TonyBurns

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Shunty,
sounds like that was a modified one you went up against, this guy made no impact on my 2nd-3rd gear change but we needed to slow down for traffic at just over 70mph, nothing in it upto there and he was trying before anyone asks

Tony

TonyBurns

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No he was heading towards it

Tony

HELLOM8

Yes they are fast and so they should be for the money. I don't like the look of em though, a bit grandad like.

shunty

hey Tony, I get where your coming from, just didn't want to say it he didn't pull anywhere near as much as I thought he would, 1st & 2nd gear was identical. They are very lardy, must be nearly 500kg's difference on a classic scoob....that would alter the power2weight ratio a tad methinks

shunty

shunty

oh and Tony - I forgot to ask what power figures is your scoob pushing out...you know you want to...

shunty

tittiecarcar

the scooby was trying hard that's for sure & like i said they were going up a hill, but there's no way the scooby could have stayed out in front once they started down the other side that rs was coming up very fast& over taking anthing in it's way to get there on the other hand , i dont think it's all about bhp it's if your willing to die to prove a point.by the look's of things last night the guy in the rs was, & had the bhp to do it.oh & its not all boy racers here some of us are girl racers

TonyBurns

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Shunty,
My car was pushing 249bhp at the time but it was up to approx 70mph and there was nothing in it (also a rolling start )
I just think he wanted to teach a subaru that his audi was a better car, thats why he looked soooooooooooo p155ed off afterwards

Tony

shunty

mind you I would love an S4 & then mod it......bit of a stealth car to the majority
scoob ALWAYS brings a smile to my face though & I think I will have one in the family for a few years to come, it's just some days I get a pit pi$$ed off with people never letting you in or pulling out in front on purpose...oh & the other most annoying thing is, if I do 3000-4000rpm in low gears, people look at me as if I am absolutly hammering it......full decat doesn't help though I suppose

shunty

HarryBoy

For what it's worth, when I first read this I thought, no way, who are you trying to kid that a Scooby can keep up with an RS4, but if you have a P1 or P1 performance then given the right gear, a favorable wind and some slick gear changing, it may just be possible to keep up or even be quicker.... compare top gear times 5th in P1 to 6th in RS4 and also 4th in P1 to 5th in RS4.... As for a standard UK spec. Scooby, forget it!

P1 vs M3 (new) vs RS4

6th 50-70 / 7.7 7.4
6th 60-80 / 7.6 6.3
6th 70-90 / 7.8 6.2
6th 80-100 / 8.3 6.9

5th 50-70 6.8 5.4 5.0
5th 60-80 5.7 5.4 3.9
5th 70-90 6.1 5.5 5.0
5th 80-100 6.5 5.7 6.4

4th 50-70 3.9 4.3 3.7
4th 60-80 4.0 4.3 3.8
4th 70-90 4.4 4.3 4.0
4th 80-100 5.0 4.5 4.3

3rd 30-50 3.6 3.0 3.5
3rd 40-60 3.0 2.9 3.0
3rd 50-70 2.9 2.9 3.0
3rd 60-80 3.3 2.9 3.2
3rd 70-90 4.0 3.0 3.4


30-70 4.8 4.1 4.2

All figures from Autocar

babber

Chins,

Lol, thought it would be long for you to appear.

In Trouts car we were losing him on the main straight and around the circuit my hesitating bag of ****e was going around the same speed, lol. Certainly not drivers (mine) ability

Cheers Phill C

Jacey Boy

Guys,

It comes down to the same old thinfg, you have to have something seriously quick to leave someone in the distance, I had a play with a New Noble M12 (I think thats the model), Twin Turbo V6, I was in a Civic Type R, he did NOT leave me, and I only had 197 horses.

TelBoy

Jacey, thing is he COULD have if he had wanted to.

Someone a while ago thought their Scoob was as fast as an Aston Martin Vantage, because he didn't disappear into the distance on a twisty country road. Yeah right.

No disrespect to a Civic Type R, but a Noble is a slightly different piece of kit, whether he ws demonstrating that to you or not on that particular occasion.

What a lot of people on here don't realise is that few people drive at 100% all of the time. Sure a lot of Scoob (and maybe Type R owners) do, as that's what the cars demand, but there are a surprising number of "ordinary" cars out there, which when driven well can trouble a car like yours or mine, we just don't see it very often, so believe our cars are invincible.

But when it comes to stuff like a Noble, i know when to give up gracefully!! But if he gave you a sporting chance for a bit of fun, then cool, it won't happen very often!

Jacey Boy

Sorry to say but he was trying, I had my window down and his turbo's where wisstling big time!.

Anyway I dont own a CTR now, I have a STi 7!!

Jacey Boy

Sorry to say but he was trying, I had my window down and his turbo's where wisstling big time!.

Anyway I dont own a CTR now, I have a STi 7!!

shunty

jasey - do you have 2 STI 7's

shunty

Jacey Boy

Shunty,

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Type_RA

Jacey 2 identical posts m8

Chins I dont know the top speed on my scoob I never go over 70 cus thats the law .

shunty

shunty

TonyBurns

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A Noble M12 GTO is capable of a 10 sec 0-100 time, 4.1 to 60mph, even i would give up on that with my lowly 210bhp per tonne to 321bhp per tonne (courtesy of evo mag ) it will well and truly whoop *** (my scoob even whoops sti7 *** so im happy (but only in straight lines )

Tony

ian_sadler

Chins,

Still waiting for my ride

Ian

Jacey Boy

You boys need to try harder, dont give up ya here me!, dont give up!!

VinnyP

The RS4 is very fast, had one on test, bit faster than mine on a motorway maybe at ridiculous speeds it is supposed to be limited to 155 but apparently can do more :-) My scoob quite well modded will still only do just over 155 because it's red lining in top and has that brick shaped front! Wouldn't do it much good to do that for long either (I didn't buy it for motorways, does anyone?). The RS4 is only stretching it's legs in 6th. It is an excellent Autobahn cruiser which is surprisingly good elsewhere given its limitations.
It handles like a big heavy estate car (it is 25% heavier than an STI 4) which has been very well sorted, it still ploughs on like a pig and has much less feedback or feel than any scooby I have driven. I may do a track day one day, I have driven on a track just not in my current car. I only drive the Scooby for fun, the closest I come with my meagre skills to pushing on is on twisty B roads, if I were driving both cars I recon I would have left the RS4 well behind before I modded my car, it was only 260PS out of the box I think.
As for modding an S4 I know they can make big power for not much, but I think the money would be much much better spent on suspension etc. Then you might as well have bought an RS4 in the first place once you take the depreciation into account. If it was my only car and I did a lot of miles or carried passengers, family etc then, I'd take the RS4 but I'd never have as much fun driving it as I do the Scoob.

R.B.5

I would say it is fairer to compare the Scooby with an S3 quattro as i've owned 2 of them and did pretty well against a few scoobs. They werent Wrx's though just UK spec cars and looked standard. The problem with audi's as you have all mentioned and seen on here is that they are heavy. The haldex system (4wd control computer) is crap too and just cuts power to the wheels far to much imo.

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Phil/Trout

What Bedford sesh was that? Was I there? I was at a couple & at the Autocar Subaru one there was an S2 Estate & an RS2 Estate - both were no competition ( ) though I thought the RS2 might provide some fun

babber

Puff, no you weren't there surprisingly mate. Shame really as I know you would have been biting Can't remember the date exactly, as it was last year!!

I hope your looking after the SO2s that came off my old company car ? The fourth one now forms part of a water feature in my Ex misses house, lol, it looks lovely with all the tread I might take a picture and post it later

Cheers Phill C

TonyBurns

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Jacey Boy,
trust me the Noble wasnt trying
I had a nova SR behind me one day on a duel carriageway, it was p155ing it down, the guy in the nova with all his passengers (4 people in the car) was trying ever so hard and keeping up, then again i was changing gear at less than 4k rpm, now if i would have gone to 6.5 i would have left him standing but as this idiot seemed intent on a death wish (lots of standing water and no abs/cr@p brakes etc) i wasnt going to let him go into the back of me/let him kill himself and his passengers (and the fact that it was a nova and no real competition )
The Noble wasnt trying, if he was he would have left you for dead basically, with 166bhp per tonne in your car and 321bhp per tonne in his/her car it would have been like watching a formula 3000 car v an F1 car, no competition at all.

Tony

shunty

/truthful_stir_mode_on

jacey - a standard STI 7 couldn't even keep up with me mate I KNOW I wouldn't stand a chance against a noble

/and_off

shunty

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Phil

Yup. The SO2s are just dandy thank you.

I had a puncture/repaired one with mega-tread from TN to make up the set & I put them on just before I went to France in June. Unfortunately the tracking was slightly out f/o/s & after 2500 there was a bit of wear on the i/side. I've had it sorted since.

Did a 20 min sesh @ Donno on them as well ( ) but I was taking it easy - eh cryptwalk?

Hope you're blinking well