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Old 08 December 2020, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Only examples like your pictures of multiple up pipes.
No, i am asking what do you think the 8cm is ?

If u think it affects the wheel sizes smh.

Do you think a 10cm housing is for a 100mm wheel haha

You could fit whatever sized housing you like to an SC42 out of 7cm,8cm & 10cm.

The troll is strong in this one lads hahaha

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Originally Posted by 1509joe
I know exactly what you mean but it has alot to do with frame size too.
I know exactly what you mean.......

It really doesn't sound like you do hahah
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I did and there booked up well into the new year. However i am dropping the car off at CAMS on Saturday for fettle and remap . So fingers crossed they will sort it
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The sc42 plus will make 450 plus as joe said
but at the expense of low end power
my jdm has zero below 4K
the turbo is not suitable to a 2 litre car in the real world the car is horrible to drive on the road
It’s dreadfully bad shocking to drive we’re I face a dilemma remove the sc42 for a more modern turbo one that will do similar better with much better spool
Or more engine cc to wake the turbo up
I’ve done every bolt on available the best engine management etc going to look at new gen Garret turbos for a solution ?
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
The sc42 plus will make 450 plus as joe said
but at the expense of low end power
my jdm has zero below 4K
the turbo is not suitable to a 2 litre car in the real world the car is horrible to drive on the road
It’s dreadfully bad shocking to drive we’re I face a dilemma remove the sc42 for a more modern turbo one that will do similar better with much better spool
Or more engine cc to wake the turbo up
I’ve done every bolt on available the best engine management etc going to look at new gen Garret turbos for a solution ?
is that twinscroll non + 42 as well ?
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Originally Posted by Jamesfromrugby
Scabbynet at its best
tbh not a lot of people on here have much of a clue anymore.

For the record scoobyclinics stuff for the most part is standard stuff bought elsewhere with added bullsh1t and sticker branding added.
turbos for one and sone time ago they were putting stickers on k sport brakes and passing them of as there own.

Here comes tidgy.....
Blasphemy
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
The sc42 plus will make 450 plus as joe said
but at the expense of low end power
my jdm has zero below 4K
the turbo is not suitable to a 2 litre car in the real world the car is horrible to drive on the road
It’s dreadfully bad shocking to drive we’re I face a dilemma remove the sc42 for a more modern turbo one that will do similar better with much better spool
Or more engine cc to wake the turbo up
I’ve done every bolt on available the best engine management etc going to look at new gen Garret turbos for a solution ?
Those G series look pretty decent from the responce side.
not as powerful as equivalent Gen 2 GTX but pack a good punch.
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Originally Posted by Jamesfromrugby
Stop trying to polish a turd and buy a proper modern performance car .
Massive lag is so 90s
I had loads of modern cars GTRs Mcars ect nothing drives like a Scoob !
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Originally Posted by Nelzsti
I had loads of modern cars GTRs Mcars ect nothing drives like a Scoob !
Handling wise my M140i drove like a dream compared to the Impreza it's only issue was traction in poor conditions, which made it almost the opposite of the Sti i had. But it didn't understeer anything like the Sti's ixve had & with the M-Performance diff it was very good in the dry.

I would only have thought the M Cars be even better still.

Have onLy read about the GTR so my uneducated opinion of it currently is that its almost Golf R like in that it's soo good you feel your not doing anything ?

The 140i ran a 7.5 100-200kmh with just a decat & an ots flash at home map. Lucky if my 450bhp Blobeye was 10s

Recently drove a Facelift RS3 which was a 10sec car & ran 6.7 100-200kmh again with stock turbo & basic bolt ons. It's now my new favourite car although that 2.5 pulled like a train it didn't have anything like the low down grunt that B58 in the 140i had.

I can't imagine the level you would need to take an Sti upto to be able to hang with that & thats before you mention fuel economy, comfort & just a far nicer place to sit.

Currently back in a Fozzy Sti which is my 1st 2.5 EJ and although it's a dinosaur in comparison to the modern cars it has baggs more torque low down comoared to either of My 2.0 EJ cars.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
is that twinscroll non + 42 as well ?
the newest twinscroll plus billet bla dee bla
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There are a lot of reasons including why the BRZ is so popular. Look at the Golf R the biggest complaint everyone has with it is foot on brake while holding accelerator, let go of brake and hold accelerator to finish line without doing anything. Has nothing to do with the driver, nothing to try and improve or get right etc.

When I used to jump into the classic it was so raw, you could feel what was going on. But people want and need different things. Scoobys don't meet the needs of everyone.
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Originally Posted by NOSSY_89
There are a lot of reasons including why the BRZ is so popular. Look at the Golf R the biggest complaint everyone has with it is foot on brake while holding accelerator, let go of brake and hold accelerator to finish line without doing anything. Has nothing to do with the driver, nothing to try and improve or get right etc.

When I used to jump into the classic it was so raw, you could feel what was going on. But people want and need different things. Scoobys don't meet the needs of everyone.
Do they not sell like 100 BRZ in UK per year ?

I know they GT86 outsells it massively here like 10- 1. Must be the Subaru name lolol.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Do they not sell like 100 BRZ in UK per year ?

I know they GT86 outsells it massively here like 10- 1. Must be the Subaru name lolol.
I'm not sure what the current sales figures are but I was under the impression it was selling really well, not just in the UK but globally.
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Originally Posted by Jamesfromrugby
sales of gt86/brz are very low in the UK, thr new one is not even coming here
So thought I would have a look into this a bit more, on report says in 2019 Subaru UK sold 100 or so BRZs but then another report for the same years shows 5x as much

Then there was some statement from Subaru UK CEO, BRZ is not where the market is because it is heading to SUVs so thats what they will focus on. You can tell there are some real crack pots running the UK arm of it.
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
The sc42 plus will make 450 plus as joe said
but at the expense of low end power
my jdm has zero below 4K
the turbo is not suitable to a 2 litre car in the real world the car is horrible to drive on the road
It’s dreadfully bad shocking to drive we’re I face a dilemma remove the sc42 for a more modern turbo one that will do similar better with much better spool
Or more engine cc to wake the turbo up
I’ve done every bolt on available the best engine management etc going to look at new gen Garret turbos for a solution ?
@RAGGY DOO you could always try a sniff of nitrous to wake it up...

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Originally Posted by adam.pah
@RAGGY DOO you could always try a sniff of nitrous to wake it up...

I asked the clinic to put antilag on it they said the car didn’t have and exhaust gas temp sensor so I couldn’t run it due to being a twin scroll ?anyone ever here about that ?

I can drive around the lag but it’s a pita
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
I asked the clinic to put antilag on it they said the car didn’t have and exhaust gas temp sensor so I couldn’t run it due to being a twin scroll ?anyone ever here about that ?

I can drive around the lag but it’s a pita
adding an EGT sensor would mean putting a bung somewhere to measure it, pre turbo temps are more accurate but you could have one fitted post turbo and then have that as part of the ALS conditions.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
The 140i ran a 7.5 100-200kmh with just a decat & an ots flash at home map. Lucky if my 450bhp Blobeye was 10s

Recently drove a Facelift RS3 which was a 10sec car & ran 6.7 100-200kmh again with stock turbo & basic bolt ons. It's now my new favourite car although that 2.5 pulled like a train it didn't have anything like the low down grunt that B58 in the 140i had.

I can't imagine the level you would need to take an Sti upto to be able to hang with that & thats before you mention fuel economy, comfort & just a far nicer place to sit.

Currently back in a Fozzy Sti which is my 1st 2.5 EJ and although it's a dinosaur in comparison to the modern cars it has baggs more torque low down comoared to either of My 2.0 EJ cars.
Doesn't that mostly miss the point though? For me it's nothing to do with performance against the clock, the Impreza is more of a driving experiance than the modern cars, more of everything that i enjoy about driving. If I'm going on a 200 mile run, yes, I'll prefer to take the daily modern car. If I'm going out purely for a drive then I'm taking the Impreza (assuming it's running lol), it wouldn't even cross my mind to take the other one, which is decently quick itself.
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
I asked the clinic to put antilag on it they said the car didn’t have and exhaust gas temp sensor so I couldn’t run it due to being a twin scroll ?anyone ever here about that ?

I can drive around the lag but it’s a pita
Most anTi lag is a gimmick & rarely makes any useful positive boost off throttle. Just adds a few crackles & sends EGt's through the roof.

Wouldn't waste my time with it.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Most anTi lag is a gimmick & rarely makes any useful positive boost off throttle. Just adds a few crackles & sends EGt's through the roof.

Wouldn't waste my time with it.
syvecs stuff can be pretty effective though especially on drive by wire cars where you can force the throttle open to 30% or more
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Doesn't that mostly miss the point though? For me it's nothing to do with performance against the clock, the Impreza is more of a driving experiance than the modern cars, more of everything that i enjoy about driving. If I'm going on a 200 mile run, yes, I'll prefer to take the daily modern car. If I'm going out purely for a drive then I'm taking the Impreza (assuming it's running lol), it wouldn't even cross my mind to take the other one, which is decently quick itself.
The 140i was sold at same time as the last Impreza's and isn't too different to the older 135's which were out with the last of the Newages, which shows just how little progress Subaru made in 20years, they should have taken a leaf out of Porsches book in the way they evolved the 911. If anything Subaru regressed over time.

I don't think you realise just how fast that 7.5 is for a stock turbo hatchback with just software & a decat. It could have been closer to 7 flat with some Ethanol & still on a flash at home tune. With a fuel pump & turbo for under 4k cost it can have almost 600bhp reliably & run 5's 100-200kmh which would put it on par with a 150k 2020 992 Turbo S Porsche. In anything but poor conditions the RWD 40i driving experience is hard to beat especially now everything has gone 2.0 & AWD. Plus everyone knows RWD is the most fun/scary

I'd say modern tech in cars has them better in pretty much every measurable way. At least until they invent the Fun"ometer".

My "fun" car is now a Westfield which really does put a smile on your face like no 4 door can of compromises ever could, but **** driving 200 miles in it....

I really struggle to think of a situation where i'd rather be in either of my old Sti's now other than in bad weather.

The trump card of the impreza back in day was that it could be a giant killer where as now you would be lucky to keep up with latest FWD Golf Gti in a 2018 Final Edition Impreza which is embarassing to say.

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Originally Posted by bludgod
syvecs stuff can be pretty effective though especially on drive by wire cars where you can force the throttle open to 30% or more
Yea that would be the "Real" anti lag, not the pretend stuff available on a stock ECU although i've also seen folk playing with throttle jacks & carberry rom with good results, the Rolling Launch/Anti Lag that can be setup is insane with Syvecs.

Does it not affect braking performance because it resuces vaccuum at servo too ? Or is that just the really old school stuff ?

With the cost of Syvecs tho i think i will stick to brake boosting when i see a golf gti beside me haha

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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Yea that would be the "Real" anti lag, not the pretend stuff available on a stock ECU although i've also seen folk playing with throttle jacks & carberry rom with good results, the Rolling Launch/Anti Lag that can be setup is insane with Syvecs.

Does it not affect braking performance because it resuces vaccuum at servo too ? Or is that just the really old school stuff ?

With the cost of Syvecs tho i think i will stick to brake boosting when i see a golf gti beside me haha
yes you'll get no brakes when its on unless you do a vac delete on the brake system #rallycar - carberry isn't bad if you don't mind kicking the throttle a lot you can get some decent positive pressure from it. Same even for hawks with some trickery in the ECUTek mapping you can hold the throttle open with negative timing and fuel you just have no way to make ignition cuts (same issues on carberry no cuts available). Tho ECULabs on the bug/blobs can do ignition cuts and can be as violent as you like if you can supply the air too it.
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I have the rolling launch control on a button on the dash not used it yet

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I'd rather have an old E36 M3 again rather than a 140i. Straight line speed isn't everything. I had a 9.4s 100-200 km/h Saab 13 years ago. It didn't make it a fun car.
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Originally Posted by Turbovin
I'd rather have an old E36 M3 again rather than a 140i. Straight line speed isn't everything. I had a 9.4s 100-200 km/h Saab 13 years ago. It didn't make it a fun car.
Same ol "driving experience" story

Have you drove a 140i nvm one with the MPerformance diff fitted which really transformed the car, along with the software it really was a car in it's own class. Wayy more fun than any Sti i've ever been in.... plus that truly is a daily driver. Hop in a proper modern track weapon CS Golf for example and it would blow you away.

The 40i is better in every measurable way until the "fun"ometer comes along.

Only an M2 Comp would tempt me back to BMW, although this latest M3 is gona be something else. But closer to 80-90k fully loaded which just seems crazy.

9.4 isn't really that great nowadays when a leon cupra with a couple bolt ons & tune can get into the 7's

Shows how slow these old dinosaurs really are even at big power.

i wonder who has some good 100-200 times in their scooby to share to compare.

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That was 13 years ago. It did 8.8s later with an adjusted map.

9.38s (dragy GPS) in my 360 hp classic Type R but a very slow shift to 5th.100-150 3.17s. Don't care that much about figures any more. There's always someone faster

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Originally Posted by Turbovin
That was 13 years ago. It did 8.8s later with an adjusted map.

9.38s (dragy GPS) in my 360 hp classic Type R but a very slow shift to 5th.100-150 3.17s. Don't care that much about figures any more. There's always someone faster
Will be alot more than just software on the Saab tho eh ? I had an old 93 hot aero that was crazy in straight line but the FWD & chassis just couldn't cope. It couldn't be any less sporty if it tried. But cost me like 400 quid so couldn't complain.

Type R are great motors the lightness compared to anything newage was unreal and could do the same times with about 20% less power. Plus when anything does beat you, there's the "my cars 20+ years old" card to play.

The effort involved to run the those times with an impreza is crazy & costly.

I get that theres always someone faster but in the 40i those cars were pretty fancy stock ones or highly tuned & built for the purpose.

Imagine being in a Final Edition Sti then gettin horsed off a schoolkid in a tuned Fiesta, i personally couldn't live with the shame.

Even with just a stage 1 engine map alone the 40i can run a 7sec 100-200kmh.
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I had a M2 DCT a few years ago, Had it mapped and a sports cat fitted , it was quite quick but i lost interest in it after a few months, just another modern BMW . Ended up swapping it for X540d. Recently sold an M3 V8 which was nice motor at least that had some soul.

I personally dont get involved with timing my cars as i cant see the point, I enjoy my STI for what it is, if it feels fast then it is fast! and the way it feels and sounds,
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Will be alot more than just software on the Saab tho eh ? I had an old 93 hot aero that was crazy in straight line but the FWD & chassis just couldn't cope. It couldn't be any less sporty if it tried. But cost me like 400 quid so couldn't complain.

Type R are great motors the lightness compared to anything newage was unreal and could do the same times with about 20% less power. Plus when anything does beat you, there's the "my cars 20+ years old" card to play.

The effort involved to run the those times with an impreza is crazy & costly.

I get that theres always someone faster but in the 40i those cars were pretty fancy stock ones or highly tuned & built for the purpose.

Imagine being in a Final Edition Sti then gettin horsed off a schoolkid in a tuned Fiesta, i personally couldn't live with the shame.

Even with just a stage 1 engine map alone the 40i can run a 7sec 100-200kmh.
It was a 900 - 94 with 9-3 Viggen exterior. Those Trionic 5 generation engines are really great to be honest and so is the Trionic 5 engine management considering it's age. It was a 230000 km old stock block but the cylinder head was replaced to a new one because of leaking valves, however I fitted the best stock cams from an 86 9000 turbo. . Stock pistons and everything. A GT2871R (GT2560 jap spec to be correct), Pace intercooler, exhaust and injectors and E85. 421 hp and 506 Nm. I sure wish Subaru engines were that good. I know that V7 STI engines can take good power but they don't live as long.

I see your points and I would never consider a newer generation Subaru. My daily driver is a poverty spec Golf 7.5 estate R-line. Maybe I'll upgrade to a real R but they don't excite me that much for some reason.


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