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26 November 2002, 12:30 AM
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Bottom line figures are irrelevant, four people on the same salary can have vastly different take home pay.
But whilst were in an investigative mode pop round an ask a Paramedic, who doesn't get paid to sleep, to show you his basic.
But whilst were in an investigative mode pop round an ask a Paramedic, who doesn't get paid to sleep, to show you his basic.
26 November 2002, 12:31 AM
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BTW at least half the Firefighters I spoke to today did serve in the armed forces ,Falklands ,Middle East ,and other places
.Their quote," been their done it " what ever that means ? Edited to add Paramedics ,totally underpaid,undervalued,**** on,but are they next?
[Edited by rallycol - 11/26/2002 12:36:14 AM]
.Their quote," been their done it " what ever that means ? Edited to add Paramedics ,totally underpaid,undervalued,**** on,but are they next?[Edited by rallycol - 11/26/2002 12:36:14 AM]
26 November 2002, 12:45 AM
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I don't care what anyone else says but that after 18 years of service is a diabolical financial reward for that length of service and commitment
but if the above was the case then would you expect the guy who collects the trolleys in a tesco car park to make more than 21k a year after 18 years of service too? If they have been in the same job an have not advanced or been promoted for 18 years then i don't think they do deserve that much of a raise.Granted, they do deserve a chance for improved earning within the service. However, I'd expect them to earn it through additional training, experience, promotion, improved efficiency, modernization, etc.
Threatening the public in an attempt to blackmail their employer is not a valid reason for a payrise.
26 November 2002, 12:48 AM
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Marty thats what he has ended up with after 18 years of working and any promotion!
I don't think collecting trolleys in a supermarket is comaprable, altho could be considered bloody dangerous with all those women drivers about
U can pick holes all day long, I wouldnt have anything to reply to if u didnt
I don't think collecting trolleys in a supermarket is comaprable, altho could be considered bloody dangerous with all those women drivers about
U can pick holes all day long, I wouldnt have anything to reply to if u didnt
26 November 2002, 01:04 AM
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OK Bravo even though we agree with each other
How do you take home a little over a grand, run a new car keep a wife plus two kids and live in a house worth £150k+
Drive to Le Man having worked a 12 hour night shift and return directly to work having driven back during the night?
To paraphrase Rolf Harris, do you know what he does yet?
How do you take home a little over a grand, run a new car keep a wife plus two kids and live in a house worth £150k+
Drive to Le Man having worked a 12 hour night shift and return directly to work having driven back during the night?
To paraphrase Rolf Harris, do you know what he does yet?
26 November 2002, 01:07 AM
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banshi there not on 1 grand for ***** sake the union bloke said in public there on over 20000 a year and that was on the strike program on the telly so were your getin that rubish from i dont know
26 November 2002, 01:23 AM
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lol @ Bravo
Easy Stevie, not my fictitious figs m8
I forget to mention the cottage and barn conversion in Brittany. Oh to be exploited by my employer and consigned to a life of poverty
Easy Stevie, not my fictitious figs m8
I was shown a wage slip from last month, a firefighter after 18 years service (which is the maximum /top line pay after 15 years) net pay is £1100
26 November 2002, 07:33 AM
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banshi, jealousy will get you everywhere. NOW the penny drops
Maybe your neighbour was left money by their parents? Who knows, why not ask them
Second jobs. Some consultants, MDs etc have them, ooooooo but not the "working class", eh
And, au contraire Banshi, glad I have exerted some influence on you. We Agree 16% in return for modernisation
Paramedics deserve more of course
Maybe your neighbour was left money by their parents? Who knows, why not ask them
Second jobs. Some consultants, MDs etc have them, ooooooo but not the "working class", eh
And, au contraire Banshi, glad I have exerted some influence on you. We Agree 16% in return for modernisation
Paramedics deserve more of course
26 November 2002, 07:46 AM
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Yup, good on the army lads, keep up the good work! 
Sod the firefighters, greedy sods, let `em sit outside their firestations over xmas, that`ll show `em how we feel [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Rich.
Sod the firefighters, greedy sods, let `em sit outside their firestations over xmas, that`ll show `em how we feel [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Rich.
26 November 2002, 08:54 AM
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steve G MAN: The 21K working out to 1100 quid a month is something like this:-
Salary 21000
Deductions:
6% pension -1260
NI -1974
Tax -4342.8
Tot Deducts -7576.8
Take home pay 13423.2/year
Monthly 1118.6
Of course these are approximate figures and will vary depending on tax benefits claimed for children etc etc.
Hope this clarifies things a little.
Salary 21000
Deductions:
6% pension -1260
NI -1974
Tax -4342.8
Tot Deducts -7576.8
Take home pay 13423.2/year
Monthly 1118.6
Of course these are approximate figures and will vary depending on tax benefits claimed for children etc etc.
Hope this clarifies things a little.
26 November 2002, 08:57 AM
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Teachers in London are on strike today apparently, they want their London waiting to go up from £3k --> £6K for full time teachers and £4K for Support Staff...
I sense a trend beginning...
I sense a trend beginning...
26 November 2002, 10:09 AM
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Nice to see that Navy lady bringing a baby out of a fire - the RAF, NAVY AND ARMY have my BIG thanks!! Doing it with a THIRD of the firemen numbers, clapped out materials AND holding their own!!
Either they are STARS or the firemen have been picking our pockets for years!!!
Pete
Either they are STARS or the firemen have been picking our pockets for years!!!
Pete
26 November 2002, 10:43 AM
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GTT
Now thats three of us in agreement, but still manintaining the argument
I'm jelous of youth, landed gentry & lottey winners, not employees. Just dispelling the poverty myth. Had't noticed any consultants withdrawing their labour in support of a ludicrous pay demand.
Great Aunt Mable certainly must have left them her fortune. The exclusive sking holiday and trips to the States would absorb three or four months pay.
Richi
The next scheduled strike will have 'em back by Christmas Eve.
Wouldn't sacrifice the Public Holiday rate of double time plus time in lieu. So if a watch commences on 23rd December thats 60 hours pay for the night shifts and another 18 for New Years Day.
Now add 40%, Happy Christmas 2003?
Now thats three of us in agreement, but still manintaining the argument
I'm jelous of youth, landed gentry & lottey winners, not employees. Just dispelling the poverty myth. Had't noticed any consultants withdrawing their labour in support of a ludicrous pay demand.
Great Aunt Mable certainly must have left them her fortune. The exclusive sking holiday and trips to the States would absorb three or four months pay.
Richi
The next scheduled strike will have 'em back by Christmas Eve.
Wouldn't sacrifice the Public Holiday rate of double time plus time in lieu. So if a watch commences on 23rd December thats 60 hours pay for the night shifts and another 18 for New Years Day.
Now add 40%, Happy Christmas 2003?
26 November 2002, 10:58 AM
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PSLewis
Have you actually read the whole of that piece of propoganda?
She didn't rush in and ****** the baby through the flames, she persuaded the mother and her baby to walk out of the house.
The tabloids sensationalised it to the point where she was the all conquering hero, because thats what will sell todays paper
I'm not saying if she had to act heroically she wouldn't have, but
just don't spout regurgitated tabloid sensationalism.
Have you actually read the whole of that piece of propoganda?
She didn't rush in and ****** the baby through the flames, she persuaded the mother and her baby to walk out of the house.
The tabloids sensationalised it to the point where she was the all conquering hero, because thats what will sell todays paper
I'm not saying if she had to act heroically she wouldn't have, but
just don't spout regurgitated tabloid sensationalism.
26 November 2002, 11:10 AM
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Steve G, if you could actually read (if not, please advise, and I will read it for you), the newspapers do actually tell you what happened factually, you just have to see through whatever crappy spin they decide to put on it that day to suit people like you who believe it all
26 November 2002, 11:12 AM
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im not the one reading the papers and then comein on here and postin like you are of something you knoe **** all about coz you wasent there but there you go at the end of the day if ya dident see it with ya own eyes shad up
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Could you repeat that once again in English please?
I think the person you are referring to is PS lewis, who came on here and spouted what had happened when he clearly just saw a pic of a wren with the headline "wren hero saves baby" without having read the actual article. What the newspaper had actually written is exactly what i just stated.
I think the person you are referring to is PS lewis, who came on here and spouted what had happened when he clearly just saw a pic of a wren with the headline "wren hero saves baby" without having read the actual article. What the newspaper had actually written is exactly what i just stated.