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Old 11 December 2020, 02:59 PM
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I must invest in one of those draggy things next year when the hatch comes back out
we don’t have a drag strip avail in the rep of Ireland
I’ve had a play with a few golf R on the motorway and it wasn’t competitive the only thing I’ve had keep up was a bog standard rs3 saloon the new one with 400hp
i was on the 95 octane map 420hp and off round out second gear I was glued to the back off him until he decided enough was enough and backed off
There wasn’t anything left in the Impreza but it’s a totally different car with the ethanol in .
In the world we live in now I would like to
do some testing with the draggy to see what the car is capable of
I could easy swap over to a golf R they are dozens of them in my area
but I have the only jdm hatch in The rep of Ireland and have only seen two other sti hatches
so believe it or not the Impreza is a rare sight on the roads and I love that about the car
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
I must invest in one of those draggy things next year when the hatch comes back out
we don’t have a drag strip avail in the rep of Ireland
I’ve had a play with a few golf R on the motorway and it wasn’t competitive the only thing I’ve had keep up was a bog standard rs3 saloon the new one with 400hp
i was on the 95 octane map 420hp and off round out second gear I was glued to the back off him until he decided enough was enough and backed off
There wasn’t anything left in the Impreza but it’s a totally different car with the ethanol in .
In the world we live in now I would like to
do some testing with the draggy to see what the car is capable of
I could easy swap over to a golf R they are dozens of them in my area
but I have the only jdm hatch in The rep of Ireland and have only seen two other sti hatches
so believe it or not the Impreza is a rare sight on the roads and I love that about the car
Dragy is a great little thing. Even just to see the difference between runnin ethanol & not. Even simple mods or the difference from a hot day to a cold day.

The best thing about the modern stuff is how easy they are to unlock that extra power. That same 400bhp Rs3 has enough turbo & fueling to be almost 600bhp on an E-Blend & run low 10s, thats modern 911 turbo S figures in a small 4 door with very few mods & will take everything you can throw at it launch after launch, pull after pull.
No need for turbo swaps, injector, fuelling mods, coilovers that take out your fillings.
Both the rs3 & 140i are capable of hitting the double ton with stock turbos and some youtube clips out there to back that up. Beyond 130 the sti just felt dangerous.

The one i drove had a decent spec with the ceramics and those alone were worth buying the car for. I've never had a car that can slow down from 160mph with the same as as the Sti from 60mph again & again.

I get the rareness has it's appeal & it's good to see somebody that can see beyond their scoop happy to share both the good and the bad.

Appreciated.

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I love my blob sti. Not for speed nor handling just for the looks and noise. I very rarely see blob sti’s wherever I go so people do stop and stare. Because my wheels are 18 inch and 9.5 wide my mates say the car looks proper wide. I get slower cars wanting to race and I get cars which will smoke mine wanting to race but I don’t race any just makes you look like a tw@t. If I see some kids head hanging out of the car next to me looking I will give it a rev and a pop because that was me once lol.
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Originally Posted by johno01
I love my blob sti. Not for speed nor handling just for the looks and noise. I very rarely see blob sti’s wherever I go so people do stop and stare. Because my wheels are 18 inch and 9.5 wide my mates say the car looks proper wide. I get slower cars wanting to race and I get cars which will smoke mine wanting to race but I don’t race any just makes you look like a tw@t. If I see some kids head hanging out of the car next to me looking I will give it a rev and a pop because that was me once lol.
Nothing wrong with a bit of Midnight Club action on the motorway to see who's fastest. As long as it's only those involved in the race that will be hosed off the road when it goes wrong. Most likely to be the tw@ts who think they are Mcrae on the backroads causing accidents killing folk not even involved in their stupid actions, than a well planned side by side roll race.

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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Wow just so much lies in this it's unbelievable.

1. The blob ran many sets of tyres from T1R's Ns2R, Mich Supersports, AD08's.

2. Westfield is for knockhill & SLS next year....where its setup for.... not crail although is is faster than my mapped Fsti...

3. HKS are still budget coilovers don't kid yourseld... hardly a set of KW's, EXE-TC.... unless you mean they cost more & that makes them better which is true for most things including cars...

4. I also compared the Golf R which is a 2.0 turbo with AWD.... is this not a fair comparison....

5. You have no idea how i used either of my Sti so to say it only ever drove in a straight line is Horse **** and utter nonsense.

6. I bought a Subaru because at the time it was capable of keeping up with mates RS3 (mentioned already if u can read) which it did at the time but would get ruined by a modern RS3 now.

7. Only one of the Sti blew up.... due to running almost 500bhp on a stock engine

8. There has never & will never be a crail pig on any of my cars....

9. I bought my latest Subaru to fit 3 dogs in back & work in winter when the 140i is as useless asthe westfield.....

Couldnt make it to 10 but you got a couple things right i will credit you for.

1 BC's are absolute dross

2 The 2.5 is crap

3 Your JDM Hawk required a hell of a lot of work to get it close to acceptable...and has had about 10k dropped into it to make it what it is now. So i would expect it to be better than a billy basic Sti...


Shame thats about all you got correct after putting all that effort into a reply....
Honestly with the amount of ****e you've spoken I don't believe at all you have even fitted those tyres to the STI, as Im sure you'd be ***** waving about it on your thread. Regardless, even if you did, doesn't make much of a difference seeing as all you care about is straight line speed given all the nonsense you've spouted about how cars being faster in a straight line are overall a faster car as whole. You've also painted your own picture about how you've used the car based on your old build thread, this thread and your ridiculous straight line speed ideology.

Yup HKS is soooooooo budget. Of course you would pluck EXE-TC and KW out of the air, you've read about them online but only ever had first hand experience with BCs, more useless crap you are spouting.
https://www.part-box.com/hks-hiperma...scription=true

Keeping up with your mates RS3, at what, a straight line? Bought the wrong car there, can guarantee a well sorted chassis and a VF35 with around 360bhp and a half decent driver would probably spank an RS3 around the track, especially if it was an 8P which understeer even more than the 8V. And don't try and tell me thats BS either, I worked on them long enough and had plenty Demo's home to actually test on the same roads my Impreza would be on.
By your logic you could have had a modern diesel estate which would have had more torque and power than the FSTI so again extremely contradictory based on all the crap you've spouted previously on this thread.

Good luck in tracking the car at Knockhill, seems like it will be a true eye opener for you. I'll await eagerly for you to come back on here and tell us you are selling the Westfield because it doesn't have huge power and is getting spanked by everything .....

Your a mong and you just want people to agree with your idiotic logic which no one is falling for, did I already say you are wanting the last word? Wait for it......


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I’m not a fast driver at all and I’m the first to admit. I’d end up crashing if I did try going fast around corners. I’ve did the straight line blast etc but it’s not for me. Now I’m happy being the stick in the mud and sticking to the limits when out and about in the Subaru.
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Going fast on your normal roads is a recipe for disaster imo. One minor error could end up killing you or someone else. I don’t fancy leaving My gf and 3 year old anytime soon so I will stick to the limits thanks.
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Originally Posted by Dreep
Honestly with the amount of ****e you've spoken I don't believe at all you have even fitted those tyres to the STI, as Im sure you'd be ***** waving about it on your thread. Regardless, even if you did, doesn't make much of a difference seeing as all you care about is straight line speed given all the nonsense you've spouted about how cars being faster in a straight line are overall a faster car as whole. You've also painted your own picture about how you've used the car based on your old build thread, this thread and your ridiculous straight line speed ideology.

Yup HKS is soooooooo budget. Of course you would pluck EXE-TC and KW out of the air, you've read about them online but only ever had first hand experience with BCs, more useless crap you are spouting.
https://www.part-box.com/hks-hiperma...scription=true

Keeping up with your mates RS3, at what, a straight line? Bought the wrong car there, can guarantee a well sorted chassis and a VF35 with around 360bhp and a half decent driver would probably spank an RS3 around the track, especially if it was an 8P which understeer even more than the 8V. And don't try and tell me thats BS either, I worked on them long enough and had plenty Demo's home to actually test on the same roads my Impreza would be on.
By your logic you could have had a modern diesel estate which would have had more torque and power than the FSTI so again extremely contradictory based on all the crap you've spouted previously on this thread.

Good luck in tracking the car at Knockhill, seems like it will be a true eye opener for you. I'll await eagerly for you to come back on here and tell us you are selling the Westfield because it doesn't have huge power and is getting spanked by everything .....

Your a mong and you just want people to agree with your idiotic logic which no one is falling for, did I already say you are wanting the last word? Wait for it......
I've driven cars with BC's, (Blobeye) Teins(Ep3), Meister R's,(FSti) Bilsteins (Rs3), KW V3's (Rs3) & Protech (Westy)but yea your right i'm scared of corners.....

Now your telling my i'm lying about a set of tyres hahaha

The cars already been to knockhill and ran a 55 sec lap so at least i have a target how hard can it be....it goes round corners better than any Sti ever could...

Because i like a car to actually go fast doesnt mean it doesnt need to go around corners your making alot of assumptions about somebody you know nothing about..

You cant be a complete Tard tho at least you understand an 8V is better than an 8P...but let yourself down by acting surprised that a car weighing less with more power would be quicker....360bhp Blobeye well mine was 355 "supposedly"and on the road the RS3 was pretty much the same as well as in straight line. Until it got tuned & i needed a bigger turbo to keep up. Which ruined the entire "experiance" of the Sti with monumentous lag.... Kept it relative to OP

I guess you never got to drive any well sorted tuned Audis at your work if think an Sti stands a chance.....

What times your JDM Hawk do seen as your so into track times.....

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Originally Posted by johno01
Going fast on your normal roads is a recipe for disaster imo. One minor error could end up killing you or someone else. I don’t fancy leaving My gf and 3 year old anytime soon so I will stick to the limits thanks.
Couldn't agree more but as long as its not someone elses GF & 3 year old you take out when it goes wrong & only yourself put at risk it's upto each individual if they want to take that risk to themselves.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Couldn't agree more but as long as its not someone elses GF & 3 year old you take out when it goes wrong & only yourself put at risk it's upto each individual if they want to take that risk to themselves.
I no mate But even then families will be ruined because someone decided to have a brain fart and test his or her new tyres or it’s just been tuned up. Even the best drivers crash through no fault of there own.
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Originally Posted by johno01
Going fast on your normal roads is a recipe for disaster imo. One minor error could end up killing you or someone else. I don’t fancy leaving My gf and 3 year old anytime soon so I will stick to the limits thanks.
A bit like people doing timed drag runs on the public road trying to record how fast their cars are I guess...
As I said tracks / circuits are where these cars are best exploited without getting plain silly on the road. If people don't experience that, it's going to be extremely hard for them to understand the true capability of these cars.

Theres a good BestMotoring video that actually shows a Touge battle between the A45 AMG and the VAB STI. The ex-JGTC drivers actually rate the STI better to drive, especially in terms of fun (who'd have thought it eh? ). More so one of them owns an A45 AMG personally and still rates the STI higher.
The STI wins the time based trail on the Touge but loses the 1v1 against the A45 AMG as it created a bigger gap during the last uphill section. The STI has 70bhp less but is also £20k less than the A45 being tested. Old tech, cheaper and its still more fun to drive and quicker in some areas. All out power doesn't mean everything as I and a few others have tried to explain, having fun does though. Unfortunately I'm bored of entertaining one foot wonder that keeps coming back for the last word now, he's a typical if I've been to tenerife hes been to elevenerife. Yawn.

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Originally Posted by Dreep
A bit like people doing timed drag runs on the public road trying to record how fast their cars are I guess...
As I said tracks / circuits are where these cars are best exploited without getting plain silly on the road. If people don't experience that, it's going to be extremely hard for them to understand the true capability of these cars.

Theres a good BestMotoring video that actually shows a Touge battle between the A45 AMG and the VAB STI. The ex-JGTC drivers actually rate the STI better to drive, especially in terms of fun (who'd have thought it eh? ). More so one of them owns an A45 AMG personally and still rates the STI higher.
The STI wins the time based trail on the Touge but loses the 1v1 against the A45 AMG as it created a bigger gap during the last uphill section. The STI has 70bhp less but is also £20k less than the A45 being tested. Old tech, cheaper and its still more fun to drive and quicker in some areas. All out power doesn't mean everything as I and a few others have tried to explain, having fun does though. Unfortunately I'm bored of entertaining one foot wonder that keeps coming back for the last word now, he's a typical if I've been to tenerife hes been to elevenerife. Yawn.

Too many dashcams to be flying past folk at 130mph on a public road. You would need to be silly to give anyone the chance to bum you like that. Like i says best runs are done in low temps middle of night on empty roads. Where only yourself is at risk.

All my times done on a flat empty stretch of motorway especially any half mile runs coz the speeds can get silly.

Your not gona find a track in UK where you can test your 100-150mph times except possibly Silverstone.

You keep saying your fed up yet still reply....

You also ignored my question about your times/laptimes seeing as all you go on about is circuit racing i'd expect you to have at least 1 to throw out there.....

You also put tyres as the top mod yet don't wonder why the A45 in that vid is held back & all thats says is the tyres let it down.... again the "old" A45 from decade ago......it pumps it when in front & when behind u can see hes being held up even if his tryes are crap dnt know what vid ur talking about where the 45 is slower.... the old 45.....

https://youtu.be/kAgF3Q4ZGjg

Have u actually driven any modern car new enough to have warranty today ? 8p's 8v's & that A45 have all been replaced. When they were out i had my sti and it was almost capable. But they are now the old hat & been replaced.....

If you answer anything above at least give us a laptime from your JDM weapon that only shines on a track.......

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Originally Posted by Dreep
A bit like people doing timed drag runs on the public road trying to record how fast their cars are I guess...
As I said tracks / circuits are where these cars are best exploited without getting plain silly on the road. If people don't experience that, it's going to be extremely hard for them to understand the true capability of these cars.

Theres a good BestMotoring video that actually shows a Touge battle between the A45 AMG and the VAB STI. The ex-JGTC drivers actually rate the STI better to drive, especially in terms of fun (who'd have thought it eh? ). More so one of them owns an A45 AMG personally and still rates the STI higher.
The STI wins the time based trail on the Touge but loses the 1v1 against the A45 AMG as it created a bigger gap during the last uphill section. The STI has 70bhp less but is also £20k less than the A45 being tested. Old tech, cheaper and its still more fun to drive and quicker in some areas. All out power doesn't mean everything as I and a few others have tried to explain, having fun does though. Unfortunately I'm bored of entertaining one foot wonder that keeps coming back for the last word now, he's a typical if I've been to tenerife hes been to elevenerife. Yawn.
spot on regarding the top bit mate. Coming from an inexperienced fast driver here, I have no idea how a 4wd Subaru handles. I think down the line I will get different wheels etc and have a track day or 2 just to experience it but there’s not a chance in hell of me pushing it around the corners as it will end in tears 100%. Some of my mates are nutters and they can push there cars far more than I’m comfortable with but I’m guessing it will be the same if I jumped in the passenger seat with some folk on here who know there car inside out. Stay safe people
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Too many dashcams to be flying past folk at 130mph on a public road. You would need to be silly to give anyone the chance to bum you like that. Like i says best runs are done in low temps middle of night on empty roads. Where only yourself is at risk.

All my times done on a flat empty stretch of motorway especially any half mile runs coz the speeds can get silly.

Your not gona find a track in UK where you can test your 100-150mph times except possibly Silverstone.

You keep saying your fed up yet still reply....

You also ignored my question about your times/laptimes seeing as all you go on about is circuit racing i'd expect you to have at least 1 to throw out there.....

You also put tyres as the top mod yet don't wonder why the A45 in that vid is held back & all thats says is the tyres let it down.... again the "old" A45 from decade ago......it pumps it when in front & when behind u can see hes being held up even if his tryes are crap dnt know what vid ur talking about where the 45 is slower.... the old 45.....

https://youtu.be/kAgF3Q4ZGjg

Have u actually driven any modern car new enough to have warranty today ? 8p's 8v's & that A45 have all been replaced. When they were out i had my sti and it was almost capable. But they are now the old hat & been replaced.....

If you answer anything above at least give us a laptime from your JDM weapon that only shines on a track.......
Ive come to a conclusion, You are right about everything you said and can You please **** off and leave us alone.
We love our cars and we are sorry their not up to your standards
Although my car is faster than yours

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Originally Posted by lockheed
Ive come to a conclusion, You are right about everything you said and can You please **** off and leave us alone.
We love our cars and we are sorry their not up to your standards
Although my car is faster than yours
i defo love my car for the looks and sound mate 👍
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Originally Posted by lockheed
Ive come to a conclusion, You are right about everything you said and can You please **** off and leave us alone.
We love our cars and we are sorry their not up to your standards
Although my car is faster than yours
Which one my mapped fozzy sti is one of slowest cars i have right now & 2nd slowesr i have ever owned....

Can't say that & not give a time......
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On a serious note how does a lower power 4wd Subaru compare to a high power 2wd 140i? These bmw’s are lovely but if your around a small track like 3 sisters I’m guessing the bm will get smoked? Any thoughts? Cheers
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Originally Posted by johno01
On a serious note how does a lower power 4wd Subaru compare to a high power 2wd 140i? These bmw’s are lovely but if your around a small track like 3 sisters I’m guessing the bm will get smoked? Any thoughts? Cheers
Bone stock poverty spec with no diff runs a 58 round knockhill & it struggles to put power down with only 1wd and a heap of torque.

The diff transforms the car, and it can be floored in 2nd gear no problem. With decent PS4 tyres you can get 3.9 secs on the road which in a rwd car is incredible. Its around 4.4 stock. Then a decat & flash at home tune sends it from 340 up to as high as 470bhp on pump fuel. E30 Blend can see 490bhp. Then with a High Pressure Fuel Pump upgrade its almost 520bhp and can run 6.? 100-200kmh. Best mine did was 7.5 on pump fuel with stock fuel pump just a decat & DIY map. Just software & no decat they can run 7.9. Chopping best part of 5 seconds off its 100-200 time shows how much they are held back.

The Rs3 is another another league again and would **** all over the 140i stock for stock & mod for mod. Can run low 10s on the quarter and 6.5 100-200 basic bolt ons & a tune. ...
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Originally Posted by johno01
On a serious note how does a lower power 4wd Subaru compare to a high power 2wd 140i? These bmw’s are lovely but if your around a small track like 3 sisters I’m guessing the bm will get smoked? Any thoughts? Cheers
The M135i is farr slower than a 40i and the car in test has an open diff. Not thw optional M-Performance LSD.
Even that toasted the sti by 2 seconds per lap.... stock vs stock.

Prob the worst subaru of them all to choose to race but that was what was on sale at the time. The 140i with it's B58 engine is incredible.

"It doesn't change direction like the BMW"

I could quote him all day but if you watch it you will get the point. No stock Subaru would stand a chance against it unless it's raining. But if it's raining you could run around the track quicker than the BMW as it's deadly in the wet.



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When your on track in a Subaru with adjustable dccd, do you adjust it for better lap times?
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Originally Posted by johno01
When your on track in a Subaru with adjustable dccd, do you adjust it for better lap times?
I think the later ones adhust it automatically deoending on traction available ? Or the mode its in ?

The older ones you could send more power to the rear not sure about %'s tho.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
I think the later ones adhust it automatically deoending on traction available ? Or the mode its in ?

The older ones you could send more power to the rear not sure about %'s tho.
cheers mate , it is very interesting stuff regarding the technicalities etc..
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How much were these cars at the time?
also I'm sure the servicing and maintenance would be more for BMW?
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
How much were these cars at the time?
also I'm sure the servicing and maintenance would be more for BMW?
Came with 3 year service pack for less than 600 quid

140i was about 30k after a massive dealer contribution so actually 5k less than the final edition sti that was on sale at same time.
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Quick update / Picked my car up from Cams today after them fitting a new map sensor and a full remap . The car drives great now and goes like stink, well chuffed
Old 16 December 2020, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nelzsti
Quick update / Picked my car up from Cams today after them fitting a new map sensor and a full remap . The car drives great now and goes like stink, well chuffed
@Nelzsti I'm really pleased for you mate! What boost are you running now?
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Originally Posted by adam.pah
@Nelzsti I'm really pleased for you mate! What boost are you running now?
Brian mentioned its 1.8 bar, i dont have a printout as they mapped it on the road. I will go back in the new year to get it on the dyno as i would love to know some actual figures.

Well chuffed with this Turbo Adam, all my reservations about possible turbo lag going with a bigger Turbo were unwarranted. I have sort of forgotten how it drove with the SC360 on as i havent had the car for 4 months but i would guess the GTX comes on boost at about the same time, just with a lot more thrust!
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Originally Posted by Nelzsti
Brian mentioned its 1.8 bar, i dont have a printout as they mapped it on the road. I will go back in the new year to get it on the dyno as i would love to know some actual figures.

Well chuffed with this Turbo Adam, all my reservations about possible turbo lag going with a bigger Turbo were unwarranted. I have sort of forgotten how it drove with the SC360 on as i havent had the car for 4 months but i would guess the GTX comes on boost at about the same time, just with a lot more thrust!
Would love to see the actual figures if you do get it dyno'd. I'm running 1.75 on mine as I'm on 11mm ARP studs but AET told me that the turbo should be good for 2.2 bar!
I'm pleased that you're happy. I'm always a little reserved about recommending products and my heart sank when I first read your initial post, I really feel this is the best turbo I've experienced for drivability though and am glad you're enjoying it again.
Just goes to show how important that mapping can be.....
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I'm gona guess 300ft,lbs by 4k rpm & around 450bhp

May spool better due to the 7cm housing but i'm gona say that for every 100rpm before 4k the 300ftlbs comes in will be 10bhp less

So 300ftlbs @ 3900 & 440bhp or 4100rpm & 460bhp

Turbo should be good for closer to 500bhp if you get some ethanol in the tank & another tune.

On E30 i gained almost 10-15%

Look forward to seeing a dyno printout. Try get them to hook into the boost pioes so can get a boost plot too.

i cant see it being anywhere close to SC36 as far as coming on boost. That should be almost 1k earlier.

This is where i love dragy. You could have done a before & after run to see how much it improved performance.
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Mine is at 300ftlbs by 3500rpm and 400ftlbs by 4400rpm.
The power is there when I want it, and I have a huge FMIC!
As people have already pointed out though, this isn't about numbers, it's about how the car feels to drive and it sounds like the OP is very happy now.


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