Police raid Finsbury Park Mosque...
20 January 2003, 07:39 PM
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Drunken Norgy I can understand you're naive views as you live in Cheltenham- white middle class.
There is no bigotry involved anywhere here. We are merely stating the facts as we have perceived them. We are not racist. We just think that they do not belong in our society. If they want to act like mindless animals, then we should treat them like one.
BenP-Only one party has the ***** to fix this problem. It's a shame that some people here don't see it.
hint:not Torries
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Someones playing the race card and its not me
I like many other people feel that the genuine Asylum Seekers should be given sanctuary (We claim to be civilised don't we?)but Economic Migrants should get in the queue with everyone else and be dealt with on merit.
Don't tar all Black and Asian people with being spongers or thieves. All the Black and Asian people I know are honest and hard working and even though their culture is different, want the same as everyone else on the street.
As for the terrorists, I want them locked up or deported as much as anyone else here. Not all Muslims are terrorists so is it fair to label all of them with this?.
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20 January 2003, 07:55 PM
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I certainly havent said all Muslims are terrorists, in fact quite the opposite, most want rid of the terrorist scum who use their religion as an excuse for war and hatred as much as we do.
I think this needs to be cleared up ASAP before the mods lock this thread. This is not about racism and hatred of ethnic minorities. It about getting rid of the scum who use asylum wrongly and for an easy way of getting into this country to commit crime, whether it be terrorism or benefit fraud. Its about looking after our country first b4 handing out houses and free money to asylum seekers when we have British people (what ever their colour they are still British) who already need help b4 foreigners receive help.
Stop getting personal with each other guys, we all have opinions and we are airing them here. If you don't agree with them argue your point, don't start name calling and getting silly. This is a thread that shouldnt be locked but if it continues down the line it has started going it will be locked very quickly I should imagine. Basing this on how other threads have been locked, don't want this one to end up the same way.
I think this needs to be cleared up ASAP before the mods lock this thread. This is not about racism and hatred of ethnic minorities. It about getting rid of the scum who use asylum wrongly and for an easy way of getting into this country to commit crime, whether it be terrorism or benefit fraud. Its about looking after our country first b4 handing out houses and free money to asylum seekers when we have British people (what ever their colour they are still British) who already need help b4 foreigners receive help.
Stop getting personal with each other guys, we all have opinions and we are airing them here. If you don't agree with them argue your point, don't start name calling and getting silly. This is a thread that shouldnt be locked but if it continues down the line it has started going it will be locked very quickly I should imagine. Basing this on how other threads have been locked, don't want this one to end up the same way.
20 January 2003, 07:59 PM
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yep...The mods will always go against the feelings of the people to please some PC **** or some religious nutter.No religion has any right to demand respect.
We are loosing our spine.
We are loosing our spine.
20 January 2003, 07:59 PM
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'All the Black and Asian people I know are honest and hard working and even though their culture is different, want the same as everyone else on the street.'
Each and every person has asian or black ppl they know and talk to. They have adopted western values and aren't as rigid with their views as others. They are fully integrated into our society and you feel they are british thru and thru.
The problem is so many cultures come in and then set up shop. We are creating different ghettos of nationalities that will lead to war. These ppl want to take advantage of the british good-will and dont give a rats *** about our culture (not that we have one anymore).
Only way forawrd is tough-talk and tough policies not this airy fairy PC talk that infests our island and will destroy us.
At end of day each culture is prejudiced. I for one have lived in London and thought my god wtf is going on.
When will they learn that living in harmony isnt an option. No-one wants to live next door to an afghan or an iraqi (that is the truth unfortunately)? But the poor do and will and the rich will carry on spouting this BS about how great it is that we accept 1000s of immigrants and how culturally rich this nation is.
Bull Bull and more bull.
Each and every person has asian or black ppl they know and talk to. They have adopted western values and aren't as rigid with their views as others. They are fully integrated into our society and you feel they are british thru and thru.
The problem is so many cultures come in and then set up shop. We are creating different ghettos of nationalities that will lead to war. These ppl want to take advantage of the british good-will and dont give a rats *** about our culture (not that we have one anymore).
Only way forawrd is tough-talk and tough policies not this airy fairy PC talk that infests our island and will destroy us.
At end of day each culture is prejudiced. I for one have lived in London and thought my god wtf is going on.
When will they learn that living in harmony isnt an option. No-one wants to live next door to an afghan or an iraqi (that is the truth unfortunately)? But the poor do and will and the rich will carry on spouting this BS about how great it is that we accept 1000s of immigrants and how culturally rich this nation is.
Bull Bull and more bull.
20 January 2003, 08:03 PM
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BenP-Only one party has the ***** to fix this problem. It's a shame that some people here don't see it. hint:not Torries
20 January 2003, 08:05 PM
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Exactly my point Shrek. But some people don't see it that way. Many moons ago when I was a young lad I used to live with some Indian or Pakistani boy in my dorms. The stench from their food that they cooked was unbearable to me. I have been tortured for four long years. I don't want to live the rest of my working life in that situation again.
20 January 2003, 08:30 PM
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Listen, 'NO ONE' seems to have raised the question of 'WHY' this 'government' is so lax in its asylum laws. Has anyone here even contacted their MP before running off at the mouth, or am I being naive?
TBO there must be some sort of very hidden agenda, cos I for one just cannot see the benefits of such a lax views on immigration and asylum, especially in todays political climate.
I’m glad no one wants to seek asylum in miserable damp old Scotland though, and that those who have have received the welcome they deserve IMHO.
Good luck our southern friends
[Edited by Jye_0 - 20/01/2003 20:32:24]
TBO there must be some sort of very hidden agenda, cos I for one just cannot see the benefits of such a lax views on immigration and asylum, especially in todays political climate.
I’m glad no one wants to seek asylum in miserable damp old Scotland though, and that those who have have received the welcome they deserve IMHO.
Good luck our southern friends
[Edited by Jye_0 - 20/01/2003 20:32:24]
20 January 2003, 08:34 PM
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Don't speak too soon m8, I live in very sunny Inverness and there is a mini Iraqi invasion at the moment? I thought we were supposed to be invading them
Maybe the war is all spin and Tony and Saddam get on great Im sure if Saddam put his support behind Tony being European Presidant anything would be possible.
[Edited by Carlos The Jackel - 20/01/2003 20:37:20]
Maybe the war is all spin and Tony and Saddam get on great Im sure if Saddam put his support behind Tony being European Presidant anything would be possible.[Edited by Carlos The Jackel - 20/01/2003 20:37:20]
20 January 2003, 09:00 PM
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The raid where the cop was stabbed epitomises the attitude that makes me puke "can't take guns lads,even though we think/know they're terrorists cos they might not 'like' it " this is true blue INSANITY. I'm not saying go in all guns blazing but for Christ (or am i abusing someones human rights by using Christs name) sake take them ,cops are not allowed to we are told ,no need for it we are told, WHAT???, political correctness WILL DESTROY THIS COUNTRY madness ,pure madness.
20 January 2003, 09:16 PM
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Well in this age of PC, people are too frightened to say what they think. Glad to see that people on here ARE saying what they think.
Personally if people from another country want to integrate into the English way of live, then they bloody well should. No mosques, no different religions, no different cultures. Either they accept our way of life, integrate into it 100% OR they get out!! I would expect the same if I moved to their country.
So why are we so different, is there a hidden agenda that the government ain't telling us!!!
Personally if people from another country want to integrate into the English way of live, then they bloody well should. No mosques, no different religions, no different cultures. Either they accept our way of life, integrate into it 100% OR they get out!! I would expect the same if I moved to their country.
So why are we so different, is there a hidden agenda that the government ain't telling us!!!
20 January 2003, 09:21 PM
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dont want to enter into the arguement about racism cos I aint interested, but one point stuck out.
<As for why he is still here? Ask the bloody Government cos I got no idea. The security forces are well aware of his activities>
Well, its not like hes hiding his alegence, What would you do? Send him packing for a few juicy headlines? Or let him think hes playing us for fools while the intelligence agencies get weeks and weeks of top drawer intelligence on him?
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<As for why he is still here? Ask the bloody Government cos I got no idea. The security forces are well aware of his activities>
Well, its not like hes hiding his alegence, What would you do? Send him packing for a few juicy headlines? Or let him think hes playing us for fools while the intelligence agencies get weeks and weeks of top drawer intelligence on him?
astraboy.
20 January 2003, 09:33 PM
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AB I can't believe they are getting huge amounts of intelligence from him tho. Certainly not enough to justify his freedom. He is widely known to be under constant surveillance so don't think Bin Laden will be calling him up on the old dog and bone for a wee chat on who they are going to bomb/poison/shoot/kidnap/(the list goes on) next????
The prevention of terrorism act is here for a reason and this bloke should have been the first to be arrested under this act.
Instead they raid his Mosque and don't even arrest him. Surely at the very least he should be arrested for harbouring the people they have arrested??
He knows everything he does is under surveillance so isnt exactly going to give out blatant info to the security forces. His usefullness must have expired by now. Time for him to be banged up or deported.
The prevention of terrorism act is here for a reason and this bloke should have been the first to be arrested under this act.
Instead they raid his Mosque and don't even arrest him. Surely at the very least he should be arrested for harbouring the people they have arrested??
He knows everything he does is under surveillance so isnt exactly going to give out blatant info to the security forces. His usefullness must have expired by now. Time for him to be banged up or deported.
20 January 2003, 09:44 PM
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When they find him??? He did an interview on camera saying it was all propoganda 
[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] He is so taking the p!ss its incredible! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] He is walking about free as the benefit money he is claiming!
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[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] He is so taking the p!ss its incredible! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] He is walking about free as the benefit money he is claiming![Edited by ************** - 1/20/2003 9:45:33 PM]
20 January 2003, 10:29 PM
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This government like every crisis has just igonred the wishes of the British people. It is proved over 80% of us are against this asylum insanity. Yet they just ignore us and treat us like kids.
Until some other leader stands up and says enough is enough- close our borders etc, then we are fcuked. Oh and by the way last time I listened to the liberal democrat leader Kennedy he was for an 'open policy' on asylum and was as bad as Blair. As Private Fraser said in Dads army- we are doomed doomed.
Until some other leader stands up and says enough is enough- close our borders etc, then we are fcuked. Oh and by the way last time I listened to the liberal democrat leader Kennedy he was for an 'open policy' on asylum and was as bad as Blair. As Private Fraser said in Dads army- we are doomed doomed.
20 January 2003, 11:26 PM
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Special branch know who the key players in the IRA are but dont arrest them.
They dont arrest captain hook and his merry men like they dont arrest the top IRA lot. If they did then all hell would let loose. Best not to rock the boat and keep your enemy close where you can see him and monitor his actions.
They dont arrest captain hook and his merry men like they dont arrest the top IRA lot. If they did then all hell would let loose. Best not to rock the boat and keep your enemy close where you can see him and monitor his actions.
21 January 2003, 06:13 PM
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Bring back capital punishment I say, or actually can't you still be hung for treason? They want Islam to take over, i guess they won't be keeping the monarchy,...i'm not particularly for the monarchy, but if the law can be manipulated...
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