Jacey Boy

Shunty,

What do you drive?, even if I had no chance I would still try, the guy could have been the sh*test driver on the earth and trying but only to his ability :@)

Maybe he was running the Turbo's in.....

shunty

Jacey - I drive a MY95 UK with what I would describe as minor engine mods compared to a few on this bbs

shunty

shunty

forgot to say, you definetly want PPP on the STI 7 to have a decent power2weight ratio...
has anyone got the bhp & weight & power2weight details out of interest on a standard STI 7 ??

shunty

Jacey Boy

Shunty,

Cant afford it, costs £2000 + £250 insurance cost :@(

shunty

I can't understand Subaru's aim with the STI 7, I mean why not give it at least power to weight ratio of 280 bhp import scoob (prob need 320 bhp), escpecially when competing with the EVO
Appreciate the cost for a PPP involved & obviously if it's new & under warranty etc....looks like it's October anyway before it arrives according to another thread.

Glad you took it the way it was meant, it pi$$es me off slightly that the "bug eye" era has a lot to answer for, I mean 17 seconds to 100 for a UK impreza is sh1te IMO no wonder we have TDI's & GTI's challenging all the fooken time.

shunty

Jacey Boy

Yea it puzzles me as well, why do they have to restrict the thing so much?, de-cat and apparently you are lookin at around 310bhp!

shunty

Jacey - STI 7 with full decat & PPP...now that would be nice

shunty

Jacey Boy

Ripper!!

swaussie

Have hands on experience as to what the RS4 is capable of on an Autobahn against my standard STi7 with 6000 miles on the clock. Pulled up for a p1ss and pulling back onto the Autobahn near Stuttgart I was behind the Audi and had no idea what I was in for. Kept up no probs in 2-3 and suspect thats when he looked in the mirror and saw me. Made me decide to race lorries from then on to help my bruised ego....

shunty

agreed the RS4 is very fast, problem is with threads like this, unless you know the driver of that particular car, you will never know if it has been modded etc.
So when we all say we have kept up with/beaten etc.....you get the picture. That's why my replies are a bit tounge-in-cheek because there will always be a guy who says "get on the track then" that's where the real driving gets done.
Still it gives us a rough idea I suppose of what to expect from other motors.

shunty

chrisp

Its not

PPP already contains a part decat so you arent going to get the gain twice .

shunty

shunty

Mog

Having owned a P1 and an RS4, take both cars and drivers of equal ability and the RS4 is in no doubt the faster car, but in an £ for £ equation the P1 is better. That said the build quality, paint, interior etc is miles ahead in the RS4. .................

babber

In fifth all the way around Bedford, I doubt that!!

I certainly used a range of gears, probably topping out at 125 mph ??

Was pleased with my car though

Cheers Phill C

PS Chins where are you

[Edited by babber - 9/10/2002 11:39:24 PM]

babber

Well, I'm just telling you what happened when I met an RS4 on a track last year!! Maybe I imagined in, but I think not

Surely these thing weigh a fair bit more than a Scooby so the power to weight ratio is closer than we might think ?

Cheers Phill C

PS I'm sure on a motorway then the RS4 would make me look silly, but less than 125 mph, I don't think they're quick

[Edited by babber - 9/11/2002 8:24:36 AM]

Arron

Scoob keeping up with an RS4=== DREAM DREAM DREAM.
I think you lot should wake up and smell that coffee.

Still £ for £ I guess the scoob wins there.

[Edited by Arron - 9/11/2002 9:14:24 AM]

chrisp

Soem people are seduced by bhp . An HGV has loads of bhp and torque but you wouldnt say they were blindingly quick .

An RS4 has about 15bhp/ton more than my classic RA (both in standard trim) but the RA has a close ratio sports box on top. If was expecting I huge leap forward in performance terms I maybe a tad disappointed and a lot lighter in the wallet .

[Edited by chrisp - 9/11/2002 1:12:22 PM]

Chins

Babber/Trout

Not going to bite too much on this one

The RS4 at Bedford was Merlin Purple. In my ride with Trout it stayed the same distance away which against Trouts modded STI I thought was damn impresive.

Thing is its down to driver ability and mods. The RS4 is not built for the track in std form. The std suspension is crap. Most owners swich their RS4 to Audi GMBH suspension. An RS4 will never win the most chuckable car award though.

In day to day driving the RS4 pisses all over a Scooby I'm afraid. Huge low down torque, low lag in the high gears combined with a great interior, lights, stereo etc. But it costs loads more and should win. A scooby should be compared to an S3 not an RS4.

For sheer grunt and accleration no STI or P1 can match an RS4. Its an engine to die for.

The Scooby might bring a bigger smile to your face, let you enjoy hard acceleration at legal speeds though and if its Chrisps RA, then you can enjoy its top speed of 80mph due to the gearing

Jonathan

Suprisingly driving an RS4 for the next few weeks

[Edited by Chins - 9/11/2002 1:15:08 PM]

daz b

Spend upto £46000 on sub+mod and that should re-address the problem

[Edited by daz b - 9/11/2002 2:17:47 PM]