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23 January 2003, 09:31 AM
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Moses can get away with saying anything. People too afraid or PC to tell him otherwise
Feel free to RTM this thread if you feel the need...
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23 January 2003, 10:13 AM
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lol @ diablo 
and yeah u guys send alot of charities to *****
diablo sorry mate i would have behaved but these conts need a chance to pick on muslims their a bunch of fannies lynch the black man type
and yeah u guys send alot of charities to ***** diablo sorry mate i would have behaved but these conts need a chance to pick on muslims their a bunch of fannies
lynch the black man type
23 January 2003, 10:56 AM
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As it was still prominent I thought I see how this so called debate was progressing.
Diablo, don't think you need to lock this - move it to muppet or preferably a new Playground Forum
Surprisingly - ( not ) - StiSs' only response was to admit he was unable to name a Muslim Charity. If I were cynical I might question if he could name more than two Islamic towns without the assistance of a search engine.
Anyway, if the US have their way will be aware of one: The Red Cresent Society
Diablo, don't think you need to lock this - move it to muppet or preferably a new Playground Forum
Surprisingly - ( not ) - StiSs' only response was to admit he was unable to name a Muslim Charity. If I were cynical I might question if he could name more than two Islamic towns without the assistance of a search engine.
Anyway, if the US have their way will be aware of one: The Red Cresent Society
23 January 2003, 12:12 PM
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one word for you all naive, all of you need to reserch things before you go on about other people, i thought that all people on this board all thought alike, and were mature, but i thought wrong, so think before you write
23 January 2003, 12:20 PM
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I thought that my question was a valid one, not a dig at islam. There are many rich islamic countries (Brunei,Saudi,Iran,Malasia,etc) Although they have poverty, we have people living on the streets,as do all other western coutries.
Do any islamic charities help non islamic causes?.
Do any islamic charities help non islamic causes?.
23 January 2003, 12:35 PM
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I don't think so, but then do any Christian charities help non-Christian causes?
Most of the 'normal' charities that we know are non-religious (Cancer Research, NSPCC -- I think Oxfam is Christian?)
Most of the 'normal' charities that we know are non-religious (Cancer Research, NSPCC -- I think Oxfam is Christian?)
23 January 2003, 01:15 PM
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I think you will find most like the Red Cross and Oxfam do alot of their work in Muslim countries. I haven't seen a Red Crescent shop in the High street though.
A good proportion of Africa is Muslim IIRC
A good proportion of Africa is Muslim IIRC
23 January 2003, 01:27 PM
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Checked Oxfam's website and they appear to be non-religious. Surely Red Crescent is just the Muslim form of the Red Cross (IIRC they objected to the cross as a symbol of Christianity). Maybe they're even the same organization.
Edit: http://www.ifrc.org/ indicates that they're closely allied.
[Edited by carl - 1/23/2003 1:30:58 PM]
Edit: http://www.ifrc.org/ indicates that they're closely allied.
[Edited by carl - 1/23/2003 1:30:58 PM]
23 January 2003, 01:36 PM
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So what your saying is the charities with Christian origins work for all people regrdless of their denomination, but the Islamic Charity (Red Crescent)only considers God fearing Muslims to be worthy causes?
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Isn't that a bit prejudiced?
.Isn't that a bit prejudiced?
23 January 2003, 01:44 PM
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No, what I was saying is that:
Muslim charities help people in Muslim countries
Christian charities help people in Christian countries, or aim to 'educate' the poor people in Christian doctrine
Non-denominational charities help everyone
Muslim charities help people in Muslim countries
Christian charities help people in Christian countries, or aim to 'educate'
the poor people in Christian doctrineNon-denominational charities help everyone
23 January 2003, 01:51 PM
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We're all wrong
The Red Crescent isn't an Islamic charity at all. There's a bunch of local charities called the Red Cross, and together they form the International Federation. Due to religious beliefs (I guess about wearing/using symbols of another religion) in some Muslim countries the local branch is called Red Crescent.
"Founded in 1919, the International Federation comprises 178 member Red Cross and Red Crescent societies, a Secretariat in Geneva and more than 60 delegations strategically located to support activities around the world. There are more societies in formation. The Red Crescent is used in place of the Red Cross in many Islamic countries."
The Red Crescent isn't an Islamic charity at all. There's a bunch of local charities called the Red Cross, and together they form the International Federation. Due to religious beliefs (I guess about wearing/using symbols of another religion) in some Muslim countries the local branch is called Red Crescent.
"Founded in 1919, the International Federation comprises 178 member Red Cross and Red Crescent societies, a Secretariat in Geneva and more than 60 delegations strategically located to support activities around the world. There are more societies in formation. The Red Crescent is used in place of the Red Cross in many Islamic countries."
23 January 2003, 02:46 PM
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"During the Russo- Turkish war, the Ottoman Society for Relief to the Wounded displayed a red crescent. This emblem has since been adopted by a number or countries in the Islamic world. It is recognized as having equal status with the red cross, and as such is mentioned in 1949 Geneva COnventions and their Additional Protocols
The Red Crescent Movement, born of a desire to bring assistance without discrimination to the wounded on the battlefield, endeavours, in its international; and national capacity, to prevent and alleviate human suffering whenever it may be found. its purpose is to protect life and health and to ensure respect for the human being. It promotes mutual understanding, friendship, co-operation and lasting peace amongst all people.
IMPARTIALITY
It makes no discrimination as to nationality, race, religious belief, class or political opinions.It endeavors to relieve the suffering of individuals, being guided solely by their needs, and to give priority to the most urgent cases of distress."
There is of course no requirement for anyone to step down from their soapbox and accept that statement.
The Red Crescent Movement, born of a desire to bring assistance without discrimination to the wounded on the battlefield, endeavours, in its international; and national capacity, to prevent and alleviate human suffering whenever it may be found. its purpose is to protect life and health and to ensure respect for the human being. It promotes mutual understanding, friendship, co-operation and lasting peace amongst all people.
IMPARTIALITY
It makes no discrimination as to nationality, race, religious belief, class or political opinions.It endeavors to relieve the suffering of individuals, being guided solely by their needs, and to give priority to the most urgent cases of distress."
There is of course no requirement for anyone to step down from their soapbox and accept that statement.
23 January 2003, 04:04 PM
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Banshi as DrunkNorgy stated Islam charities only help themselves where we as a nation send money to africa/Muslim Nations to help the needy.
Didn't Pakistan close its a borders to afghanistan I seem to remember. Let all those poor beggars starve to death. Thats charity alright-NOT!!!!!
I worked have worked in two muslim Countries- Tunisia/Turkey. And charity was non-existent to the needy. They just starved to death. Compassion was not an issue.
If you think I want to live under an Islamic culture then think again-and that isn't being Racist just my belief. Is that all right Moses??? Or am i a ****-grhhh
[Edited by Popeye P1 - 1/23/2003 5:25:06 PM]
Didn't Pakistan close its a borders to afghanistan I seem to remember. Let all those poor beggars starve to death. Thats charity alright-NOT!!!!!
I worked have worked in two muslim Countries- Tunisia/Turkey. And charity was non-existent to the needy. They just starved to death. Compassion was not an issue.
If you think I want to live under an Islamic culture then think again-and that isn't being Racist just my belief. Is that all right Moses??? Or am i a ****-grhhh
[Edited by Popeye P1 - 1/23/2003 5:25:06 PM]
23 January 2003, 04:26 PM
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Exactly! These animals could not even take care of their own kind, let alone us English
23 January 2003, 04:44 PM
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Your spouting Bollox Ben, I have the bottle to concede a point if I can see i'm wrong.
You don't even think through what you say. The Ethnic minorities are here to stay whatever you think. Get a life.
Edited.
[Edited by Little Miss WRX - 1/23/2003 8:00:59 PM]
You don't even think through what you say. The Ethnic minorities are here to stay whatever you think. Get a life.
Edited.
[Edited by Little Miss WRX - 1/23/2003 8:00:59 PM]
23 January 2003, 05:29 PM
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Quote 'If the economic migrants appeared at the other side of the Chunnel as did these refugees on the Pakistans border, the whole of Britain would **** bricks.'
Yes but we wouldn't let them starve to death. Its not british-LOL. I seem to recall all the aid to afganistan came from western aid organisations.
Yes but we wouldn't let them starve to death. Its not british-LOL. I seem to recall all the aid to afganistan came from western aid organisations.