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Old 18 October 2002, 03:16 PM
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you are not breaking the law if you undertake a lane of slow moving traffic and your lane is clear. It's in the highway code, read it.
Old 18 October 2002, 03:17 PM
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End of the story is this :-

That lane will NEVER be empty in a traffic situation, ever. Its sheer maddness to leave it empty!!!

There, Iam right
Old 18 October 2002, 03:17 PM
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Losers...!

Try it the 'Sipie Way'
Old 18 October 2002, 03:18 PM
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Highway code

No, I blatently swerve into the clear lane, blat it, shake my head at every body, and then swerve back!

Old 18 October 2002, 03:19 PM
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ROTFLMFAO Sipie that is brilliant It wouldn't surprise me either
Old 18 October 2002, 03:20 PM
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Love the sipie technique.

Best on a bike, just go past on the back wheel, shouting "LOSERS" to the drivers in their cages, and don't forget to flick the killswitch each time you see an especially nervous and harassed looking old biddy with a homocidal 3-series driver trying to force their way in.

bros

jeez I can't spell today

[Edited by bros2 - 10/18/2002 3:21:07 PM]
Old 18 October 2002, 03:25 PM
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LOL @ SiPie manouver...

But watch out for this



Old 18 October 2002, 03:27 PM
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**** thats a big lorry!!, takes up two lanes!!!
Old 18 October 2002, 03:28 PM
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Hence 'wide load'
Old 18 October 2002, 03:28 PM
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Rich S

You just had to spoil my fun didn't you
Old 18 October 2002, 03:30 PM
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SB - Most people working for a local authority hate it too!

I'm sure you're not one of 'THEM'.... I think you know who I mean
Old 18 October 2002, 03:35 PM
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LOL sorry mate...

Perhaps I should have changed your name to mine in the pic - then it would show what typically happens to Rich when he tries to take short cuts...
Old 18 October 2002, 03:38 PM
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Can I volunteer this thread to the *SN Hall of Fame*?

This has really made my Friday. Before Saxo obstructed loads of people from going about their lawful business I was hung over and pretty bored . Now the girls in the office think I've gone deranged as I've spent the afternoon bursting into hysterical laughter. In fact, this is almost as good as going to the pub at midday and having to get my little brother to drive me home due to my advanced state of inebriation, which is what normally happens on a Friday. Good on you, the lot of you. Award yourselves many many of the proposed SN 'ranking' points
Old 18 October 2002, 03:42 PM
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Theres probably 30 people in Edinburgh on different internet sites typing :

"Yeah, that little prostate in the Subaru this morning blocking the outside lane!, he made me 3 minutes late for work"

Indeed - fair play SB - youve now got me further behind in my work as Ive been on here all afternoon
Old 18 October 2002, 03:43 PM
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Before Saxo obstructed loads of people from going about their lawful business
He, he

Probably a good thing the old rating system isn't up and running yet. I'd probably have 'total jerk' next to my name with half of scoobynet voting to have me lynched

BTW I've done **** all work today as well
Old 18 October 2002, 03:48 PM
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My thoughts on this are pretty much the same as SB's but I've just kinda accepted it now. It just gets me wound up and in a bad mood if I think about it! In situations like that I think it's only fair that cars should be let in one at a time. Kinda alternate. What really naffs me off is I let one car in and that seems to give all the others cue to nearly take out my front end to get in as well. Then, theres the majority of women (I'm sad to say and i'm not sterotyping, it's just an observation) who look straight ahead and attach themselves to the car infront and point blank refuse to let anyone in. They even block junctions so as to stop potential 'que jumpers'. It's pathetic. It's also pathetic that i'm tarred with the same brush as them. A terrible woman driver. I'm not!! Instead of getting wound up bout it (like i'm managing to do to myself at the moment!) everyone ought to learn to chill out. Pressure means that we need to be places at certain times which is stressful and other peoples bad driving is emmensely annoying but we should all learn to try chilling out a little. We will all end up in early graves if we carry on getting so wound up! I shall now step down from my soap box!!
Old 18 October 2002, 03:55 PM
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Yeah, that little prostate in the Subaru this morning blocking the outside lane!, he made me 3 minutes late for work
yeah but they are probably posting that on www.stress-management.com and www.bwm-driver.com or maybe www.rage-against-the-motorists.com
Old 18 October 2002, 04:06 PM
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Here is the BMW technique ;-)

(yes I do drive a BMW!)

Old 18 October 2002, 04:11 PM
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Perhaps I should have changed your name to mine in the pic - then it would
show what typically happens to Rich when he tries to take short cuts..
I'm saying nothing about your "shortcuts", Rich!


Old 18 October 2002, 04:22 PM
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ajm do you live in Edinburgh? The reason I ask is that your technique is possible. You've shown your line going into Braid Park through the double gates and coming out the other gates at the end. If you actually did that, I'd p1ss myself laughing
Old 18 October 2002, 04:25 PM
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Saxo,

ha ha ha! No I'm afraid I don't... it was just a good guess! Hope I havn't given you any ideas.....
Old 18 October 2002, 04:27 PM
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A few titbits from the highway code.

Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.

Do not hold up a long queue of traffic

Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
Old 18 October 2002, 04:27 PM
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End of the saga????..............................
Old 18 October 2002, 04:37 PM
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Not yet.
I've read this thread in amazement. The only concrete thing that can be learned from it is this.
SB - Whether right or wrong(I don't have an opinion on this) I would make sure I didn't post about stuff like this again. You'll just get aggro so whats the point of wasting your own time and getting stick.
I love all the holier than thou posts - they would never do anything illegal on the road.
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Old 18 October 2002, 04:41 PM
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I have to thank SB for this thread as its been the best one Ive posted on for a while, genuine good disagreement without people falling out!!

And as it turned out SB was wrong

Kidding mate

(but you were )

Edited as Iam retarded and cant type!!

[Edited by TomM - 10/18/2002 4:42:25 PM]
Old 18 October 2002, 04:42 PM
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Reading this thread has cheered me up no end. There's no massive animosity, just friendly banter, and SB's handled everything impeccably. Just brilliant
Old 18 October 2002, 05:02 PM
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Exactly the way it should be on scoobynet, and refreshing too see spirit still alive and well.....

Good weekend all
Old 18 October 2002, 05:12 PM
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I was right

Who knows, opinion is a little split

I've enjoyed the thread too and don't regret posting it but, John F it seems to me quoting the highway code has totally fecked your argument??


If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass.
This relates to overtaking and is therefore relative to preventing people hogging the outside lane. We are talking about undertaking or passing on the left which the next paragraph relates to IMO...

Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right
This seems to suggest it is ok to pass a vehicle on the left if two lanes of traffic have formed but are moving at a different speed. It does not suggest to me that you are allowed to overtake (i prefer the word undertake) people if the left hand lane is devoid of traffic and this is backed up by the line...

Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake
My reading of it is that this line sets the tone/policy but that an exception is spelled out in part that followed, i.e. congested situations where traffic has formed in both lanes. Had two ques formed and the left hand lane was moving faster then fair enough, this happens all the time on bypasses, etc. This was not the case and cars were moving into the left lane, increasing to 30mph to pass a large number of cars, and then coming back in (all for their own gain). This to me is overtaking, not passing on the left and is not supported by the quoted paragraphs of the highway code

In my circumstance traffic had not formed in both lanes (for reasons I tried to outline pages ago) and as such I do not see how these drivers could apply the normal get out clause of a slower moving lane. FWIW a que didn't actually form behind me until I was ready to merge back in so strickly speaking I didn't hold up a long que of traffic and therefore didn't break the law on this occasion

I'm right

Any traffic cops kicking around with an opinion?


Old 18 October 2002, 05:14 PM
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Saxo - Iam a traffic cop.

SO IAM FECKING RIGHT!!!
Old 18 October 2002, 05:20 PM
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really?


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