IdonthaveaScooby

The building is the home of democracy and its been stormed by people who simply didnt like the result

What a message to send to the rest of the world ...

Mr Fuji

You are correct in so much as both are wrong, but the leader of the country should not instigate either, and he did instigate one! Time for the 25th, methinks.

However, that could lead to Pence pardoning him

matt-c

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There is a tremendous amount of double standards being applied, most notably the very correct observation that if this were BLM protestors doing what happened yesterday, there would be a lot more dead and they never would have got in.

Rioting or protesting is semantic at this point we all saw what happened, although i would say a riot involves a large number of people so it's correctly described in my opinion.

I would also describe it as a manipulation of some very easily led people. As for those Senators who sided with them, they must be expelled.

Tidgy

Actualy its the other way round. The biden brigade were funding lawyers for blm and antifa

Tidgy

On thay note then biden and Harris should be out. For reasons I said above

IdonthaveaScooby

60 judges over ruled / quashed Trump calls for rigged election

not even a handful came up with anything


but apparently theyre all bent too

ALi-B

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I guess it's a pity that the Brexit referendum result didn't trigger protests like that..eh? A lot of people didn't like that result either.

ALi-B

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Trump aside, can anyone tell me why various folk (politicians, pundits, AWFL/Beckys, opinionists etc.) want a president to leave before inauguration day?


AFAIK in modern history the outgoing president always leaves on Inauguration day and the next one is sworn in. Well, that was the case with Clinton, Bush, Obama etc. at least.

mrtheedge2u2

There will be a president. They just think it should not be Trump between now and inauguration. And, to be honest, any sane person can see why they do not want him at the helm. He is completely unstable.

IdonthaveaScooby

The "president" whoever it may be should Not be allowed a social media account imo , just look at the chaos its created

matt-c

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Totally agree, should just be the @POTUS account, which anyway should be curated and managed by the office, not the President directly.

Tidgy

Because politics in the US has become totaly polarised. The main stream media has been fanning the flames for many years and alpt of people have had enough of the whole democrat 'trump bad, stuff America' narrative, rather that reasonable discourse.

Tidgy

Actualy no they didn't.

Trumps official team only launched 3 and none of them saw a court to judge merits, they were refused in procedural grounds.

There is evidence of some fraud, question is how wide spread was it?

Tidgy

If your saying that you havnt looked into the whole situation beyond the main stream media.

IdonthaveaScooby

Produce a list then !

Notwithstanding that there is always a very small amount of fraud

But enough to constitute a conspiracy

matt-c

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Rudy didn't even alledge fraud when he got to court, their star witness was clearly drunk or on pills when trying to alledge wrongdoing.

Dominion are coming after Sidney Powell, probably Trump aswell.

Many republicans won seats in this same election, they don't want those tossed out.

Donald should stick to golfing and being a TV host, in my opinion he was in the presidency for self gratification primarily and that's not what's needed to do the job well.
I very much doubt we will see him hanging around for 4 years trying to make america great again when he has no one to bark at.

Tidgy

https://hereistheevidence.com/


Some of it is anecdotal but some is very sketch indeed. All i'm saying is there is enough evidence that if it was here i would want it looked into properly to confirm one way or the other.

Sad Weevil

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It's the far right news outlets and social media that have been fanning the flames. I spend probably too much time on right wing sites like Breitbart reading the comments sections - good luck with expecting reasonable discourse. There is a complete lack of critical thinking in Trump's base, they believe anything he says, and every conspiracy theory. They really believe that all Democrat voters are their enemy, are evil, hate America, want to kill babies, and are communists. If you try and have reasonable discourse with them, they call you a commie (at best) and block you. It's a cult of fascism, if you use your own critical thinking you'll realise this. We don't all rely on mainstream media for our world view. Everything that Trump has been manipulating is straight out of Mussolini and the ***** play book.
As far as election fraud goes, again, using critical thinking: it would take a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people to pull it off. Not one whistle blower. Not one shred of evidence (yes, I've studied the videos of suitcases under the table and all the other "evidence"). Trump planted the fraud seed some time ago, it grew on social media in the echo chamber, and was an oven ready solution to losing the election.

Tidgy

It's more than just a few suitcases or a planted seed from twitter, go and look at the info on the link i put on the post above. As said some is anecdotal, some is witness statements (some from sorn in people appearing at heardings) and other evidence.

Sad Weevil

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Seen it already, and many others like it too. I'm not convinced. A lot of the sworn affidavits were by people who witnessed perfectly normal behaviour, they just didn't understand how the count procedure works.
Remember Trump was claiming fraud in the 2016 election because he lost the popular vote, although he was blaming 3-5 million "illegals" then, rather than the Dems creating non existent votes. If there was fraud, the Dems would have been gunning for the down ballot republican candidates, creating a blue wave. And if election fraud was expected, why did Trump do nothing to prevent it? Why did he dismantle his own voter fraud commission?

BMWhere?

It might have done if the result went the other way!
Its only the crazies that believe the right wing propaganda and are all too eager for extreme action.

lockheed

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He wont be spouting any more crap on twitter as they have banned him 🤣

IdonthaveaScooby

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobil.../idUSKBN2861TB


hope Sidney Powell has the 1.3 billion in her bank account

markjmd

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The key thing you (and the rabid pro-Trumpers) seem to be failing to grasp is that ALL of these allegations have been investigated in extensive detail, and have been found to be completely without foundation.

markjmd

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Had anti-Brexit protesters tried and/or succeeded in forcing their way into the House of Parliament and begun trashing the place, they would no longer have been protesters, but rioters. Just sayin'

Tidgy

if you really think All have been looked into then your not truley understandiung the situation.

You see how you went straight to discrediting by saying 'rabid pro-trump supports? does that mean we should label you a far lestist lunatic? You see how your going straight down the polarised route that prevails in current media and social media which has caused the situation in the first place. Just because someone disagree's with what you are saying doesn't mean they are bad people or have some nasty intentions.

Tidgy

I agree, the second it goes to violence or property destruction (for want of a better term) you cross the line.

silver-sub

Some scary footage.

IdonthaveaScooby

The percieved threat to pence must have finished trump forever

markjmd

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If you seriously believe that if after more than two months since the election, we wouldn't have heard everything there is to know about any credible theory that might actually hold water, then you're the one who isn't truly understanding the situation.