and its rioting.
Not that either is acceptable, just find if Interesting how the press are framing it.
Riots hve been going on for months already. Question is what happens next, If the dems crak down on the trump supports it is going to get 10 times worse. Right now it needs de-escation, not doubling down as thay will only fan the flames.
Not that either is acceptable, just find if Interesting how the press are framing it.
Riots hve been going on for months already. Question is what happens next, If the dems crak down on the trump supports it is going to get 10 times worse. Right now it needs de-escation, not doubling down as thay will only fan the flames.
However, that could lead to Pence pardoning him
Last edited by Mr Fuji; 07 January 2021 at 11:39 AM.
#93
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Rioting or protesting is semantic at this point we all saw what happened, although i would say a riot involves a large number of people so it's correctly described in my opinion.
I would also describe it as a manipulation of some very easily led people. As for those Senators who sided with them, they must be expelled.
#94
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You are correct in so much as both are wrong, but the leader of the country should not instigate either, and he did instigate one! Time for the 25th, methinks.
However, that could lead to Pence pardoning him
However, that could lead to Pence pardoning him
#95
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There is a tremendous amount of double standards being applied, most notably the very correct observation that if this were BLM protestors doing what happened yesterday, there would be a lot more dead and they never would have got in.
Rioting or protesting is semantic at this point we all saw what happened, although i would say a riot involves a large number of people so it's correctly described in my opinion.
I would also describe it as a manipulation of some very easily led people. As for those Senators who sided with them, they must be expelled.
Rioting or protesting is semantic at this point we all saw what happened, although i would say a riot involves a large number of people so it's correctly described in my opinion.
I would also describe it as a manipulation of some very easily led people. As for those Senators who sided with them, they must be expelled.
#96
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60 judges over ruled / quashed Trump calls for rigged election
not even a handful came up with anything
but apparently theyre all bent too
not even a handful came up with anything
but apparently theyre all bent too
#98
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Trump aside, can anyone tell me why various folk (politicians, pundits, AWFL/Beckys, opinionists etc.) want a president to leave before inauguration day?
AFAIK in modern history the outgoing president always leaves on Inauguration day and the next one is sworn in. Well, that was the case with Clinton, Bush, Obama etc. at least.
AFAIK in modern history the outgoing president always leaves on Inauguration day and the next one is sworn in. Well, that was the case with Clinton, Bush, Obama etc. at least.
#99
There will be a president. They just think it should not be Trump between now and inauguration. And, to be honest, any sane person can see why they do not want him at the helm. He is completely unstable.
#102
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Trump aside, can anyone tell me why various folk (politicians, pundits, AWFL/Beckys, opinionists etc.) want a president to leave before inauguration day?
AFAIK in modern history the outgoing president always leaves on Inauguration day and the next one is sworn in. Well, that was the case with Clinton, Bush, Obama etc. at least.
AFAIK in modern history the outgoing president always leaves on Inauguration day and the next one is sworn in. Well, that was the case with Clinton, Bush, Obama etc. at least.
#103
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Trumps official team only launched 3 and none of them saw a court to judge merits, they were refused in procedural grounds.
There is evidence of some fraud, question is how wide spread was it?
#104
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If your saying that you havnt looked into the whole situation beyond the main stream media.
#105
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Produce a list then !
Notwithstanding that there is always a very small amount of fraud
But enough to constitute a conspiracy
Last edited by IdonthaveaScooby; 08 January 2021 at 04:27 PM.
#106
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Rudy didn't even alledge fraud when he got to court, their star witness was clearly drunk or on pills when trying to alledge wrongdoing.
Dominion are coming after Sidney Powell, probably Trump aswell.
Many republicans won seats in this same election, they don't want those tossed out.
Donald should stick to golfing and being a TV host, in my opinion he was in the presidency for self gratification primarily and that's not what's needed to do the job well.
I very much doubt we will see him hanging around for 4 years trying to make america great again when he has no one to bark at.
Dominion are coming after Sidney Powell, probably Trump aswell.
Many republicans won seats in this same election, they don't want those tossed out.
Donald should stick to golfing and being a TV host, in my opinion he was in the presidency for self gratification primarily and that's not what's needed to do the job well.
I very much doubt we will see him hanging around for 4 years trying to make america great again when he has no one to bark at.
Last edited by matt-c; 08 January 2021 at 05:31 PM.
#107
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Some of it is anecdotal but some is very sketch indeed. All i'm saying is there is enough evidence that if it was here i would want it looked into properly to confirm one way or the other.
#108
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As far as election fraud goes, again, using critical thinking: it would take a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people to pull it off. Not one whistle blower. Not one shred of evidence (yes, I've studied the videos of suitcases under the table and all the other "evidence"). Trump planted the fraud seed some time ago, it grew on social media in the echo chamber, and was an oven ready solution to losing the election.
#109
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It's the far right news outlets and social media that have been fanning the flames. I spend probably too much time on right wing sites like Breitbart reading the comments sections - good luck with expecting reasonable discourse. There is a complete lack of critical thinking in Trump's base, they believe anything he says, and every conspiracy theory. They really believe that all Democrat voters are their enemy, are evil, hate America, want to kill babies, and are communists. If you try and have reasonable discourse with them, they call you a commie (at best) and block you. It's a cult of fascism, if you use your own critical thinking you'll realise this. We don't all rely on mainstream media for our world view. Everything that Trump has been manipulating is straight out of Mussolini and the ***** play book.
As far as election fraud goes, again, using critical thinking: it would take a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people to pull it off. Not one whistle blower. Not one shred of evidence (yes, I've studied the videos of suitcases under the table and all the other "evidence"). Trump planted the fraud seed some time ago, it grew on social media in the echo chamber, and was an oven ready solution to losing the election.
As far as election fraud goes, again, using critical thinking: it would take a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people to pull it off. Not one whistle blower. Not one shred of evidence (yes, I've studied the videos of suitcases under the table and all the other "evidence"). Trump planted the fraud seed some time ago, it grew on social media in the echo chamber, and was an oven ready solution to losing the election.
#110
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Remember Trump was claiming fraud in the 2016 election because he lost the popular vote, although he was blaming 3-5 million "illegals" then, rather than the Dems creating non existent votes. If there was fraud, the Dems would have been gunning for the down ballot republican candidates, creating a blue wave. And if election fraud was expected, why did Trump do nothing to prevent it? Why did he dismantle his own voter fraud commission?
#111
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Its only the crazies that believe the right wing propaganda and are all too eager for extreme action.
#113
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobil.../idUSKBN2861TB
hope Sidney Powell has the 1.3 billion in her bank account
hope Sidney Powell has the 1.3 billion in her bank account
Last edited by IdonthaveaScooby; 09 January 2021 at 08:12 AM.
#116
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You see how you went straight to discrediting by saying 'rabid pro-trump supports? does that mean we should label you a far lestist lunatic? You see how your going straight down the polarised route that prevails in current media and social media which has caused the situation in the first place. Just because someone disagree's with what you are saying doesn't mean they are bad people or have some nasty intentions.
#117
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I agree, the second it goes to violence or property destruction (for want of a better term) you cross the line.
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#120
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if you really think All have been looked into then your not truley understandiung the situation.
You see how you went straight to discrediting by saying 'rabid pro-trump supports? does that mean we should label you a far lestist lunatic? You see how your going straight down the polarised route that prevails in current media and social media which has caused the situation in the first place. Just because someone disagree's with what you are saying doesn't mean they are bad people or have some nasty intentions.
You see how you went straight to discrediting by saying 'rabid pro-trump supports? does that mean we should label you a far lestist lunatic? You see how your going straight down the polarised route that prevails in current media and social media which has caused the situation in the first place. Just because someone disagree's with what you are saying doesn't mean they are bad people or have some nasty intentions.