MarkO

Where did I say that taking drugs or adultery/prostitutes is wrong? I believe I just mentioned that it's not suitable for a television presenter.
"Do as I say, not as I do"

Mice_Elf

There are a couple of roundabouts to negotiate, but 82 is not "going a bit" on the vast majority of that section of motorway. Unless you're thinking of the twisty bend by Kelpie's Marina...?

bros2

[/quote]There are a couple of roundabouts to negotiate, but 82 is not "going a bit" on the vast majority of that section of motorway. Unless you're thinking of the twisty bend by Kelpie's Marina...? [/quote]

Doing 82mph ... on the twisties ... in a Marina?

bros

bros2

And another thing, how on earth do I reply with quotes? Must be a simple way of doing it

bros

MarkO

Exactly as you did it before, but drop the / from the first tag.

Click 'edit' on one of my quoted posts to see....

Hoppy

MarkO, a little off topic but you said of Deayton that "The issue... is not the adultery or the use of prostitutes - that's his business. It's the drugs that are the issue for me."

So what is okay for a TV presenter and what is okay for someone caught speeding?

No need to answer that one, we all have different views and I struggle with my own most days with teenage kids. "Do as I say, not as I do" is one of my favourites, too

On speeding, I am in no position to preach and the stretch of the A1 in question is one of my favourites. The Marina especially. This is where the hypocricy comes in - it's fine for me to go through there at whatever speed I like, but I would be seriously worried about a knackered old Fiesta going through there at 82mph. In fact, it wouldn't make it

Best regards,

Richard.

S55 HOT

Some of the A1 further north drops to a 50 limit for a while with 2 cameras each side - if it was there, then 82 is a bit more serious.........

TelBoy

Also Mark, a serious question (for once).

How does two people admitting guilt for a speeding ticket force the police to drop the charge?

Sorry, but i don't believe that. You'd be more likely to be done with perverting the course of justice than having a speeding fine dropped. Where did you get that information from?

MarkO

I got the information from a traffic officer on the UK Traffic Law list. Basically, if there is a question about who was driving on a particular day, both drivers put their hands up to it. Unless the police can specifically prove that it was one driver and not the other, the case will have to be dropped because UK law (quite rightly) says that two people cannot be convicted for the same crime.

Obviously it would mean you'd have to be pretty sure that the two drivers were indisinguishable, and they'd both have to stick to their guns and insist they were the ones who were driving on the day in question.

As for perverting the course of justice, how can that be the case if there is a question of who was driving and both drivers genuinely believe they were behind the wheel on the relevant day? It's no different to all drivers denying involvement - nobody gets done for perverting the course of justice then, do they?

I'm told it would work, and it sounded plausible at the time, but TBH I wouldn't be willing to try it myself.

TelBoy

Hmmm, i guess if both drivers genuinely believed it could have been them then yes, i suppose there could be a case. Would be interesting to see if the police pursued it, and to what lengths, after all, they COULD prove it beyond doubt in 99.9% of all cases i would have thought.

Interesting concept. File under "Good Idea When You're Drunk"

marty_t3

Marko is probably not far off the truth there. Police cannot charge a motorcyclist for speeding if he is riding with other motorcyclists. The police have no way of proving which rider was the one who committed the offence.

TelBoy

Marty, it just sounds like dodgy ground.

A bit of an urban myth methinks. I am SURE the police have encountered this many times, and they must have a procedure for dealing with it. Dropping the charge, i am assuming, is not that procedure.

MarkO

Seems to me like it might be worth a shot though, on the basis that you've got nothing to lose. i.e., if the police can prove who it was, then you're no worse off than usual. If they can't, then it might just work.

RaZe-=Buzz=-

EDITED to say "referring to the motorcyclists, cos the forum ****** got in while I was composing" :

except there have been cases of them doing a group for "excess speed" in general, and not a specific speeding offence, if I remember correctly - "you were all doing the same speed, me and my mate saw you" sort of thing. Perhaps Burr could tell us if thats still allowed in this enlightened "Human Rights" period of time

Anyway. Im off to do 90 through the town in a stolen bus. Im BOUND to get away with it, as long as its a stolen bus and not my own :P

[Edited by RaZe-=Buzz=- - 10/30/2002 4:21:42 PM]

marty_t3

Tel,

It has happened with motorcyclists. My old bike intructor was pulled over with a group of 'students'. The police officer could not charge any of them because he could not specify which of the bikes was the one clocked by the speed gun.

It also (allegedly) happened to an aquaintance of mine where he and a friend were pulled over (again by a policeman with a radar gun) and the police could not say which of them was commiting the offence. In both cases they were let off with a caution.

I guess it's the same principal as getting off with a speeding ticket if there is someone sitting in the lane next to you when the camera goes off.