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27 June 2001 | 03:05 PM
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Ok I am in a similar situation, looked at the websites and mags. The best I think could find was this THOMSON 28WF45ES (100hz, 28", Flat Screen). Comet have it in a £549 which looked very reasonable, especially given the price of everything else there!
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27 June 2001 | 03:25 PM
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chiark,
Ive got a Tosh 32WD98B
got it just before christmas, and its excellent. If you look back, there was some discussion about them about then.
Robertio gave me some good leads, I ordered over the web in the end. Was about a 2 week delay as Toshiba couldnt supply enough to satisfy demand.
One thing to watch is the mask in the display can be offputting on some if you sit too close, the Tosh is one of these. If you sit closeish, bear this in mind.
Its funny, but 32" wide seemed massive, not its just normal.
I liked the TOSH as its got built in decoding, so I didnt need a sep decoder for DVD as I couldnt really afford a decent setup at that point. Plus I would prefer to buy a couple of generations later on, and use the built in for now.
robski
Ive got a Tosh 32WD98B
got it just before christmas, and its excellent. If you look back, there was some discussion about them about then.
Robertio gave me some good leads, I ordered over the web in the end. Was about a 2 week delay as Toshiba couldnt supply enough to satisfy demand.
One thing to watch is the mask in the display can be offputting on some if you sit too close, the Tosh is one of these. If you sit closeish, bear this in mind.
Its funny, but 32" wide seemed massive, not its just normal.
I liked the TOSH as its got built in decoding, so I didnt need a sep decoder for DVD as I couldnt really afford a decent setup at that point. Plus I would prefer to buy a couple of generations later on, and use the built in for now.
robski
27 June 2001 | 06:00 PM
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The other thing is that the stuff from them is factory refurbished, so God only knows what it actually costs them 
- Cheers anyhow, will keep an eye on it as it could be what I want. but i want a stand too 
Robski-
I'll have a look at the Tosh stuff. Any links that you can think of off the top of your head?
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- Cheers anyhow, will keep an eye on it as it could be what I want. but i want a stand too Robski-
I'll have a look at the Tosh stuff. Any links that you can think of off the top of your head?
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27 June 2001 | 10:15 PM
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It's obvious Robski is happy with his Tosh, I was so close to getting one, but I saw a 'flicker' on the screen which I didn't with Panny/Sony 100hz screens.
Horses for courses.
One other thing, most TV's can look anything from cack to superb depending on what the salesshop is showing, quality of aerial etc.
ie DVDs will look excellent on most TVs, however shops with cackky aerials replicated around the store make the TVs look really bad.
Also get hold of the remote and play with the settings, mucking around with the artificial enhancements ie sharpness, PI etc made huge differences to the piccie quality IMHO.
HTH
Greg
Horses for courses.
One other thing, most TV's can look anything from cack to superb depending on what the salesshop is showing, quality of aerial etc.
ie DVDs will look excellent on most TVs, however shops with cackky aerials replicated around the store make the TVs look really bad.
Also get hold of the remote and play with the settings, mucking around with the artificial enhancements ie sharpness, PI etc made huge differences to the piccie quality IMHO.
HTH
Greg
28 June 2001 | 01:41 AM
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Hi all.
With 50hz large screen TV's some people can see the interlaced frames as a flicker. It can give headaches or just get on your nerves.
100hz scan does remove this prop.
Still over the moon with my Sony FX65.
One point to consider if you aren't putting the audio through a stereo or AV amp, the Sony in TV speakers are great.
Ian
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With 50hz large screen TV's some people can see the interlaced frames as a flicker. It can give headaches or just get on your nerves.
100hz scan does remove this prop.
Still over the moon with my Sony FX65.
One point to consider if you aren't putting the audio through a stereo or AV amp, the Sony in TV speakers are great.
Ian
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28 June 2001 | 09:26 AM
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Went into dixons yesterday. "You need 100MegaHertz because the picture will be twice as sharp".
That's one helluva refresh rate. Morons annoy me...
Catalog Bargain Shop has 25% off widescreens at the moment.. 32 inch hitachi flat-ish for 599... Think I'll get something that I'm completely happy with, and the Sony KV32FX65 is tempting me at the right price...
Nick.
That's one helluva refresh rate. Morons annoy me...
Catalog Bargain Shop has 25% off widescreens at the moment.. 32 inch hitachi flat-ish for 599... Think I'll get something that I'm completely happy with, and the Sony KV32FX65 is tempting me at the right price...
Nick.
28 June 2001 | 10:06 AM
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*** Begin Ramble ***
I honestly don't know what difference the 100MHz makes. Some say you get more "fuzz" on digital pictures e.g. Sky because of the interaction of the original Digital encoding and then digital enhancement.
It doesn't seem too bad on mine. I've played with the various tweaks but can't really see huge differences.
The one good thing about the Sony is its different wide-screen modes and its intelligience about whether to show the picture in widescreen or the compromise mode you select for 4:3 pictures. With a large sample to compare (i.e. My Sony & Neigbours Cheapish Widescreen) the Sony is miles ahead. I very very rarely have to manually change the widescreen mode. On the neigbours as you flick around sky channels, there is a constant need to manually change the TV to Keep up.
The one big disappointment when I got mine was the quality of the picture from my PSX. The screen is just too big and shows up the lack of resolution because you sit too close.
Havent got PS2 yet so can't say if its different. DVDs look incredible though.
*** End of Ramble ***
Dean
I honestly don't know what difference the 100MHz makes. Some say you get more "fuzz" on digital pictures e.g. Sky because of the interaction of the original Digital encoding and then digital enhancement.
It doesn't seem too bad on mine. I've played with the various tweaks but can't really see huge differences.
The one good thing about the Sony is its different wide-screen modes and its intelligience about whether to show the picture in widescreen or the compromise mode you select for 4:3 pictures. With a large sample to compare (i.e. My Sony & Neigbours Cheapish Widescreen) the Sony is miles ahead. I very very rarely have to manually change the widescreen mode. On the neigbours as you flick around sky channels, there is a constant need to manually change the TV to Keep up.
The one big disappointment when I got mine was the quality of the picture from my PSX. The screen is just too big and shows up the lack of resolution because you sit too close.
Havent got PS2 yet so can't say if its different. DVDs look incredible though.
*** End of Ramble ***
Dean
02 July 2001 | 09:33 AM
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Just to close this off, thanks for all the input.
We bought a Sony KV32FX65 at the weekend from the Leeds Sony Centre. 899, including stand, for a factory reconditioned. Also paid an extra 50 quid for a 5 year guarantee on it, just in case there's any problems with it being a recon.
Interest free credit, too
We bought a Sony KV32FX65 at the weekend from the Leeds Sony Centre. 899, including stand, for a factory reconditioned. Also paid an extra 50 quid for a 5 year guarantee on it, just in case there's any problems with it being a recon.
Interest free credit, too
02 July 2001 | 12:56 PM
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Forgot the review bit...
The picture is quite simply stunning, especially from DVD source. Coupled with our Pioneer 636, it is gobsmacking, particularly on stuff like Toy Story 2. Colours are vibrant, no hint of ghosting or anything. Really, really stunning!
I keep watching things, from normal broadcasts to videos to DVDs and just keep saying, "bugger me, that's a good picture" followed by the obligatory "but it should be".
When I first unpacked and plugged it in, the picture appeared rotated and I was about to take it back. Then I found the "rotation" option in the simple menu system... "Due to variances in the earth's magnetic field, your picture may need aligning to be perfectly flat". It's a feature of the TV!
Damn impressive, even on a normal arial. Still, we did come from a cheap 21", so there should be a hell of a difference as this one was four times the cost of the last one.
Input flexibility is good - 3 Scarts (1 of which is RGB and the other two are composite/SVHS). Stereo audio out helps to make things simple with wiring to the stereo, and the level control for the audio out is separately controlled which is nice.
The menu system is good and simple, so gets my vote.
The "smart" handling of screen format (ie widescreen/4:3/mix as BBC analogue is) is pretty damn good, and I haven't had to adjust it once.
All in all, dead impressed!
The picture is quite simply stunning, especially from DVD source. Coupled with our Pioneer 636, it is gobsmacking, particularly on stuff like Toy Story 2. Colours are vibrant, no hint of ghosting or anything. Really, really stunning!
I keep watching things, from normal broadcasts to videos to DVDs and just keep saying, "bugger me, that's a good picture" followed by the obligatory "but it should be".
When I first unpacked and plugged it in, the picture appeared rotated and I was about to take it back. Then I found the "rotation" option in the simple menu system... "Due to variances in the earth's magnetic field, your picture may need aligning to be perfectly flat". It's a feature of the TV!
Damn impressive, even on a normal arial. Still, we did come from a cheap 21", so there should be a hell of a difference as this one was four times the cost of the last one.
Input flexibility is good - 3 Scarts (1 of which is RGB and the other two are composite/SVHS). Stereo audio out helps to make things simple with wiring to the stereo, and the level control for the audio out is separately controlled which is nice.
The menu system is good and simple, so gets my vote.
The "smart" handling of screen format (ie widescreen/4:3/mix as BBC analogue is) is pretty damn good, and I haven't had to adjust it once.
All in all, dead impressed!
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