SmurfyBhoy

My 140i was stage 2 doing 7.6 100-200

Leon Cupra 290 stage 2 is around 7.9

Mates RS3 is 6.6

Dsg is another level

Turbovin

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Here is Autotop NL's scoreboard of their Dragy review times. It takes quite a bit of power to reach those numbers.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...9VQ/edit#gid=0

jaygsi

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You have to ask yourself, how many people stop and point at a Subaru? And how many do that with a golf?

I was pulling out of a car park other day and a lad had his phone out filming the car, I've never had that in any other car in my life lol

Why because loads lads young and old love Subaru's. I know what your saying about power, the game has moved on massively, and Subaru has just coasted on there history. Unlike say Honda. But we all know what kind of power you can run if your willing to splash the cash. Either way I will stick with Subaru's and i love turbo lag lol

jaygsi

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Man that's fast.

My mates got a Leon, remapped running meth. It was a very forgettable drive, although it was fairly comfortable, and to be honest didn't feel that fast.

If you asked all the male population if they would prefer fast VAG or a type r i would love to see the results.

SmurfyBhoy

Folk think a fast VAG car is a Golf Gti tho

Trust me. If you drove a well sorted RS3 it would change your mind.

I had only driven the older one up until them & even those at stage 2 were not too much to shout about.

But these recent ones i think it was 2018 they changed. The saloon too just felt amazing. Zero lag, crazy power (550bhp)
launched like a bullet easily low 3's poss even 2.9-60mph & ran 10sec 1/4 for fun.

Handling to match as well which was were the older ones were really lacking. i thought my old blobeye sti was great in the bends on coilovers till i drove that amd realised how much stuff had moved on.

Not a cheap car tho but the really hold their value very well.

The leon was the most shocking of them all tbh i never expected it to run thos times

As for AutotopNL take their times with a pinch because they usually run much slower than us here in UK. Some say the use the low qualoty fuel which just doesn't make sense.

There's a good page on Facebook called Dragy Leaderboard with lots of times from folk

Turbovin

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There's no hope for todays generation so most would probably prefer a VAG with a pops and bangs tune.

Yes a better time than I thought, it would probably be 9s flat with a better shift. I'm still not as fast as I would like shifting with my left hand ( Sweden), especially with the 6 speed. And this was with various problems so I could probably get down to 8.5s with a new map or even better with some E85.

But then again, I did one run, started in 4th. And thought to myself, where's the fun in doing this in a Type R? Completely wrong use for the car. Drive it in some fun B roads and rev out all the short ratio gears instead of starting in a higher gear to give you the best acceleration time. That kind of motorway use is just as boring as a VAG car.

SmurfyBhoy

Exactly. & those are usually on the slow side of the times, the dont spend all day finding perfect shift points etc.

Just goes to show how fast those cars are

My 140i - 7.61 repeatable
Pals Leon Cupra 290 - 7.9?
Mates RS3 FL Saloon. 6.6

Mental times

jaygsi

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That's the kind of power I want. Nothing nothing and bang. Love it lol I've been in other cars that have more of a linear power band and there boring. I like being thrown back in my seat when the turbo kicks in. Prob not best for a daily but mine isn't a daily. Great for over taking all the 40-50 mph drivers. Need only a small straight and you've overtaken before you can say overtake lol

SmurfyBhoy

Sounds like you havn't actually driven a fast modern car

Don't mean a stock golf R

Laggy car is not a fast car. If takes 2 secs to come on boost your not overtaking anything with similar power that doesnt want you to.

If you love Lag i'm sure you could ask for more of it in your tune or just unplug the boost solenoid haha

Like i says it's area under the graph that makes a fast car. Not peak numbers

The car that goes nothin, nothin, bang has been left for dead before it's even on boost

Then your telling urself a chase is a race hahaha

Turbovin

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Everything's not about chasing the fastest times. If that's really that important then there's no point in having a Subaru instead of something modern. You're just wasting money trying to keep up.

jaygsi

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Where did I say a laggy car was fast. My old import didn't hit boost till over 3000 Rev,s. And just went crazy.

I'm not saying it would beat a modern hot hatch. Nor do I care. I'm saying it's fun. Was it embarrassing when sometimes you'd pull out of a junction forgetting you have lag while cars were bearing down on you errr yes.

But that's soon forgotten when the turbo kicks in

When referring to lag, I mean because your turbo is the size of a wheelie bin, not because I like having no power hahaha

jaygsi

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100% agree, if you want a car that's fast 0-60, an Impreza is far from the best car to go for.

SmurfyBhoy

Yet in it's day it was the highlight of them

0-60 was where the shined

The only time i think they truley out shine modern cars is rough ground & snow

Like i says. In their hayday they competed with 911 turbo of tht era. Now a Yaris GR would dust it

johno01

Back in the 90’s although this is nothing to brag about 6 of us were in a red astra gsi going to get some weed (I’ve not been a pot head for 20 years) and it was an animal, completely standard, same with a golf gti 16v....absolute animals, I was buzzing with my mates whilst having a joint or 2....now no car would ever give me a buzz like I got back in the day. I’ve been in extremely fast cars like most of you and it’s not the highlight of your day or week like it use to be.

does anyone know where I could buy a time machine? 😳 Cheers

jaygsi

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Not forgetting that Yaris was pitched against a newer heavier standard Impreza. And even compared to that Impreza the driver said it felt nervous. And it's a 3 cylinder 1.6?

Be interesting to see hire it fairs against newage or classic.

Proudyy

update:

Bob has actually read this and refunded me. Admitted he did some calculations wrong or selected the wrong setting, I don’t know It’s a bit over my head.

Apparently he thinks it’s only running 380, which is not exactly just shy of 440.

Disappointed, refunded but I can only say he was gracious enough to reach out to me and refund me.

I will be looking to maybe have it mapped by Duncan on the rolling road in July.

johno01

oh wow, I think bob has refunded you there when he didn’t have to....as long as the map is safe and it’s not causing any harm to your car why would he refund you? I’ve never used or met bob but to refund you because he got the figures wrong is going above and beyond...sounds like a nice guy bob 👍

johno01

Also looks like fat Ronaldo from Glasgow was right 👏👏

Proudyy

His response pretty much tells me he selected the wrong car or profile. I have no idea but it was a long detailed message and I am not technically minded. Either way he has admitted fault and helped me out as I am trying to book it in at Surrey rolling road

johno01

did he say the car is safe to use?

Proudyy

I have been using it for a couple months since. I have had no issues with it. I’ll drive it slow and safe until getting it mapped again

RAGGY DOO

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All sounds a bit strange

jaygsi

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Do some research on Duncan bud, not heard good things.

SmurfyBhoy

It sounds to me like just that software doing what it does best. Could be number of things, wrong weight, wrong ratios wrong data being input = wrong data output could be as simple as telling it that its a different model with different ratios.

That part of it has nothing to do with the tune tho & Bob could tune the car with eyes closed

Please let me confirm. I DO NOT DOUBT his mapping ability in any way whatsoever. He has prob mapped more cars than i have driven in my life.

My issue was with the software that is used when no rolling road is available. There is just to much that can affect it.

Best example being if you took wing off it would have less drag but software would see this as power increase

So again. This is not anything to worry about. I would still throw it on a dyno for the hell of it.

I would not worry about the map on the car as Bob wouldn't leave it dangerous in any way

At the end of the day you wemt to him for a tune & you got one. I have no doubt its as good as anyone in the scoob scene will get from the car.

I see those dyno results in same way i see the sticker or lolly you get off the dentist.

You didnt go to him for a dyno readout, same way u dont go to dentist for a lolly.

This was never an attack on any tuner it was always about the virtual dyno software. Its ok for a guess but remember thats all it is.

Most of the time setup for yanky whp which we all know usually translates to UK fly bhp.

Hope nobody took anything i says personally.

SmurfyBhoy

Bob defo thinks i am a Cun-t

Sorry Bob.

If he refunded you just because the figures were out then thats pretty incredible & i take my hat off to the guy.

If Bob says maps ok then the maps ok.

Still love to see the car on the rollers, even more now.

SmurfyBhoy

Does this mean i don't pay for the dyno run haha

What else do i win ??

SmurfyBhoy

Still think it would smoke them all. Nervous is what males the older ones seem rawer. New ones will be soo planted it would seem less fun. But anyone i know who has driven the latest shape says it has the best chassis of them all to date.

Sti only - not spec c, RA, RAR etc.

The base Sti only got better and better

Pretty sure a Bugeye Sti was wuicker than a classic

A hawk quicker than a bugeye

Hatch quicker than a hawk

Latest quicker than the hatch


Not including any crazy special editions in there btw. Just std. STi.

Laptimes & 1/4 mile i mean

How much tyre tech plays in that is another debate

johno01

jaygsi

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Just found this on youtube

RAGGY DOO

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Why would you refund a whole map just because the dyno thing was off ?