TelBoy

Lisa, exactly. The car will go if necessary.

Wasn't that always the conclusion?

You'll never do anything as meaningful as have another kid.

You'll never do anything as comparitively meaningless as run a Scoob.

Terry

ScoobyDoo555

I'm, in essence, aggreeing with you Mark

However, let's be honest, the last thing that will be repossessed, is the house

I've had some debt problems (due to redundancy), ironically, about 3 months into Scoob ownership (came out of the blue too ), and NOBODY (outside of the family) could have given a t0ss..... Since then, I have always worked on the principle that if I get myself into the ****, the only person who can get me out of it, is ME.


"You reap what you sow" an all that bollox....

Dan

beemerboy

RedDog.
Have another sprog now, while you still can.

before the sweats and hot blushes start!!!

you can buy a scooby when your older!! just ask Tiggs!!

BB

red_dog104

LOL at Beemerboy!

Squizz

Genetic science is wonderful these days...

Go see Dr.Winston and ask him to play with yer fellas spurty-stuff and hopefully you'll sprog a healthy 22B.

Right?

red_dog104

marty_t3

red_dog

Just make sure that you keep the scoob at least till after the kid is born. The kid will resent you forever if you deny it it's chance to be driven home from the hospital in a scoob
( I just want my kid to have it's first ever car ride in an impreza )

red_dog104

marty_t3

"( I just want my kid to have it's first ever car ride in an impreza ) "

I thought we weren't telling anyone about us LOL!!!!

beemerboy

...and who's fault is that.....YOURS!!!

BB

ScoobyDoo555

Exactly!!

You are responsible for your own actions

Dan

beemerboy

so why post them then...???

is it martyrism???

BB

gareth123

"entitled to tax credits" - there *is* the problem, nonparents subsidising parents. Pay less tax if you're a parent? WTF?

I'll add that sponging nannystate crap to my list of reasons not to return to the UK.

south-star

I dont.Why shouldnt people on a lower income have some luxuries in life....

bros2

Er, have you not noticed that you can claim tax relief on childcare costs in the States ... thus reducing the tax bill for, well, parents?

bros

beemerboy

nah, they should all smoke roll ups and drink tennants super!!!
in their council homes (if they havent already bought them, sold them and pi55ed up the profits!!!!)

there is a difference between people on low income and workshy blaggers!!!!!

BB

gareth123

Yes I have noticed. More than slightly different as it's against actual costs not a simple handout that could be spent on, oooh let's say, running a sports car instead.

How about looking after yourself for a change? If you want something (child/Impreza/whatever) but can't afford it then tough. I don't see why I should subsidise other people's wants.

You are right to point out that there is a degree of sponging nannystate in the US (esp. California) but it is miles behind the bwah-bwah-beg-beg-someone-else-provide-for-me UK.

Sith

For me it's an easy decision. There are more than enough people already on this planet. I'd keep the car. Never been into this ooooooohhhh it's a baby lark. Just little sacks of flesh that feed off the wallet for goodness knows how many years.

People at work keep going on about how their kid has done this and that and it bores me senseless.

beemerboy

Sith,
i guess ultimately it takes 2 to make a child, so i think you'll be safe.

BB

bros2

Irrelevant surely - still no-parents subsididing parents.

Having said that, I've only had private medical treatment in the last ten years, so I'm subsidising ill people. And my kids go to private schoools so I'm subsidising state scholars. I don't smoke, so I'm subsidising those who are dying of lung cancer. I'm not a criminal but I have to pay for those in prison. I've never claimed dole but I pay for those who do .....I could go on.

And yet I don't really resent it. It's called social justice, and without (at least some form of) redistribution there would be anarchy, a state I'd rather not live in.

Yes, Britain has many crappy things about it, but give me this or California, and I'd choose the former.

bros

Jay m A

iTrader: (2)

How about people get paid by the government for NOT having a child?

Then the so called selfish spongers will work out its more beneficial to them to not have children, which in the long term may benefit the whole of society...

ScoobyDoo555

BeemerBoy,

I posted it just to state the fact that I, like most other people, are/have been in the same situation

My thoughts exactly.

Seamus300

My opinions only...
Up until a few months ago my wife had an RB5 and I had a UK300. We discovered she was pregnant and both cars went within a month. I could have afforded to keep them but the point is they were basically a serious waste of money. Just a car, pure and simple. There really is no decision to be made in my eyes. I run a 3 series diesel and she has a Golf TDi and it has saved around 400 a month in fuel alone, 1.4K a year in insurance, 100's in servicing etc etc. At the end of the day it all depends on your personal priorities.

Brendan Hughes

Lisa, you say you want a bit of freedom back. Let me put it the other way round; I have a 14 yr old son (by marriage), and my wife and I would partly like to have a new kid together, but she sees total freedom about 4 years away and isn't too impressed at the idea of being "imprisoned" for another 20 years.

So if you put off having another child until later, you put off your total freedom until later. After your current respite, with your one going to school in the days and giving you a break, at what point will you be happy to return to the sleepless nights, nappy changing, 24-hour crying?

Sith

Beemerboy - How did you guess I was single..

mbc

why have a baby if you gonna get someone else to look after it monday to friday?

dsmith

For the Tax credits ?

gareth123

It's called socialism and it sucks for those who accept responsibility for their own lives.

There's a big difference between my taxes being used to stop people starving or living on the street, and being used so people don't have to give up their expensive-to-run car when they choose to have children. FFS - since when did breeding deserve a more generous attitude from the taxman?!

marty_t3

Has everyone missed the point of the family tax credit here???

It's not just for scooby drivers... it's for EVERYONE. Even if i sell my scoob when the sprog is born, i'll still get tax credit.
I've earned that tax credit by conforming to tax laws and paying my income tax for the last 13 years.

I already pay for my car. Any tax credits i get will be an addition to the money i put aside for the kid, NOT used to pay for me to drive around in a sports car. The compromises i make to support my family are my business. Just because someone drives a scoob and has the opportunity to claim tax credit doesn't mean they haven't cut back on their spending elsewhere.

I think some folk here need to get off thier high horse and ask themselves the question, "when i have a kid to support will i refuse the tax credit when it's offered to me?"

marty_t3

Has anyone thought about what the government are trying to do with the tax credit scheme?

They are investing in children. The same children who will be paying taxes to look after your sorry a55es when you're too old to support yourself and have no children of your own to help you out.

gareth123

No, it's not for EVERYONE, it's for breeding people only. You've 'earned' that tax credit by breeding, anything else is irrelevant - or can I, currently a nonbreeder, get it too? No, thought not.