CC

Telboy, totally agree about squats.

100% of the good quality bodybuilders I've seen personally (not many) do heavy, free weight squats, in good form.

I really cannot understand why people, *especially* beginners, don't do them. Well I do understand..it's cos they're tough. I also have a lover/hate relationshiup with deadlifts , I dread them, but my head goes when doing them lol !!

Si, 200kg squats aren't that uncommon, I've done that a few years ago...doing 180kgs at present @ bodyweight of 15 stone which is ok I think. Still, there's always someone stronger and better built than yourself.

super_si

i dont want to be a power lifter. I purly wanna get solid for rugby in a years time perhaps.

Im dedicated but i really need to get defined meals its such an **** with work etc getting in the way.

Due protein shake soon

CC

Si, same here, I dont wanna be a power lift either...but you'll never see a well built bloke who is weak....atleast I haven't.

super_si

tbh i dont want to look that massive either. I just wanna be small above average but powerful as fooooooooooooooook

weapon69

Think about all the lil rugby playerz u can squish now

super_si

Did that anyway running 100m in under 13 helped alot.

I never got tired i can still hit a good 100m time after the game,( but usually coverd in blood + mud by then)

Dark Blue Mark

Bye bye liver

Creatine gave me liver pain

MB

Sparky1066

Try Myoplex by EAS, for taste, it's nice. Also you should use creatine 10-15 mins before a workout and drink lots of water during your workout, as creatine makes your muscles retain water, making them bigger and able to lift more weight, but if you don't drinks loads of water during your workout, then the water won't be there to be retained. Been in the Gym 3 times a week for 4 years and this works. I don't use creatine anymore though.

DaveR

Guys I totally agree that Creatine is the ultimate supplement - I started using it 5 years ago as part of a training regime for rugby. Now I pretty much use it just for general training, really allowing me to increase the intensity, etc.

One thing I have been wondering for a while though and can't seem to find any information on - is it safe to take creatine for such an extended period? About a year ago I had myself convinced it was the cause of heart-cramps I was getting, but now am not so sure ....

any responses helpful
cheers
DaveR

grovesy

I found this website http://www.absolute-creatine.com/9.htm

seems to be the best and most unbiased one about creatine I.E its not trying to flog it. Only problem is it has to many big words.

Si your profile says NE are you living in the north east ???

I go to Fitness First In Heaton/Long Benton. Its a bit Posh but there are loads of nice birds and the free weights part isn't to bad either

super_si

Yeah mate all over the North East ranging from York to Newcastle.

I was told not to stop on creatine that long, 1 tub on, then 6 weeks off. I usually drink red kick or lucazade(sp) during work out.

Si

DaveR

super_si --> why were you told 'not to stop on creatine too long' ? Were there any specific side effects?

thanks
DaveR

super_si

nar just ill get addicated mate, always good for a break.

I asked the Doctor when i was there about my shoulder about supplements. She said no scientific evidence surgesting not to take them.

If they work they work she said

grovesy

If you take to much white powder your nose might fall off !!!

super_si

How much we talking

grovesy

I would say anything more than a ton is pushing it

super_si

Where do you train then

SI

One thing i have problems is getting meals that arent the same.

gets boring,
fish, tuna, steak, lasange, eggs etc..........

Si

grovesy

Fitness first in Heaton its not bad !!! apart from there are few skiny posers in there with David beckham haircuts

Used to train a the dome in walker but it got to busy

grovesy

Well I'm off for some healthy protein filled larger

Training starts for real again on Monday !!!! (If I can be arsed)

super_si

lol i started seriously training in june now Stuck it out for a while, 1st time ive really gone thru the 'burn' Used to just stop when i hit the breaking point.

I used to go to a commercial gym, full loads little office gimps trying to make them selves feel better.

Si

super_si

Cheers mate, im now doing 1000meter row, then 5minute bike warm down.

its not the creatine its the disgusting protein. But im using the blender and pre made milk shake to mix it, spot on now.

My main issues finding meal ideas im sick of the same stuff.

Also good luck mate

Si

oj

Unfortunately Super_si there's not a lot you can do with the diet..!! I mainly have boiled rice, chicken and veg, with a little bit of spice like chilly sauce..!! this may vary with tuna, pasta, jacket pots, steak... My rule is to keep of fatty food.. the occassional curry, like boiled rice and chicken tikka does hurt..

When I start getting ready for competitions, then it gets very bland, with RICE Cakes, try eating 8 packets in one day...!! Boy I must be sad.. but delieve it or not I enjoy it, for now..

Best of luck...

OJ..

super_si

Went this morning, think ive done my shoulder in AGAIN.

It was killing tremendously.

Im probably off tomorrw, but god its hard getting into it after a week off

Si

oj

Si - did you warm first before you started, very important.. Anyway, suggest you take it easy with your shoulder, once you have an ijury, it will always be there in the background.. Work the shoulder in gently, I don'y knwo whether you was pushing with any heavy weights, if so, give it a rest and just use light weights for a while, even rest the shoulder for a week or so...

As for the protein mix, I tend to agree with you, some of the products really taste foul..!! I perfer to have eggs, taste better..

OJ..

Dougster.

Try the creatine with carbonated water and I feel that the vanilla or chocolate promax/progain was the easiest to take.

Happy training!

super_si

Nar ther creatine is gorgoeus, the promax is rank!!! very very disgusting.

Im off training now, going to see how it holds up.

Si

grovesy

Just been to the metro center and purchased 500g of "Pure Pharmaceutical Grade Creatine Monohydrate" for £14.99

And it recommends 20g (5 heaped teaspoons ) for 5 days then 2g per day after that!!!!!!


I'm gonna do 1 tsp. in the morning and 1 after I train.

super_si

ive just got back in, im taking that Creatine ES8000 i think.

Take one scoop in the Morning then one at night, i think that equates to 2 tables spoons per scoop.

Then same goes for the promax drink.

Training was harsh today. Managed 70kg on the smith press, Killed me

TelBoy

I assume that's 70kg shoulder presses which "killed" you..??

super_si

Something like that. It hurts typing now . cant speak more then a minute to my lass, because it hurts to much.

Least i can say my shoulder doesnt hurt now