Jye_0

Shropshire-Guy and boomer, I doubt pslewis ever will reply, he's the classic forum troll, makes a few inflamatory or bigotted statements (usually gets the thread locked etc.) then goes away without answering much of anything.

pslewis

When will you learn that to have a job that saves somebody's life DOES NOT mean you get paid more than the market dictates!!

I really do give up, how simple do I have to make it so you will understand??

The Army, Navy and Air Force staff may lay down their life soon so that we may have a chance of living in a world free of the threat of Mass destruction from Madmen/Women!!!

So, get a grip on life and STOP thinking Firemen are worth anymore than those who will die on your behalf!!

I give up!! Rescue cats from trees = £31k??? BOLLOX does it!

Pete

Jye_0

--The Army, Navy and Air Force staff may lay down their life soon--

And this happens on a daily basis, year in year out? No.

Diablo

S-G, much as I agree with your sentiments about Blair, please keep it clean (ish)

rayman

YAWN!!! wonder where I have heard this phase before "playing cat and mouse", at least we know the media is doing its job.

boomer

pslewis,

i will ask the question yet again...

You lose all credibility when you simply rant on about the same thing, time and time (and new topic after topic) again

Oh, and if you want to see evidence of New Labia being "stung", take a trip to http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...559912,00.html to read about the GMB union pulling out of a £40 million rescue deal for the Labour Party in protest at John Prescott’s decision to impose a pay settlement on striking firefighters!

Also, click http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...559913,00.html and find out why Mick Rix, general secretary of the train drivers’ union Aslef is calling for B.Liar to resign!

I look forward to your comprehensive reply

mb

pslewis

I rant on and on to try and make thickos like you understand economics - its my goal in life, to educate the uneducated .... I can see, Boomer, in your case you are NOT able to learn

The name you give I dont understand?? is that an ELECTED servant of yours??

Pete

Jye_0

--thickos like you--

Everyone on this forum I guess.

--I look forward to your comprehensive reply--

Which will never be forthcoming from a ranting loon like him.

bigJoe

--And this happens on a daily basis, year in year out? No.—

Yes!

Soldiers on active (or non active) duty are at risk of having to lay down their life daily……

Places like Kosovo and Northern Ireland are just two (of many) examples

A fireman has the option of refusing to enter a burning building if he (or she!) doesn’t like it

Anyone in the armed forces does not – they have to put themselves in danger or go to prison

You can’t compare the fire service with any of the armed services

Jye_0

bigJoe, squadies aint even in the top 10 dangerous jobs in the UK m8. In fact they aint even in the top 50. Soz. Now catchin fish, thats dangerous, numero uno in fact

bigJoe

Agreeed but they don't HAVE to put to sea in bad wx etc

the fate of a fishing boats crew is in their own hands - usually only poor planning or carelessness will kill them

and the really dangerous deep sea fishing is well paid

Jye_0

--the fate of a fishing boats crew is in their own hands--

Yeah, its all they have known for generations usually and they need to feed their families and stay off the dole, sheesh.

Suppose they could retrains as a Fireman or squaddie tho.

Its so easy to generalise m8

bigJoe

If you’re in a job where a few missed days or weeks over a year will result in you being on the dole, homeless etc....

You should have retrained six years ago! (more poor planning)

Anyway isn’t dole money intended to help in these sort of situations? – there is no reason for anyone to starve in the UK

Jye_0

LOL, I take it you havent seen the situation re the fishermen lately..........

bigJoe

Yea they've been allowed to overfish for years (europe wide) and they're paying for it now (suprise suprise), the Icelanders have got it right thou......

strict quotas and a well managed fishing industry

like farmers they've screwed themselves with the help of the goverment(s) (of course)

Jye_0

--Yea they've been allowed to overfish for years--

Hahahaha, and who wanted and ate all the fish? Or did they just stuff it between their ears like some I can mention

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bigJoe

As more fish gets caught
fish gets cheaper
as fish gets cheaper more gets consumed
as more gets consumed more gets caught

and on and on untill there's none left

as a goup
at the end of the day it's dog eat dog (or fish), their inability to self regulate has become their downfall - for whatever reason

individually
To ignore the obvious (declining stocks etc) and not act (retrain) is extremely foolish - especally these days

When will they (we all!) learn?

boomer

pslewis

I would love to learn the facts behind your statement at the start of this thread saying "These Firemen have cost us £70million "

If you can't be bothered to come up with such information, and if you continue to conveniently ignore any comments that disprove your ranting, then you are clearly not worth entering into a debate with.

mb

Jye_0

Your learning boomer

Jye_0

--their inability to self regulate--

LOL, your a bit lame on that 'fact' m8, the fishermen regulate themselves do they? First I heard it, heheh. Praps you might look into 'who' exactly over fished 'our' waters and 'why' before you continue to talk nonsense regarding fishermen. That’s fishermen btw not politicians in case you can’t differentiate.

pslewis

Boomer, ok, just for you - watch my lips:-

Prescott said (thats Prescott NOT me!) this has cost taxpayers £70million

Could I suggest you ask HIM and not me?? I believe what he says so I repeated it. You doubt it - so, e-mail his office and ask him where he got the details from!

Would you like me to hold your hand next time you need something answering?? I dont know!! No wonder the UK is in a state!! I am the only sane one here!!!!

Pete

unclebuck

mate - if I watched your lips for any length of time, I would puke

Jye_0

I think he's trying to hypnotise us all Uncle. (set to spooky music) Waaatch my lips, watch my liiiips, waaaatch my liiiips, you are all under my spell, I am the master, LOL.

Diablo

And you actually believe what that lardy arsed hypocrite with a short memory says?

You really are as stupid as you come across Pete

Oh - and can we drop the "I'm 72 and have been there done it cr@p" Its wearing thin.

D

penislewis

Thats his IQ Diablo, not his age

I_dont_giveafvk

who wants to smell of fish, ill take wd40 anyday

pslewis

Diablo - tough talk from the worst Moderator god ever made, you are - without doubt a complete and utter *******!! Would you call me stupid to my face?? Thought not - so dont on here you spineless weasel!!

Whats wrong with the 'I'm 72 and seen it all??' Get a bl00dy life mate you sad article. You say many things that tell me you are a TOTAL hypicritical 4rse, see the other thread on your Moderating behaviour (NOT started by me OR contributed to by me, you will note!)

That should get it this locked - Diablo doesnt like naughty words

Pete

ustolemyname??stevieturbo

iTrader: (1)

Just curious about how much your last few pay rises have been on a percentage basis pslewis ??
And what the fireman ( and the rest of us peasants for that matter )have got over the last, say 10 years???

pslewis

Erm, let me see? - last years deal 3.5% for 14 months - year before 5.6% - year before about 6%. Cant see the relevance myself?

Would have LOVED 11% over 24 months like the Firemen have been offered! THATS why I am SO mad - they do NOT deserve £31,000 END OF STORY. No recruitment problems at all!! So why pay more? NO NEED TO.

Oh, yes, the above does not include any Promotion payments - but, of course, these are rewards for a scarce skill and a fantastic ability so dont count!

Pete

Jye_0

Give everyone with a huge ego and small ***** £50 K pa min, and give pslewis a million easy