how to emigrate?
#31
i'd agree totally about the states, but only two problems.
For all the brothers in arms spirit we share with the states were just about the only country that can't get in the country unless you have serious wedge behind you.
current economic state means very few are getting in on work visas unless your highly skilled/qualified.
For all the brothers in arms spirit we share with the states were just about the only country that can't get in the country unless you have serious wedge behind you.
current economic state means very few are getting in on work visas unless your highly skilled/qualified.
#32
Uncle Buck,
I would agree about Florida (cuz I grew up in Boca Raton in Palm Beach) but i don't have the required 6 figure bank account and 4 Phds to get me a visa.
Think i'll stick to somewhere a little easier to get into for now.
I would agree about Florida (cuz I grew up in Boca Raton in Palm Beach) but i don't have the required 6 figure bank account and 4 Phds to get me a visa.
Think i'll stick to somewhere a little easier to get into for now.
#36
I was working in North Carolina a few years ago for a few weeks but i had a 6 month work visa. I was sitting in the hire car outside the airport at the end of the 2 weeks seriously contemplating not getting the return flight and becoming an illegal immigrant. The worst that would have happened is that i'd get thrown out of the counrty at the end of the 6 months. I'm starting to think i made the wrong decision by getting on plane.
#37
only catch with that being if you are caught you can't even go back to the states for a holiday for i think its 5 or is it 7 years??? its some silly time.
Many moons ago there used to be a loophole for Irish IT contractors to stay longer, but a few (including a friend of mine) go caught trying to get nito the USA on it and was threatened with being sent home and not allowed back AT ALL for a long time..
Many moons ago there used to be a loophole for Irish IT contractors to stay longer, but a few (including a friend of mine) go caught trying to get nito the USA on it and was threatened with being sent home and not allowed back AT ALL for a long time..
#39
My parents have discussed emigrating and these were the destinations they looked at:
- Bermuda - the island's pretty small and there may not be enough employment prospects for you but it is one of the most beautiful places on earth...
- Southern France - go on holiday around St Tropez and you'll convince your girlfriend to move there within minutes. A flight to Nice and then on to St Tropez airport only takes 3 hours. Property inland is relatively inexpensive.
- New Zealand - has everything we have over here but better...
- Portugal - very very poor country but a beautiful one at that. Head towards Quinta do Lago and you'll forget the UK ever existed
- Bermuda - the island's pretty small and there may not be enough employment prospects for you but it is one of the most beautiful places on earth...
- Southern France - go on holiday around St Tropez and you'll convince your girlfriend to move there within minutes. A flight to Nice and then on to St Tropez airport only takes 3 hours. Property inland is relatively inexpensive.
- New Zealand - has everything we have over here but better...
- Portugal - very very poor country but a beautiful one at that. Head towards Quinta do Lago and you'll forget the UK ever existed
#40
Claudius,
I don't have any particular area or country in mind. I just figure that not only will i be better off financially, but i'll have a better standard of living. Basically i'm sick to death of this country and it's politics of screwing over the honest hard working folk.
What about employment opportunities (i'm in IT and process engineering)? How much would i be paying for decent rented accomodation? How do salaries compare? To be honest i'd rather live in spain but i reckon i can learn to speak french pretty quickly so it's probably my best bet.
Biggest hurdle i can see is talking the g/f round
edited cuz questions already answered.
[Edited by marty_t3 - 1/9/2003 11:32:38 AM]
I don't have any particular area or country in mind. I just figure that not only will i be better off financially, but i'll have a better standard of living. Basically i'm sick to death of this country and it's politics of screwing over the honest hard working folk.
What about employment opportunities (i'm in IT and process engineering)? How much would i be paying for decent rented accomodation? How do salaries compare? To be honest i'd rather live in spain but i reckon i can learn to speak french pretty quickly so it's probably my best bet.
Biggest hurdle i can see is talking the g/f round
edited cuz questions already answered.
[Edited by marty_t3 - 1/9/2003 11:32:38 AM]
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I don't have any particular area or country in mind. I just figure that not only will i be better off financially, but i'll have a better standard of living. Basically i'm sick to death of this country and it's politics of screwing over the honest hard working folk.
If you work in IT, you can make a lot of money. A friend of mine works as a server security manager / consultant and makes £4000 a month. He's 24.
How is france for taxation and cost of living? What about employment opportunities (i'm in IT and process engineering)? To be honest i'd rather live in spain but i reckon i can learn to speak french pretty quickly so it's probably my best bet.
There's a major technology "town" here called Sophia Antipolis, close to Vallauris which is in between Cannes and Nice. IBM, Texas Instruments and the like are there. I dont know much about IT, but you could try searching the web about that "technopole" as they call it here and check what companies are there. They gave all companies that moved there a tax exemption for several years (not the employees, though ) so there are quite a few.
Biggest hurdle i can see is talking the g/f round
[Edited by Claudius - 1/9/2003 11:40:41 AM]
#42
Please don't take this the wrong way
B U T
If you emigrate, are YOU prepared to live and integrate with the people [locals] around you?
I've lived and worked off-shore on and off since 1996.
Think its great but there are issues getting to know people, finding your way around etc.
Its not as easy as getting on a train/plane/automobile renting a house getting a job and whoopie.
The people there will have issues with their governments, same as we do, and you'll see them - first hand in some cases.
Choose your country then start reading their local papers [on-line] to see what their feelings are on some of the issues you want to disassociate yourself from here.
Lived in *****, nice accommodation, local drug dealers doing their thing just around the corner. Didn't show that in the job description!
Good Luck with whatever you decide to do.
Again, I'm not having a go, just trying to add another perspective.
[Edited by Bajie - 1/9/2003 12:11:38 PM]
B U T
If you emigrate, are YOU prepared to live and integrate with the people [locals] around you?
I've lived and worked off-shore on and off since 1996.
Think its great but there are issues getting to know people, finding your way around etc.
Its not as easy as getting on a train/plane/automobile renting a house getting a job and whoopie.
The people there will have issues with their governments, same as we do, and you'll see them - first hand in some cases.
Choose your country then start reading their local papers [on-line] to see what their feelings are on some of the issues you want to disassociate yourself from here.
Lived in *****, nice accommodation, local drug dealers doing their thing just around the corner. Didn't show that in the job description!
Good Luck with whatever you decide to do.
Again, I'm not having a go, just trying to add another perspective.
[Edited by Bajie - 1/9/2003 12:11:38 PM]
#43
Well, fuel and cigarettes are cheaper so thats the only 2 i know for sure that i'll benefit from.
I'm sure the French jail burglars too?? I don't think there's as much anti car policy either (judging by lower fuel prices)??
As for the rest, well it won't be any worse than it is here.
I'm sure the French jail burglars too?? I don't think there's as much anti car policy either (judging by lower fuel prices)??
As for the rest, well it won't be any worse than it is here.
Ok...let's take the most important aspect you just mentioned - cars
Given - the UK is bloody expensive for insurance and pretty bad for fuel as well. However, in some countries insurance might be cheaper, but new cars are insanely expensive (e.g. Holland, Denmark, Cyprus have new car registration tax of 40-50%), fuel the same price as the UK and road tax pretty horrendous as well. Etc. Consider why you see so few nice cars in these places. My point being that the situation may look better somewhere else in first instance but might not be. Don't move based on the impressions you get from just 2 weeks' holiday somewhere - anywhere seem brilliant then.
Make sure that you're not moving for just 1 aspect of life being better - you will be in for a major disappointment. The more reasons you have for moving to a new location, the more chances you will have of liking it.
Personally, I have lived in a number of different European countries over the last 5 years - and every place has its own pros and cons. Typically the pros and cons tend to even out pretty well.
Have a look on the web - there are loads of websites where you will find countrymen who will have gone before you. Find out what their experiences are - especially relating to the location you are contemplating moving to. You will then have a much better idea of the situation you are likely to encounter.
Editted out the usual typos
[Edited by WRX SEE - 1/9/2003 12:33:16 PM]
#44
Cheers for the info Claudius...
I'm seriously looking into it now. I assumed there was a lot more red tape to get through. Looks like all i need to do is get myself a job over there then start packing well.... after i do a bit more research of course
[Edited by marty_t3 - 1/9/2003 3:04:33 PM]
I'm seriously looking into it now. I assumed there was a lot more red tape to get through. Looks like all i need to do is get myself a job over there then start packing well.... after i do a bit more research of course
[Edited by marty_t3 - 1/9/2003 3:04:33 PM]
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good thought...
they like a bit of imaginative design in housing too.
what are prices like there??
The thing is though, the weather is as crap as ours, and it is almost as crowded....
Not far away enough!!... methinks
[Edited by unclebuck - 1/9/2003 10:38:44 PM]
they like a bit of imaginative design in housing too.
what are prices like there??
The thing is though, the weather is as crap as ours, and it is almost as crowded....
Not far away enough!!... methinks
[Edited by unclebuck - 1/9/2003 10:38:44 PM]
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