2.2 legacy convertion to a wrx impreza
23 December 2002, 04:42 PM
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well well guys how lucky am i the engine has been ported and flowed lightened flywheel perfomance pulleys cams rods etc.i dont
think that guy sold it to me even new.so we can chuck the 2.2 idea out the window.thats why it was so quick.saved me a fortune!!.
think that guy sold it to me even new.so we can chuck the 2.2 idea out the window.thats why it was so quick.saved me a fortune!!.
23 December 2002, 05:22 PM
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we compared the performance with my mechanics freinds p1 and there is not much diffrence apart from my car revs are higher it seems to be a little quicker over 60mph.i needed a new clutch so we did
a quick look at pulleys and started from there. my car is a sti 2 ecu (260bhp)it is the only answer it could possibly be there is no way it would be anywhere near as quick as a p1.
a quick look at pulleys and started from there. my car is a sti 2 ecu (260bhp)it is the only answer it could possibly be there is no way it would be anywhere near as quick as a p1.
23 December 2002, 05:23 PM
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Thomo, do you believe everything people tell you??? When you do learn to read, just tell us what it says on the block, though I dont really think any 1 cares anymore.
And are P1's so quick, that nothing could go faster????
What next ?????
[Edited by ustolemyname??stevieturbo - 12/23/2002 5:25:12 PM]
And are P1's so quick, that nothing could go faster????
What next ?????
[Edited by ustolemyname??stevieturbo - 12/23/2002 5:25:12 PM]
23 December 2002, 06:26 PM
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Thomo,
I think people are interested in what block you have, because of the TOPIC YOU POSTED !!!!
1st you tell us you DEFINATELY have a 2.2lt, now you have an engine with up rated internals, ported heads, up rated cams, etc'.
Basically, you have NO IDEA what you have. The guy who told you he fitted a 2.2lt, has obviously misled you, now you're being told the engine must be up rated.
I'm glad you're happy with whatever engine you have, but if you're going to post information, recommending people do the same as you, at least make sure the information is accurate !!!!
Mark.
I think people are interested in what block you have, because of the TOPIC YOU POSTED !!!!
1st you tell us you DEFINATELY have a 2.2lt, now you have an engine with up rated internals, ported heads, up rated cams, etc'.
Basically, you have NO IDEA what you have. The guy who told you he fitted a 2.2lt, has obviously misled you, now you're being told the engine must be up rated.
I'm glad you're happy with whatever engine you have, but if you're going to post information, recommending people do the same as you, at least make sure the information is accurate !!!!
Mark.
23 December 2002, 07:39 PM
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For Banzai Magazines Scooby shoot out my 94 WRX with just an exhaust,induction kit and 1 bar boost was quisker than a P1 0 -60, 0 - 100 & 1/4 mile. It ws also quicker than a modified 22b 0 - 100. Does this also mean I have got uprated rods, pistons, pulleys etc, if so it is also going to save me alot of money and Marks going to loose an order 
As my Scooby was rolling roaded a couple of days later with 265 bhp and 260 lbft, I do not think so, it was just a case of me being more willing to drive my Scooby that bit harder than the other drivers. Do you not think that could be your case with your comparison, on the road a 260 bhp WRX with an exhaust and air filter would be very similar performance wise to a 280 bhp P1.
Colin
As my Scooby was rolling roaded a couple of days later with 265 bhp and 260 lbft, I do not think so, it was just a case of me being more willing to drive my Scooby that bit harder than the other drivers. Do you not think that could be your case with your comparison, on the road a 260 bhp WRX with an exhaust and air filter would be very similar performance wise to a 280 bhp P1.
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23 December 2002, 08:44 PM
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Heh heh..you could use up that extra 20bhp in the P1 by just being a lard bucket and having a pint of guiness and a whoel hock of ham for lunch!
Death by meat! Death by meat!
Get out of the pub and into a P1 and watch the power be sucked up by the extra tonnage of driver
Seriously, Thomo, all you've done is alienate a whole bunch of pretty knowledgeable guys: If you wanna come on and talk tech you really need to know when to admit you are wrong or have plenty of facts to hand, or be prepared to go and get them (everyone on here will wait.....if there is one thing scoobynetters seem to love it is an empassioned debate!
For proof, check out the forum "Slagging match...er....I mean General").
Everyone can learn SOMEthing from someone on this board. That is surely the whole point?
Death by meat! Death by meat!
Get out of the pub and into a P1 and watch the power be sucked up by the extra tonnage of driver
Seriously, Thomo, all you've done is alienate a whole bunch of pretty knowledgeable guys: If you wanna come on and talk tech you really need to know when to admit you are wrong or have plenty of facts to hand, or be prepared to go and get them (everyone on here will wait.....if there is one thing scoobynetters seem to love it is an empassioned debate!
For proof, check out the forum "Slagging match...er....I mean General").Everyone can learn SOMEthing from someone on this board. That is surely the whole point?
23 December 2002, 10:10 PM
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"well well guys how lucky am i the engine has been ported and flowed lightened flywheel perfomance pulleys cams rods etc"
is it just me or are gas flowed engines for NA cars? I thought they raised the compression which is a definate nono on a turbo car.
As for the legacy lump being quicker im again sceptical, the 2.2 litre bit is good, but ive heard the engines themselves are a bit poo and its only the slightly larger displacement that scooby tuners like. Ive got a 2.2 stroker kit in my wrx and it does make a decent difference, but thats without the legacy sequential turbo ****e
is it just me or are gas flowed engines for NA cars? I thought they raised the compression which is a definate nono on a turbo car.
As for the legacy lump being quicker im again sceptical, the 2.2 litre bit is good, but ive heard the engines themselves are a bit poo and its only the slightly larger displacement that scooby tuners like. Ive got a 2.2 stroker kit in my wrx and it does make a decent difference, but thats without the legacy sequential turbo ****e
23 December 2002, 10:13 PM
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LOL @ Xmas shopping....how true
But it has about as much relevevance to this thread as your 2.2 Stage 54.3, super turbo, mega cam, big bore 8 engine does...
Does it have nitrous too??? or maybe nitro-methane fuelled?? thats why its just so fast.
I have a funny feeling that my mini would destroy your car, and I KNOW it is only a 1.3.
Perhaps this should go to the muppets soon.
[Edited by ustolemyname??stevieturbo - 12/23/2002 10:15:57 PM]
But it has about as much relevevance to this thread as your 2.2 Stage 54.3, super turbo, mega cam, big bore 8 engine does...
Does it have nitrous too??? or maybe nitro-methane fuelled?? thats why its just so fast.
I have a funny feeling that my mini would destroy your car, and I KNOW it is only a 1.3.
Perhaps this should go to the muppets soon.
[Edited by ustolemyname??stevieturbo - 12/23/2002 10:15:57 PM]
23 December 2002, 10:33 PM
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2.2 Stage 54.3, super turbo, mega cam, big bore 8 engine
I know..while we are transplanting engines....
Why not just 'drop in' a Paxman Valenta diesel engine.
This is a straight 12 turbo diesel (turbo is the size of barnstable) with a displacement of 79.5 litres!!!
Each one can rev to 1500rpms and produce 1200bhp and more torque than we have numbers to describe. You normally find them in HSTs (That's an intercity 125 train to you and me) and in pairs to produce 2400bhp.
If possible, we could get your mechanic to uprate the cams and pulleys and gas flow and port it too....and then we could go drag racing in a diesel! Yeah!
Ok Ok...maybe I HAVE done too much xmas shopping.......
24 December 2002, 12:06 AM
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its got a front lsd as well because it doesnt wheelspin as much as a std uk.
FFS...
open you bonnet... let me know the following...
the rough percentage of oli / muck under the bonnet.
the bit stamped on the block EJ20 or EJ25 etc..
The colour of the battery
The colour of the pipes...
Rough shade of the oil...
I can then tell you what rods, stroke, cam duration, compression ratio, fuel consumption, 0 - 60, 0 - 100, 1/4mile just by the above figures
isnt it?
Or is it simply that your fu11 of **** and its really just a sport? if not ffs.. just prove it..
(ps rods dont make your car any faster... or more powerfull (Dont even bother mark, paul, andy, stevie..)
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FFS...
open you bonnet... let me know the following...
the rough percentage of oli / muck under the bonnet.
the bit stamped on the block EJ20 or EJ25 etc..
The colour of the battery
The colour of the pipes...
Rough shade of the oil...
I can then tell you what rods, stroke, cam duration, compression ratio, fuel consumption, 0 - 60, 0 - 100, 1/4mile just by the above figures
isnt it?Or is it simply that your fu11 of **** and its really just a sport? if not ffs.. just prove it..
(ps rods dont make your car any faster... or more powerfull (Dont even bother mark, paul, andy, stevie..)
David
24 December 2002, 10:45 AM
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lol he cant have a fast car protest .it just gets better
whatever it said on the engine would that mean its not ported and flowed would it mean its not had a 2.2 convertion ? please tell me
how would you know theres a lot of SUPERMANS in here.
WE TRIED TO FIND THE ALTERNATIVES BEARING INMIND THAT I HAVE A STI 2 ECU.AND NOW IVE FIND OUT WHAT IT IS. MEOOOOOOW CAT LOVERS
whatever it said on the engine would that mean its not ported and flowed would it mean its not had a 2.2 convertion ? please tell me
how would you know theres a lot of SUPERMANS in here.
WE TRIED TO FIND THE ALTERNATIVES BEARING INMIND THAT I HAVE A STI 2 ECU.AND NOW IVE FIND OUT WHAT IT IS. MEOOOOOOW CAT LOVERS
24 December 2002, 10:57 AM
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Hello... Wake Up..
So I dont know what Im on about then?
What would you like to know about your ecu... I know nothing? www.scoobyecu.co.uk
as someone said.. tell us what it says on the block as that will tell us what it is
Can someone move this to muppets as its a joke now..
Theres me wondering where all the good technical threads have gone..
David
[Edited by David_Wallis - 12/24/2002 10:57:46 AM]
So I dont know what Im on about then?
What would you like to know about your ecu... I know nothing? www.scoobyecu.co.uk
as someone said.. tell us what it says on the block as that will tell us what it is
Can someone move this to muppets as its a joke now..
Theres me wondering where all the good technical threads have gone..
David
[Edited by David_Wallis - 12/24/2002 10:57:46 AM]
24 December 2002, 10:59 AM
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oh.. and if it is a 2.2 conversion...
id guess its running lean with that ecu..
No we wont do a remap.. they only work on real cars not fictional ones.
David
End of thread!
id guess its running lean with that ecu..
No we wont do a remap.. they only work on real cars not fictional ones.
David
End of thread!
24 December 2002, 10:59 AM
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Interesting thread here guys. Seems to be a lot of knowledgable (sp) people asking some simple questions of you Mr. Thomo. Why are you avoiding answering them and acting childish with your answers? Everyone is just interested in what you have under your bonnet as they will then be able to help you with the facts about your car. Go and have a look and put us all in the light!
Dan - Merry Christmas everyone!
Dan - Merry Christmas everyone!
24 December 2002, 01:03 PM
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dan 4 im only winding them up. some of these guys have knowledge i agree and some just refuse to acknowledge that its been ported flowed etc.first thoughts where 2.2 granted wrong not me but my mechanic . for the simple reason he was told it was . weve all driven 280bhp imprezas this was not the same at all.dyno reading is a must of course tried to take it to chesterfield two weeks ago
couldnt go.the only car we could compare it with was a a p1 with down pipe filter and a few other small mods. and we know that the p1 had dynode at 302 bhp bearing in mind that we think the car is slightly quicker than the p1. is slightly quicker 5 10 15 bhp more who knows ENGINE STAMP IS EJ20 84BB.WHAT WOULD I GAIN FROM LYING IM TRYING TO FINDOUT WETHER ALL £££ SPENT ON MODS IS REALLY THAT WORTH IT.I HEARD A LOT OF GOOD FACTS ABOUT THE LEGACY ENGINE THATS WHY I BOUGHT ONE .POWER ENGINEERING, GRADE A ,STEVE SIMPSON I SUPPOSE THEY DONT KNOW TO MUCH.anyway im getting drunk happy christmas all.
couldnt go.the only car we could compare it with was a a p1 with down pipe filter and a few other small mods. and we know that the p1 had dynode at 302 bhp bearing in mind that we think the car is slightly quicker than the p1. is slightly quicker 5 10 15 bhp more who knows ENGINE STAMP IS EJ20 84BB.WHAT WOULD I GAIN FROM LYING IM TRYING TO FINDOUT WETHER ALL £££ SPENT ON MODS IS REALLY THAT WORTH IT.I HEARD A LOT OF GOOD FACTS ABOUT THE LEGACY ENGINE THATS WHY I BOUGHT ONE .POWER ENGINEERING, GRADE A ,STEVE SIMPSON I SUPPOSE THEY DONT KNOW TO MUCH.anyway im getting drunk happy christmas all.
24 December 2002, 01:20 PM
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No 1 disagreed that it could have been ported or otherwise. This thread was started about a 2.2 conversion, which most agreed on the info you provided was probably a load of rubbish. You then changed the story about your engine, and the reason it being so fast, was that it had been "ported and flowed" etc, of course not forgetting that spectacular sti2 ecu you keep mentioning.
So, it now seems everyone here, except you was right, and it was always a 2.0.
But heaven knows why a legacy engine is suddenly so much better than an impreza engine. Are you still suggesting we should all go buy legacy engines??? Any particular year or model we should be looking for???
Id really like my car to be as fast as yours.
BTW you are wanting to know was all the money you spent worth it?? You say £900 for the conversion ( Whatever the conversion actually was ). Well, I would have to say, that if someone has given you a replacement engine, stripped it, ported the cylinder heads, and perhaps also modified some other bits too, all for £900 then you have got the bargain of the century ( not forgetting the STI 2 ecu into the bargain )
And as for the final comment, again, no 1 questioned either PE, Grade A, or Steve Simpson, as until now their names were never mentioned. You were the one who was spouting out crap on scoobynet, none of the people you mention
Happy Christmas anyway
[Edited by ustolemyname??stevieturbo - 12/24/2002 4:44:08 PM]
So, it now seems everyone here, except you was right, and it was always a 2.0.
But heaven knows why a legacy engine is suddenly so much better than an impreza engine. Are you still suggesting we should all go buy legacy engines??? Any particular year or model we should be looking for???
Id really like my car to be as fast as yours.
BTW you are wanting to know was all the money you spent worth it?? You say £900 for the conversion ( Whatever the conversion actually was ). Well, I would have to say, that if someone has given you a replacement engine, stripped it, ported the cylinder heads, and perhaps also modified some other bits too, all for £900 then you have got the bargain of the century ( not forgetting the STI 2 ecu into the bargain )
And as for the final comment, again, no 1 questioned either PE, Grade A, or Steve Simpson, as until now their names were never mentioned. You were the one who was spouting out crap on scoobynet, none of the people you mention
Happy Christmas anyway
[Edited by ustolemyname??stevieturbo - 12/24/2002 4:44:08 PM]
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