Police raid Finsbury Park Mosque...
20 January 2003, 02:31 PM
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DRUNKNORGY you taliban lover these people take the **** and i for one will have the guts to speak out its time we get to grips with the terrorists in the UK and if that means doing a few rades and it puts a few muslims noses out of joint i say **** them if they dont like it get a plane to packistan.
ps and if you think there is none over here then think again
ps and if you think there is none over here then think again
20 January 2003, 02:31 PM
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I have read this thread and have to say that one viewpoint stands out that personifies why we are in a mess - Drunkenorgys.
Wake up and smell the coffee. We live in a western society with western values. Where terrorism is concerned you cant have a half-hearted approach questioning everything. Fact is they are nutters and i for 1 dont want to be their next victim.
Dont u understand this is it now. US versus THEM. There is no turning back and appeasing with words. They hate western society and will stop at nothing to kill (ironic they come here and live and abuse our hospitality). Id rather have a pre-emptive strike on a mosque and get all the flak from the muslim community than leave it alone and then have 500 casualties a year down the line.
Amercia are on the backfoot too and are damned if they do or damned if they dont. Only way to deal is heavy-handed. look what happened when the police got lax and one of their own got stabbed in manchester. of course i heard that the refugee commission said the raid was politically motivated targetting algerians. (who the fek do you target then??????)
Everyone seems to use the human right argument but where terrorism is concerned fek that. Act now or pay the price later (like chamberlain and hitler).
Wake up and smell the coffee. We live in a western society with western values. Where terrorism is concerned you cant have a half-hearted approach questioning everything. Fact is they are nutters and i for 1 dont want to be their next victim.
Dont u understand this is it now. US versus THEM. There is no turning back and appeasing with words. They hate western society and will stop at nothing to kill (ironic they come here and live and abuse our hospitality). Id rather have a pre-emptive strike on a mosque and get all the flak from the muslim community than leave it alone and then have 500 casualties a year down the line.
Amercia are on the backfoot too and are damned if they do or damned if they dont. Only way to deal is heavy-handed. look what happened when the police got lax and one of their own got stabbed in manchester. of course i heard that the refugee commission said the raid was politically motivated targetting algerians. (who the fek do you target then??????)
Everyone seems to use the human right argument but where terrorism is concerned fek that. Act now or pay the price later (like chamberlain and hitler).
20 January 2003, 02:35 PM
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STIShreik the problem can only be solved if we can tag each and everyone of these muslims electronically. This way we can keep a watch on them and punish them harshly. But I am sure that idiots like drunkenorgy would disagree. His love for those towelheads and their way of life has blinded him.
20 January 2003, 02:42 PM
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Hehe
i would be in favour of that but it is much the same argument as paedophiles. The Human rights brigade (who need to be rounded up and mutilated slowly) would speak out saying this is not right.
Human rights are there to protect but now serve as a defence to do anyting you want. They are used to abuse the system rather than to protect individuals.
Instigate your tagging policy and there would be riots across the UK. The UK muslim community (who should want to have as much protection from these nutters as we do) would say this was racist.
We cant win really since the whole racism/human rights argument is used anywhere and anytime even where potentially disastrous scenarios could occur.
Looks like Ridley Scotts Blade Runner isnt fantasy after all.
i would be in favour of that but it is much the same argument as paedophiles. The Human rights brigade (who need to be rounded up and mutilated slowly) would speak out saying this is not right.
Human rights are there to protect but now serve as a defence to do anyting you want. They are used to abuse the system rather than to protect individuals.
Instigate your tagging policy and there would be riots across the UK. The UK muslim community (who should want to have as much protection from these nutters as we do) would say this was racist.
We cant win really since the whole racism/human rights argument is used anywhere and anytime even where potentially disastrous scenarios could occur.
Looks like Ridley Scotts Blade Runner isnt fantasy after all.
20 January 2003, 02:43 PM
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And once again the line is blurred between muslims and terrorists 
OK, the extremists in Finsbury Park mosque should be kicked out, or even invited to stay at the US Army's All-inclusive resort in Cuba, but that doesn't mean that all muslims are terrorists.
Using this crap as an excuse to be racist is a bit *****.
OK, the extremists in Finsbury Park mosque should be kicked out, or even invited to stay at the US Army's All-inclusive resort in Cuba, but that doesn't mean that all muslims are terrorists.
Using this crap as an excuse to be racist is a bit *****.
20 January 2003, 02:51 PM
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Nicely put NotoriousREV!
A small minority of the Muslim face are terrorists.
To say all Muslims are terrorists, would also mean all Christains (Catholic/Protostant/etc) are also terrorists!
Drunken Orgy - In Saudi and Oman there were two religions in the WORLD: Muslim and Christain. (Forget Buddists, Jews and all the others they lumped everyone together as Christain.)
In Oman the Christain cemetery had one two inch high sign to show were it was (middle of a Wadi (dried out river and valley basically (when the rain comes it becomes active))) and one Christain church - which you went to on a Friday (weekends in the Middle-East being Thursday and Friday).
I spent 18 months in Oman and 6 months in Saudi.
A small minority of the Muslim face are terrorists.
To say all Muslims are terrorists, would also mean all Christains (Catholic/Protostant/etc) are also terrorists!
Drunken Orgy - In Saudi and Oman there were two religions in the WORLD: Muslim and Christain. (Forget Buddists, Jews and all the others they lumped everyone together as Christain.)
In Oman the Christain cemetery had one two inch high sign to show were it was (middle of a Wadi (dried out river and valley basically (when the rain comes it becomes active))) and one Christain church - which you went to on a Friday (weekends in the Middle-East being Thursday and Friday).
I spent 18 months in Oman and 6 months in Saudi.
20 January 2003, 03:06 PM
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Drunknorgy - you will be very much in the minority here m8. The enemy of the common British people is now within, and that is the worse place for someone who has decided to terrorise you to be... We must act swiftly, decisively and strongly and I'm so glad the government at long last has binned its politically correct lamb to the slaughter attitude.
The arrogance of these violent parasites that mingle within and prey on our civil and accommodating society is beyond belief. How my attitude has been forced to change from the accommodating 'liberal' I once was... I despair for these power hungry Moslems that manipulate their audience and insult the Q'uran's meaning, values and ethos as they hypocritically attack our own society's 'infidel' but clearly and personally very beneficial values.
And NO I don’t think we should remotely consider war with Iraq at this stage - it would be TOTALLY unjustifiable. Especially in view of the fact that Hussein knows if he were to use any chemical agents then the A bomb might be very justifiably wheeled out to end it... (wonder if the Kuwaitis would lend a hand or two…?)
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The arrogance of these violent parasites that mingle within and prey on our civil and accommodating society is beyond belief. How my attitude has been forced to change from the accommodating 'liberal' I once was... I despair for these power hungry Moslems that manipulate their audience and insult the Q'uran's meaning, values and ethos as they hypocritically attack our own society's 'infidel' but clearly and personally very beneficial values.
And NO I don’t think we should remotely consider war with Iraq at this stage - it would be TOTALLY unjustifiable. Especially in view of the fact that Hussein knows if he were to use any chemical agents then the A bomb might be very justifiably wheeled out to end it... (wonder if the Kuwaitis would lend a hand or two…?)
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20 January 2003, 03:24 PM
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We are a supposed to be a liberal and tolerant country. Could you see the police in Saudi Arabia doing a raid on a christian church or harrass christians in this manner?.
convert muslims in Saudi carries a 100 lash sentence and deportment
DRUNKNORGY you taliban lover these people take the **** and i for one will have the guts to speak out its time we get to grips with the terrorists in the UK and if that means doing a few rades and it puts a few muslims noses out of joint i say **** them if they dont like it get a plane to packistan.
ps and if you think there is none over here then think again
ps and if you think there is none over here then think again
the problem can only be solved if we can tag each and everyone of these muslims electronically. This way we can keep a watch on them and punish them harshly. But I am sure that idiots like drunkenorgy would disagree. His love for those towelheads and their way of life has blinded him.
I asked a perfectly sensible question to see if the people on here actually had any real knowledge about the subject. Some have and some haven't
. Its quite frightning to see the bigoted statments made here. If you read the other thread 'I don't believe this.....' you will see that the statements I made in this thread don't neccessarily reflect my true standpoint. Perhaps was playing the devils advocate to see the reaction, but that aside there will be a very great number of decent hard working people on both sides will suffer if we do go to war. Can't we learn anything from history ?.
20 January 2003, 03:27 PM
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There is no bigotry involved anywhere here. We are merely stating the facts as we have perceived them. We are not racist. We just think that they do not belong in our society. If they want to act like mindless animals, then we should treat them like one.
[Edited by Ben P - 1/20/2003 3:28:07 PM]
[Edited by Ben P - 1/20/2003 3:28:07 PM]
20 January 2003, 03:30 PM
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Durken Orgy:
I think you are getting confused, it looks like you are quiting yourself and arguing!
If you are referring to my comment about the cross and lack of churches in Saudi Arabia, then yes I could imagine them raiding it and giving people a good kicking at the same time.
I have seen the "prayer monitors" operating with the Police force and giving the Saudis not praying a good hiding with a stick!
BTW deporting someone after 100 lashes would be carried out using a box and the cargo hold of a plane. Each stoke of the lash breaks the skin, I have seen the aftermath.
I think you are getting confused, it looks like you are quiting yourself and arguing!
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We are a supposed to be a liberal and tolerant country. Could you see the police in Saudi Arabia doing a raid on a christian church or harrass christians in this manner?.
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I know this already as attempting to distribute bibles or
convert muslims in Saudi carries a 100 lash sentence and deportment
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We are a supposed to be a liberal and tolerant country. Could you see the police in Saudi Arabia doing a raid on a christian church or harrass christians in this manner?.
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I know this already as attempting to distribute bibles or
convert muslims in Saudi carries a 100 lash sentence and deportment
I have seen the "prayer monitors" operating with the Police force and giving the Saudis not praying a good hiding with a stick!
BTW deporting someone after 100 lashes would be carried out using a box and the cargo hold of a plane. Each stoke of the lash breaks the skin, I have seen the aftermath.
20 January 2003, 03:50 PM
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MaTTel, I already knew the answer to the original question I posted, I was playing devils advocate. I do work for Saudi and Israeli companies and you need 2 passports to enter them. 1 with Israeli stamps and the other with Saudi Stamps, If the wrong passport was used in either country you would be detanied and probably beaten. All of our invoices have a statement that no profit will be made by israel through our work for the Saudi company etc. There is so much hate between them its unbelievable (and very sad IMHO).
20 January 2003, 03:55 PM
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Well can you blame them? The muslims keeps sending barages of suicide bombers killing their innocent civillians without provocation. If we are not careful, it might happen to us too.
20 January 2003, 04:07 PM
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Ben, Whilst not agreeing with their methods, The Palestinians are fighting back with the only weapons they have. Israel has stolen their land and displaced their people. What would you do in their position ?.
Why do you think that the whole Arab world is united against Israel. If they weren't being armed by the US, they would have been dug out of the West Bank, Gaza Strip etc back in the 60's during the 7 day war.
This is why the Arabs hate America, and was used as justification by Bin Laden and his cronies.
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Why do you think that the whole Arab world is united against Israel. If they weren't being armed by the US, they would have been dug out of the West Bank, Gaza Strip etc back in the 60's during the 7 day war.
This is why the Arabs hate America, and was used as justification by Bin Laden and his cronies.
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20 January 2003, 04:20 PM
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All the Arabs want to do is drive the Jews into the sea. Arafat himself has said this on many occasions live. Going with what you are saying, the IRA's bombings in the 80s are justified? At least the IRA did not target hospitals or nurseries and can be reason with. How are the Israeli supposed to reason with a mad race who's sole purpose is to exterminate them? The Muslims are the new *****.
20 January 2003, 04:29 PM
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No they just targetted shopping centres in Manchester and business areas of London
This still has nothing to do with the fact tho that the problem lies here at home first and foremost and that Israel/Palestine should be a worry after we have dealt with home first. As for Iraq my opinion is carpet bomb saddam into oblivion. Fine I am not in the army and going to the front line, but if I was called up I would go and fight simple as that.
If Saddam isnt a threat then what was that North Korean ship doing in the gulf with radioactive material on board heading for Iraq??? Iraq is a threat and its time it was dealt with. Should have been done 12 years ago and now is the time to finish it once and for all.
This still has nothing to do with the fact tho that the problem lies here at home first and foremost and that Israel/Palestine should be a worry after we have dealt with home first. As for Iraq my opinion is carpet bomb saddam into oblivion. Fine I am not in the army and going to the front line, but if I was called up I would go and fight simple as that.
If Saddam isnt a threat then what was that North Korean ship doing in the gulf with radioactive material on board heading for Iraq??? Iraq is a threat and its time it was dealt with. Should have been done 12 years ago and now is the time to finish it once and for all.
20 January 2003, 04:34 PM
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BNP or BenP whatever name you want to hide behind, I took the role of advocate to see some intelligent answers, not racist rantings. If you look up the defenition of Bigot, you will see that you have just contradicted yourself. I am surprised you aren't routing for the Arabs in their fight against your old enemy. Do you have a Swastika on your bedroom wall ?
20 January 2003, 04:35 PM
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Why don't we just invade Iraq and the other Arab nations and convert them into good law abiding Christians? Perhaps then they could be brought forward past the 12th century and into the 21st.
20 January 2003, 05:05 PM
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Drunken Norgy I can understand you're naive views as you live in Cheltenham- white middle class.
People like you haven't seen 1st hand what all these thousands of Asylum seekers are doing to this country. You haven't got a clue and play the 'Racist card' every time. Calling Ben a 'BNP' is as low as you get. Its pathetic! Why is it the British always get accused of Racism and never these fanatics who choose to hate our western society and alienate themselves in Mosques alday.
People like you haven't seen 1st hand what all these thousands of Asylum seekers are doing to this country. You haven't got a clue and play the 'Racist card' every time. Calling Ben a 'BNP' is as low as you get. Its pathetic! Why is it the British always get accused of Racism and never these fanatics who choose to hate our western society and alienate themselves in Mosques alday.
20 January 2003, 05:20 PM
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The more this happeneds the more "racist" the UK will get. The PC brigade have had their shout for far too long - they are ruining the country, Due to them and their views we will end up in a war zone instead of a western democracy. Religions and Race dont mix well most of the time - not racist, just fact. Every Brit (everyone born here) has the right to live a happy and long life on these shores but stop the bloody rest & ship them out!
20 January 2003, 05:21 PM
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Ben - re Israel & Palestine to state that the Israelis do not provoke the Palestinians is WAY off the mark. You do not become a suicide bomber in the belief it is a good career move - you do this out of desparation since the Yanks and Brits wont also sell you arms to fight back your oppressor in the more conventional way...
20 January 2003, 06:07 PM
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You become a suicide bomber due to being brainwashed. Why else take your own life and kill 30 innocents?????
Israel and Palestine are both as bad as each other and it is a no win situation.
How can Israel respond to wave and wave of suicide bombers from islamic jihad? Talk...me thinks not.
Israel and Palestine are both as bad as each other and it is a no win situation.
How can Israel respond to wave and wave of suicide bombers from islamic jihad? Talk...me thinks not.
20 January 2003, 06:58 PM
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You make your own minds up, I for one am not happy about this situation one little bit. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Asylum in Britain is now a Trojan Horse for terrorism.
Hero cop DC Stephen Oake died last week — allegedly stabbed by an Algerian terrorist who settled in Manchester as an illegal immigrant.
It is feared there are 200 Algerian terrorists living illegally in the UK.
We even accept Taliban soldiers who fought against us in Afghanistan.
It was disclosed on Saturday that a 32-year-old fighter got asylum last May. His lawyers, funded by legal aid, claimed he would be persecuted by the new government in Kabul.
Britain accepted 1,000 Iraqis and up to 200 Afghans on the closure of Sangatte refugee camp in northern France. It is estimated 110,000 Iraqi refugees will head for Britain if war breaks out with Saddam Hussein.
In the first half of 2002, 150 Jamaicans bunked each month. In an effort to combat illegal immigration and the smuggling of drugs and guns from the Caribbean, the Government this month required Jamaican citizens to have visas.
Only ten per cent of asylum applicants are judged to have a genuine claim for refugee status. Most are economic migrants.
Britain is an illegal asylum seeker’s paradise. Last year there were 92,000 asylum applications — far exceeding those made to the US and other European countries.
The UK is more crowded with refugees than any other European country — twice that of Germany and four times that of France. Every six months Britain, with its lax asylum laws, lets in enough applicants to fill a town the size of Cambridge.
Only one in ten asylum applicants who are turned down are actually sent home.
Every day thousands of refugees claim free treatment on the NHS without being entitled to it.
In Derby £500,000 is to be spent on refurbishing a GP’s practice to treat asylum seekers after the centre was closed to local residents.
In the next ten years we are expecting 2.5million refugees.
The Government plans to fork out millions of taxpayers’ money buying luxury hotels and manor estates to house asylum seekers.
They have employed companies to buy the stunning countryside retreats in a bid to bypass local authority and residents’ objections.
One of the planned asylum centres is the three-star Coniston Hotel in Sittingbourne, Kent, where a double room costs £55. Asylum seekers will stay there for free.
The British Medical Association has warned the health of the nation is at risk from asylum seekers.
HIV cases have increased by 25 per cent in the past year and the total of new cases is expected to reach 5,500 this year — more than twice the 1997 level.
A total of 130 new schools will have to be built in London to cope with the families of 700,000 asylum seekers expected to flood the capital in the next ten years.
As if Britain was not soft enough already, the National Lottery also supports refugees and asylum seekers.
Last year the Lottery’s Community Fund poured £18million into organisations working with this group compared with just £10million for hospices and £14million to organisations for the deaf, blind and people with learning difficulties.
They gave £723,000 to a political group working for illegal immigrants against the Government — the National Coalition Of Anti-Deportation Campaign.
Our asylum process is hopelessly inefficient. The average application takes six months to process, during which time many applicants disappear into the black market working as cab drivers or cleaners on stolen or false papers.
Two of the six men arrested in London over the plot to assassinate a public figure using ricin were asylum seekers living free at the taxpayers’ expense.
Britain took them in after they claimed they were being persecuted in Algeria and Ethiopia.
The rest of Europe has seen a dramatic drop in asylum applications after a fierce crackdown.
Holland has halved the number of applicants to 22,000 a year with a 48-hour system for getting rid of illegal immigrants, while Belgium has gone from 42,500 applicants two years ago to 19,000 in the past 12 months.
Denmark has also slashed numbers and France has opted out of Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights — the right not to be sent to a country where they might suffer inhuman or degrading treatment — making it harder for lawyers to stop illegal immigrants being sent home.
And Germany has reinforced its borders so would-be asylum seekers — 100,000 last year — are turned back.
But the message Britain gives refugees is that our doors are wide open. We’re a soft touch and they know it!
Asylum in Britain is now a Trojan Horse for terrorism.
Hero cop DC Stephen Oake died last week — allegedly stabbed by an Algerian terrorist who settled in Manchester as an illegal immigrant.
It is feared there are 200 Algerian terrorists living illegally in the UK.
We even accept Taliban soldiers who fought against us in Afghanistan.
It was disclosed on Saturday that a 32-year-old fighter got asylum last May. His lawyers, funded by legal aid, claimed he would be persecuted by the new government in Kabul.
Britain accepted 1,000 Iraqis and up to 200 Afghans on the closure of Sangatte refugee camp in northern France. It is estimated 110,000 Iraqi refugees will head for Britain if war breaks out with Saddam Hussein.
In the first half of 2002, 150 Jamaicans bunked each month. In an effort to combat illegal immigration and the smuggling of drugs and guns from the Caribbean, the Government this month required Jamaican citizens to have visas.
Only ten per cent of asylum applicants are judged to have a genuine claim for refugee status. Most are economic migrants.
Britain is an illegal asylum seeker’s paradise. Last year there were 92,000 asylum applications — far exceeding those made to the US and other European countries.
The UK is more crowded with refugees than any other European country — twice that of Germany and four times that of France. Every six months Britain, with its lax asylum laws, lets in enough applicants to fill a town the size of Cambridge.
Only one in ten asylum applicants who are turned down are actually sent home.
Every day thousands of refugees claim free treatment on the NHS without being entitled to it.
In Derby £500,000 is to be spent on refurbishing a GP’s practice to treat asylum seekers after the centre was closed to local residents.
In the next ten years we are expecting 2.5million refugees.
The Government plans to fork out millions of taxpayers’ money buying luxury hotels and manor estates to house asylum seekers.
They have employed companies to buy the stunning countryside retreats in a bid to bypass local authority and residents’ objections.
One of the planned asylum centres is the three-star Coniston Hotel in Sittingbourne, Kent, where a double room costs £55. Asylum seekers will stay there for free.
The British Medical Association has warned the health of the nation is at risk from asylum seekers.
HIV cases have increased by 25 per cent in the past year and the total of new cases is expected to reach 5,500 this year — more than twice the 1997 level.
A total of 130 new schools will have to be built in London to cope with the families of 700,000 asylum seekers expected to flood the capital in the next ten years.
As if Britain was not soft enough already, the National Lottery also supports refugees and asylum seekers.
Last year the Lottery’s Community Fund poured £18million into organisations working with this group compared with just £10million for hospices and £14million to organisations for the deaf, blind and people with learning difficulties.
They gave £723,000 to a political group working for illegal immigrants against the Government — the National Coalition Of Anti-Deportation Campaign.
Our asylum process is hopelessly inefficient. The average application takes six months to process, during which time many applicants disappear into the black market working as cab drivers or cleaners on stolen or false papers.
Two of the six men arrested in London over the plot to assassinate a public figure using ricin were asylum seekers living free at the taxpayers’ expense.
Britain took them in after they claimed they were being persecuted in Algeria and Ethiopia.
The rest of Europe has seen a dramatic drop in asylum applications after a fierce crackdown.
Holland has halved the number of applicants to 22,000 a year with a 48-hour system for getting rid of illegal immigrants, while Belgium has gone from 42,500 applicants two years ago to 19,000 in the past 12 months.
Denmark has also slashed numbers and France has opted out of Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights — the right not to be sent to a country where they might suffer inhuman or degrading treatment — making it harder for lawyers to stop illegal immigrants being sent home.
And Germany has reinforced its borders so would-be asylum seekers — 100,000 last year — are turned back.
But the message Britain gives refugees is that our doors are wide open. We’re a soft touch and they know it!
20 January 2003, 07:17 PM
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Well said Andy, best post so far. Hit the nail right on the head.
This countrys system is an utter joke and the asylum seekers are laughing their heads off at us.
The next step the government (and I say that in its looosest form) will be handing out written invitations to them to come and live in Blighty and have a free party on us [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
FFS the property prices in this country are outrageous as it is and these people are being given free houses, I pay a **** load of money for my one bedroom flat as we all do for our properties and motgages and these people are being given free homes much larger than mine which we are also paying for out of our taxes [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Where is my free house? Do I need to move to Iraq and then come back claiming asylum so I can get a free house?
How many homeless people are there in this country who are being ignored and left on the streets, yet if you come from abroad you walk straight into a lovely warm house [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] What happened to looking after our own population first b4 dealing with foreigners. The government couldn't prioritise to save their skins!
It just doesnt make sense that the government can continue to get away with these policies. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Just to add, the 1000 Iraqis have a use by the government, they have been selected for use in the impending war. They are currently being trained up for use as intelligence as they fit in with language etc. That was arranged specifically for this purpose. There is no possibility of war, it is definate, it has been planned for ages and it WILL go ahead. No amount of propoganda can hide that. The sooner they get on with it the better IMHO.
This countrys system is an utter joke and the asylum seekers are laughing their heads off at us.
The next step the government (and I say that in its looosest form) will be handing out written invitations to them to come and live in Blighty and have a free party on us [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
FFS the property prices in this country are outrageous as it is and these people are being given free houses, I pay a **** load of money for my one bedroom flat as we all do for our properties and motgages and these people are being given free homes much larger than mine which we are also paying for out of our taxes [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Where is my free house? Do I need to move to Iraq and then come back claiming asylum so I can get a free house?
How many homeless people are there in this country who are being ignored and left on the streets, yet if you come from abroad you walk straight into a lovely warm house [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] What happened to looking after our own population first b4 dealing with foreigners. The government couldn't prioritise to save their skins!
It just doesnt make sense that the government can continue to get away with these policies. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Just to add, the 1000 Iraqis have a use by the government, they have been selected for use in the impending war. They are currently being trained up for use as intelligence as they fit in with language etc. That was arranged specifically for this purpose. There is no possibility of war, it is definate, it has been planned for ages and it WILL go ahead. No amount of propoganda can hide that. The sooner they get on with it the better IMHO.
20 January 2003, 07:21 PM
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andy pandy,
well said, the facts talk for themselves! i think we've become such soft touches because we're all afraid of being branded racists! political correctness gone mad.
well said, the facts talk for themselves! i think we've become such soft touches because we're all afraid of being branded racists! political correctness gone mad.
20 January 2003, 07:31 PM
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So, we have shown 'disrespect' by violating their 'house of god' eh? [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Oh the shame [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
What about the disrespect they show to us EVERYDAY by coming here and exploiting all the laws and loopholes, cheating, lying and now plotting to kill people. It is well known that they use tha place as a place to hide terrorists and plan outrages and spread hate for the English WHOSE COUNTRY THEY ARE IN.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
I'm glad they're offended, they need to be offended more and more till they get the message and f**k off out of OUR country
What about the disrespect they show to us EVERYDAY by coming here and exploiting all the laws and loopholes, cheating, lying and now plotting to kill people. It is well known that they use tha place as a place to hide terrorists and plan outrages and spread hate for the English WHOSE COUNTRY THEY ARE IN.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
I'm glad they're offended, they need to be offended more and more till they get the message and f**k off out of OUR country
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It will end up with huge race riots.
This is our country not theirs. Even my Indian friends etc see it as a major problem. It is time we took to the street and kick the Goverment out. Demanding a new PM who can arrange for 80% of these people to be sent home within 1 month....... No appeal etc..straight on the plane and goodbye.
We have a war...here not abroad.
And as for treating other religions equaly!!!! Tell me they do abroad........
NO RELIGION DESERVES ANY RESPECT.. YOUR RELIGIOUS LEADERS ARE CHEATS ,LIARS AND THIEVES>
[Edited by Luke - 20/01/2003 19:37:59]
This is our country not theirs. Even my Indian friends etc see it as a major problem. It is time we took to the street and kick the Goverment out. Demanding a new PM who can arrange for 80% of these people to be sent home within 1 month....... No appeal etc..straight on the plane and goodbye.
We have a war...here not abroad.
And as for treating other religions equaly!!!! Tell me they do abroad........
NO RELIGION DESERVES ANY RESPECT.. YOUR RELIGIOUS LEADERS ARE CHEATS ,LIARS AND THIEVES>
[Edited by Luke - 20/01/2003 19:37:59]