POC

I accept your apology

jgc

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/origin/chapter4.html

Diablo

And now I'm closing the thread.

The points have been made

Regards

D

jonny gav

iTrader: (1)

its not about how good they look in my eyes, the fact is they are still men!
going on looks alone is very shallow.

all in my opinion!

[Edited by jonny gav - 3/4/2003 9:56:19 AM]

jgc

Yes

[Edited by Jason Crozier - 3/4/2003 10:12:04 AM]

midget1500

TK - okay, I give up. you are right. i should now actively seek out TG people and sleep with them and tell everyone else that they too should so these people do not feel left out. then, as a bonus i won't be some sort of freak myself for not wanting to sleep with a MAN. yes, that's right. to me, sleeping with a TG person is no different than sleeping with someone of the same sex. oh no, i don't want to sleep with members of the same sex either. i really am in trouble

i really don't think we can conduct a sensible debate on this as it is just as futile as debating the existence of a God (incidently i don't believe in God either).

it is a pity that the last thread was muppetised but somewhat inevitable.

editied to say : i HATE mushrooms, i don't understand how anyone can like them and i've yet to receive an adequate explaination as to why some people like them. perhaps i could start a thread about this?

[Edited by midget1500 - 3/4/2003 10:22:46 AM]

midget1500

TK - sorry, just to add - clearly you have NO problem whatsoever with TG people. some people do. you want to know why. you ask. we answer. you say that's not good enough. so, i ask you, what is the point of this 2nd thread? do you think someone is going to try and defend their personal views and instinct only to be told that they are wrong in both fact and principle?

when someone says "i feel..." then you cannot expect a serious debate to arise because peoples emotions come in to play. all you can say is "i think..." and why.

so - are you trying to convince us all that you are a better person than the rest of us? heck, it wouldn't be hard to be a better person than me!

there is no right and wrong here. though you are making some people feel like they are a******s because they have differing views than yourself.

now please, see the futility in all of this and step of your soap box now...

steven

edited : <<would you sleep with this?>> so, the person is an object as well? i wouldn't say yes to a photo of anyone with that questioned posed. that decision would be made on knowing and being in love with the person.

so, TK, you would sleep with someone just because you think they look nice? why is that? can you please explain to me how you can be so incredibly shallow? i just don't see how that makes sense.(sorry - that sounds a bit harsh and like somewhat of a personal attack, it's not, just trying to make my point )

[Edited by midget1500 - 3/4/2003 10:36:18 AM]

merkin

Here here tiggs. without the wigs, the faces all look like blokes with bet lynch make up on to me...


edit to say the second pic looks the most plausible woman to me, but still wouldnt be convinced

[Edited by merkin - 3/4/2003 10:36:08 AM]

TurboKitty

I think you'll find I was using the term TG to avoid splitting people into groups.

Nevertheless, TGs and TVs are distinct and different groups with their own characteristics. Is recognising the difference between different religions discrimination? No, and nor is recognising the difference between different types of transgendered people.

[Edited by TurboKitty - 3/4/2003 10:48:12 AM]

Tiggs

"The only people I look down on are people narrow-minded enough to discriminate against people based on social conditioning. "

errr, so what? aren't we allowed to discriminate against ppl when it comes to chossing who we sleep with?

personaly i'd discriminate against some rough old slapper, a smoker, drug user, overly loud person, person with no sense of humour, wacko who spent all her time on the PC, etc, etc.

my choice tough *******.

T

edit to add the tough ******* means hard luck as opposed to suggesting my choice of partner needs tough *******

[Edited by Tiggs - 3/4/2003 10:49:18 AM]