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Old 11 February 2003, 01:08 PM
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Did you get it there Daz or they just buy back old pc bits?
Old 11 February 2003, 01:58 PM
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I have been waiting for the geforce fx card now for ages... so what is the best gfx card out at the mo then ??
Old 11 February 2003, 04:13 PM
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No I didn't buy it there.
They buy and sell used parts.
You need to be a member but you can join when you go. Just take some ID

Should get my Crucial Radeon 9700Pro arriving tomorrow!!

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Old 11 February 2003, 04:18 PM
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LMAO at that MP3. Who signed the FX off? I can't believe they thought that much noise was acceptable...
Old 11 February 2003, 04:37 PM
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yes i did read it - no clicky links though - so i am asking what the best i can purchase right now is ? as the fx seems rubbish
Old 11 February 2003, 04:45 PM
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That would be the radeon 9700 pro until the ATI 350 called the Radeon 9900 comes out later this month.

Daz cheers might go flog my card asap!
Old 11 February 2003, 04:48 PM
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Buuuuuuuuut, we don't really know just how different the r350 is gonna be atm, as it really is looking strongly like a slightly refined r300 core with a little ramp in clock. Possibly a little texture pipeline work too tho.

Who knows.

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Old 11 February 2003, 06:54 PM
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Some more news/speculation regarding the future of the fx:

Nvidia offered more fuel to the fire that the Nvidia GeForceFX graphics chip will be a short-lived part.
In response to "rumors" that the "Ultra" version of the GeForceFX family would not actually sold at retail, Nvidia released the following statement:

"As you know the company does not comment on rumors and/or speculation," the company continued. "Like every new product from Nvidia - the demand is far greater than the limited supply we will have. Nvidia's GeForce FX Ultra 5800 and the GeForce FX 5800 are still targeted to be in retail in late February. If you have any other questions - please feel free to contact us."

Nvidia representatives did not return telephone calls and an email asking for further comment.


According to reports on the Web, retailers such as Best Buy are being asked to stop preorders of the GeForce FX Ultra and sell through their exisiting inventory. In a letter sent to Web site HardOCP.com, John Malley, director of marketing and PR at BFG Technologies, said that the Ultra cards were no longer available for preorder at Best Buy, but that the add-in-card vendor would honor them when they became available.

Make of that what you will.


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Old 13 February 2003, 11:59 AM
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Looking forward to recieving my new card yesterday but some scumbags stole the Royal Mail van with my parcel in it!!!!!!
Old 13 February 2003, 10:04 PM
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Just ordered said card

Question though, i've heard that to get the best from the card i will have to format and reinstall XP, any truth in this? or will detonator destroyers solve any problems??

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just install dx9 first, use the nvidia uninstaller in add/remove, shutdown, plumb in 9700, fire up, cancel new device found stuff (all of them), run the catalyst 3.1 driver install, reboot, install the ATI control panel, reboot, go have fun.

You can run regedit and go to hkey localmachine, software, nvidia and delete it, but only do this if you aren't on a NForce board etc.

REMEMBER, if you are buying this card for all out speed, then you need to go and alter the default settings in the 9700 options.

Cheers,

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Old 15 February 2003, 11:42 PM
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Cheers Nick.

Fantastic service from Crucial, as usual.Ordered it Thursday night at 10ish, arrived Saturday morning! Deleted the Nvidia drivers in the add/remove section, then used a detonator destroyer program to find the rest

Still trying the overclocking route, upto 20mhz more on both the core and memory so far Check out http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=435&page=4 for the program i'm using.
Old 15 February 2003, 11:47 PM
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M8, concentrate on getting the drivers set to optimal settings before messing about with overclocking

I will prob be ocing mine via custom BIOS, but I have ramsinks now and the Gigantic Zalman heatpipe dual sided cooling malarkey. However, this is also being cooled by low profile 60mm fans top and bottom. Now that's doing it properly (being sad)
Old 16 February 2003, 05:43 AM
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Point taken, i'll have a look further into things later today!


Old 02 August 2003, 06:39 PM
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Not a particularly interesting post, but I was so shocked by this that I thought that I would post this up anyway.

As some know, I am mid pc change again and had timed this with the supposed arrival of the Geforce FX cards. I sold my trusty Ti4600 on and waited in limbo for my new mobo and the supposed wonder card. I had pretty well been assimilated by Nvidia when 3dfx went under to them and was hoping for another decent performance upgrade in the never ending quest for 1600x1200 gaming.

Well, I had been mildly concerned about the new fx, but was not expecting it to be the complete dog that it is. After much thought and against my better judgement, I contemplated an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro as a replacement due to how amazingly well it had coped performance-wise against the FX. I got my card in the end from Crucial for £232.64 INC VAT AND DELIVERY

Perfect reference board, which was good. Immediately removed the orrible yellow thermal putty under the heatsink and added a thin layer of themal compound. Fired up the rig with it and got into windows perfectly. Installed DX 9, catalyst 3.0 drivers and control panel as recommnded and tweaked the drivers for max performance, leaving 2xAA on and 2xAF.

I immediatly noticed how much sharper/crisper the image of my desktop was on the monitor. I have a 22" Iiyama screen that I desktop at 1024x768 and was getting very peeved off of late about how out of focus some areas of the screen were and 1280 res and above looked pants. I was in no doubt looking at the fading/colour bleed etc that the monitor was at fault. Boy was I wrong. Virtually all of the problem areas on the screen are no longer there. Much better image full stop . Completely shocked by the card making such a difference there.

Fired up Battlefield 1942 and ramped it to 1600x1200 res, the res that I have dreamed of playing games on since q3 and UT. Good god. Looked absolutely beautiful and was still perfectly smooth! the Ti4600 suffered noticeably at 1280 or above with settings to highest on my old rig running at 2.93 ghz. I used to run 1024x768 for this game with no AA or AF, as they completely crushed Nvidia cards. This 2.8 rig with all settings at high like before at 1600x1200 was pootling along looking completely understressed.

The mustang always looked good in this game, but running up to it seeing the smoothed curves, mirrored bodywork and sun bouncing off various panels was truly stunning....

I fired up UT2003 and upped the setting from 1024x768 with mostly high/highest settings to 1600x1200,fully highest settings with full 3D HW sounds with eax for more stress on the machine. Again, Looked truly stunning and played perfectly smoothly. Playing tdm on Tokara Forest for instance when about 7 of us piled into an area with all guns blazing, barely any slowdown whatsoever and the only slowdown I noticed throughout all of the testing.

I am completely shocked as to just how good this card is.

After all, it is an ATI! I had always said in the past that I loathed them from their previous ****-poor performance, compatability issues and poor driver support, but had said that they were looking promising nowadays with the 9xxx series. I just wasn't expecting them to be this much better now.

I did take into consideration the new Radeon 9900 being released in april/may time, but the cards are still very similar in reality, bar the difference in core speed really.

I thought it was an good price at the time, so well chuffed with the end result

If any of you are considering a VGA upgrade, hell, it may be an ATI, but it completely kicks Nvidia's *** all over the shop .

Highly recommended

Cheers,

Nick

[Edited by Mr Footlong - 2/8/2003 6:53:53 PM]
Old 02 September 2003, 09:52 PM
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Even my cheapy R9500np runs 8x AGP with no worries ( and overclocks to 300/300 )

14.4k 3d marks for £100+vat unmodded .. lovely stuff.


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[Edited by stevem2k - 2/9/2003 10:04:11 PM]
Old 02 October 2003, 12:24 PM
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--Also Jye, looked for a demo for motor gp? Can't find one anywhere, wouldn't mind giving it ago? Any ideas?--

Sorry marc, full game here but very well worth having if your into bike games or even just racing games. The replays are the most amazing Ive seen since GT3 on the PS2.

[Edited by Jye_0 - 2/10/2003 12:24:30 PM]
Old 02 October 2003, 03:15 PM
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Daz, almost identical to me m8. I started off with an ATI RageIIC agp card, then to a 3dlabs Permedia II with canopus Pure 3D 6MB Voodoo card, voodoo banshee, twin 12mb voodoo 2's, voodoo 3 3000AGP, then jumped ship to Nvidia.

Cheers,

Nick

[Edited by Mr Footlong - 2/10/2003 3:15:50 PM]
Old 02 October 2003, 10:53 PM
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Catalyst 3.1 drivers are out!!!
16bit AA enabled as well as speed improvements

[Edited by Daz34 - 2/10/2003 10:54:25 PM]
Old 02 November 2003, 02:12 PM
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Christian, did you actually manage to read my post? Let alone proper fx reviews on the web?

Go to the below, laugh at the pictures, then listen to the mp3 on the last post. Then you will see why the piccies are so apt

http://80.177.63.18:7883/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=308

Cheers,

Nick

[Edited by Mr Footlong - 2/11/2003 2:13:00 PM]
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