Guns n'roses rediscovered (Use you illusion I & II)
11 March 2003, 09:17 AM
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some more bands/artists to ponder that ive seen -
warrant
aerosmith
thunder
little angels (saw them about 3 times, even have a tattoo based on there logo lol)
satriani (slightly easier to listen to then solo vai imo, tho like them both)
living colour
kingdom come
whitesnake (worst gig i ever went to)
here's a thought for a new rock related thread, bands you would like to have seen live....
Top of my list would have to be queen, followed by GNR i think.
warrant
aerosmith
thunder
little angels (saw them about 3 times, even have a tattoo based on there logo lol)
satriani (slightly easier to listen to then solo vai imo, tho like them both)
living colour
kingdom come
whitesnake (worst gig i ever went to)
here's a thought for a new rock related thread, bands you would like to have seen live....
Top of my list would have to be queen, followed by GNR i think.
11 March 2003, 09:22 AM
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Deffo needed to see Queen live... After that Aerosmith again (seen GNR several times) 
Seeing Thunder again in May
Anyone going to see Bon Jovi in Hyde Park in June?
Seeing Thunder again in May
Anyone going to see Bon Jovi in Hyde Park in June?
11 March 2003, 09:29 AM
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PTHolt where did you see Little Angels play? They played locally in Tonbridge and I expected it to be cr@p due to the venue but they were superb live I actually had ringing in my ears for days and days afterwards because it was such a small venue yet the setup was for a much larger venue and was deafening 
I actually had ringing in my ears for days and days afterwards because it was such a small venue yet the setup was for a much larger venue and was deafening
11 March 2003, 09:54 AM
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I have borrowed my brother's Napalm Death album, it does have some form of rythym somewhere.
You go into the realms of Fear Factory, Cradle of Filth and all that lot......of which I have a couple of albums. Yep, my music tastes are very broad and varied!!!
You go into the realms of Fear Factory, Cradle of Filth and all that lot......of which I have a couple of albums.
Yep, my music tastes are very broad and varied!!!
11 March 2003, 10:20 AM
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Yeah the leisure centre gig was superb for such a silly venue. To me they sounded better live there than what they did on cd, I walked away from that gig very impressed.
I never got to see GNR and Metallica when they played together at Milton Keynes because it was when I was doing my GCSE's and then my A levels, and although I contemplated missing the exams I decided that wouldn't have been the best decision I would have ever made
Regret it now as I never got to see my ideal line up 
I never got to see GNR and Metallica when they played together at Milton Keynes because it was when I was doing my GCSE's and then my A levels, and although I contemplated missing the exams I decided that wouldn't have been the best decision I would have ever made
Regret it now as I never got to see my ideal line up
11 March 2003, 12:31 PM
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Good list MattW, especially the exceedingly cool WASP, Y&T and the Daddy - Dio. But you are missing a few:
Demon, Scorpions (early stuff not euro wimp), Saxon, Judas Priest, UFO, Michael Schenker Group, Rainbow, Thin Lizzy, Blackfoot, Black Sabbath, Sammy Hagar, Montrose.
This is still pretty much the main stuff I listen to. I have a rule in my Corvette that I won't listen to anything made after the car, so it is all pre-1980.
Best gigs:
- Sammy Hagar (Birmingham Odeon '82)
- AC/DC, Blackfoot, Slade etc (Donnington '81)
- U2 (Joshua Tree Tour, Wembley '87)
- Kiss (Reunion Tour, Wembley '98?, no song younger than '79)
Worst gig - undoubtedly UFO in 82. Phil Mogg was ****faced and forgot the words to Doctor Doctor.
I still go to sad milk it a bit more gigs. In the last couple of years saw Saxon, Priest, Dio (unbelievable voice), Maiden and Graham Oliver's Saxon (actually better than Biff's main band). I'm 37 and I still dive on the floor for plectrums, what a tosser, but it is fun.
And The Bands Played On.....
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Demon, Scorpions (early stuff not euro wimp), Saxon, Judas Priest, UFO, Michael Schenker Group, Rainbow, Thin Lizzy, Blackfoot, Black Sabbath, Sammy Hagar, Montrose.
This is still pretty much the main stuff I listen to. I have a rule in my Corvette that I won't listen to anything made after the car, so it is all pre-1980.
Best gigs:
- Sammy Hagar (Birmingham Odeon '82)
- AC/DC, Blackfoot, Slade etc (Donnington '81)
- U2 (Joshua Tree Tour, Wembley '87)
- Kiss (Reunion Tour, Wembley '98?, no song younger than '79)
Worst gig - undoubtedly UFO in 82. Phil Mogg was ****faced and forgot the words to Doctor Doctor.
I still go to sad milk it a bit more gigs. In the last couple of years saw Saxon, Priest, Dio (unbelievable voice), Maiden and Graham Oliver's Saxon (actually better than Biff's main band). I'm 37 and I still dive on the floor for plectrums, what a tosser, but it is fun.
And The Bands Played On.....
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11 March 2003, 12:40 PM
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ooo msg, they were the support to whitesake when i saw them, though i seem to remember it was called the 'mcauley schenker group' or something like that at that stage....
saxon hehe i lived in barnsley for a while and got into them whilst there
saxon hehe i lived in barnsley for a while and got into them whilst there
11 March 2003, 01:07 PM
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None Prouder - Those groups were a little before my time. I'm 31 now and most of those bands had their heydey between 77 and 82. My first record was ACDC's "Rock n roll aint noise pollution" in 81. Other stuff like Van Halen(although 1984 was class) passed me by.
Like most other rock fans I was an all or nothing fan, if I bought one album, I'd get everything they ever did. i have to admit "use your illusion" i and ii were a big disappointment after "appetite". I never understood why they didn't ditch the rubbish and release one album of great material.
The internet has been a good source of stuff for me, songs like 747-Strangers in the night(Saxon), Dont Stop Believing(Journey), Paranoid (Black Sabbath) all great tracks from bands that I wouldn't necessarily buy albums from.
PS - if anyones got a copy of the FM live album(internet only) I'd be interested in listening to it.
None Prouder - Those groups were a little before my time. I'm 31 now and most of those bands had their heydey between 77 and 82. My first record was ACDC's "Rock n roll aint noise pollution" in 81. Other stuff like Van Halen(although 1984 was class) passed me by.
Like most other rock fans I was an all or nothing fan, if I bought one album, I'd get everything they ever did. i have to admit "use your illusion" i and ii were a big disappointment after "appetite". I never understood why they didn't ditch the rubbish and release one album of great material.
The internet has been a good source of stuff for me, songs like 747-Strangers in the night(Saxon), Dont Stop Believing(Journey), Paranoid (Black Sabbath) all great tracks from bands that I wouldn't necessarily buy albums from.
PS - if anyones got a copy of the FM live album(internet only) I'd be interested in listening to it.
11 March 2003, 01:12 PM
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FM lol, was the only band i really didnt like, they were a pet hate of mine hehehe didnt stop me having something on cd though, can't remember what tho.....
I remember seeing Marillion about 4 times on one tour and getting thoroughly narked off with the same support band, cant remember there name but the only song anyone knew 'calling all the heroes'
god i hated that song after 4 nights...
I remember seeing Marillion about 4 times on one tour and getting thoroughly narked off with the same support band, cant remember there name but the only song anyone knew 'calling all the heroes'
god i hated that song after 4 nights...
11 March 2003, 01:22 PM
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Beltane Fire on the Misplaced tour?
Last saw Marillion on the Radiation tour, also been to the yearly bash at the Walls restaurant in Oswestry. Been to tens of Fish \ Marillion gigs, been disappointed with latest offerings from both artists.
Last gig was Big Country in 2000 with The Alarm supporting, Wolverhampton Civic, top venue.
FM were a top live band, used to go regularly to see them at Buckley Tivoli, they were always supporting Magnum.
Last saw Marillion on the Radiation tour, also been to the yearly bash at the Walls restaurant in Oswestry. Been to tens of Fish \ Marillion gigs, been disappointed with latest offerings from both artists.
Last gig was Big Country in 2000 with The Alarm supporting, Wolverhampton Civic, top venue.
FM were a top live band, used to go regularly to see them at Buckley Tivoli, they were always supporting Magnum.
albums
11 March 2003, 01:30 PM
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beltane fire HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i remember seeing them on the misplaced tour at the glasgow sec, i actually quite liked it enough to buy the album which ive still got, was a VERY strange album! Most of my friends hated it.
i gave up on the marillos after holidays in eden, really wasnt enjoying it anymore, have got all there newer stuff but it leaves me cold.
Fish's solo stuff is a little more enjoyable but i've ended up with two average bands instead of one i loved
thats where id seen FM from, magnum gigs!
also remember seeing heavy pettin support magnum, and thunder,stage dolls, roko and god knows how many other bands just startin out.
seem to remember magnum are back together.... have got some bob catley solo cds which are average at best.
i remember seeing them on the misplaced tour at the glasgow sec, i actually quite liked it enough to buy the album which ive still got, was a VERY strange album! Most of my friends hated it.
i gave up on the marillos after holidays in eden, really wasnt enjoying it anymore, have got all there newer stuff but it leaves me cold.
Fish's solo stuff is a little more enjoyable but i've ended up with two average bands instead of one i loved
thats where id seen FM from, magnum gigs!
also remember seeing heavy pettin support magnum, and thunder,stage dolls, roko and god knows how many other bands just startin out.
seem to remember magnum are back together.... have got some bob catley solo cds which are average at best.
11 March 2003, 01:39 PM
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Holidays was mediocre, "afraid of sunlight", "brave" and "this strange engine" are fantastic albums. Do yourself a favour give them a really good listen.
I've got the new Magnum album, not a patch on "Storytellers night" or "Vigilante"
Can't believe you bought the BF album, that double bass killed me!!!LOL They were sh1te, really sh1te.
I've got the new Magnum album, not a patch on "Storytellers night" or "Vigilante"
Can't believe you bought the BF album, that double bass killed me!!!LOL They were sh1te, really sh1te.
11 March 2003, 01:58 PM
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So who was the best guitarist?
Personally, I much prefer Satriani to Vai (much more melodic to my ears.)
Still reckon Van Halen was one of the very best...
Personally, I much prefer Satriani to Vai (much more melodic to my ears.)
Still reckon Van Halen was one of the very best...
11 March 2003, 03:48 PM
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Estranged is fantastic. Love that song big time.
I'm more a early Yngwie guitar person - love all the early albums - favourite being the fantastic 'Trilogy', with 'Crying' my favourite song ever.
I'm more a early Yngwie guitar person - love all the early albums - favourite being the fantastic 'Trilogy', with 'Crying' my favourite song ever.
11 March 2003, 04:36 PM
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Well, best guitarist is a tricky one. You need to separate out technique from soul/expression from songwriting IMHO.
No doubt that technically each new generation gets better, as they should because they are building on what has gone before. To bew honest I can't really distinguish between Satriani and Vai, neither really do it for me, but I think they are the most accomplished at the moment. I prefer Yngwie's more melodic classical style, but i think he lags just behind in technique.
However, none of them would be anywhere without the Hendrix, Page, Blackmore, Iommi, Schenker work (yes I know Clapton, Beck etc also but they were more pure blues rather than the cross-over to rock). Of course that all culminated in Eddie Van Halen who was light years ahead of his generation, but unfortunately couldn't write a song to save his life.
For song and solo writing, I would have to look at Randy Rhoads (great name), Tipton/Downing (Judas Priest), Murray/Smith (Iron Maiden), Oliver (Saxon), Young (AC/DC - don't give me the crap about easy to play, who gives a toss, he could write fantastic riffs and solos and then play them while rolling around the stage or being carried through the crowd, and another thing he was playing hammer on/offs in the late 70's, listen to the solo on the live versions of Let There Be Rock) and Iommi and Michael Schenker. Not to forget Mr Stephen Rothery, one of the best yet most unappreciated guitarists around - unfortunately it all went wrong when Fish left as far as I am concerned.
Of the more modern era, Slash and Sambora lead the way. Both can write songs and great solos.
Overall though, the undoubted king has to be Alex Lifeson. For the youngsters out there he is the guitarist in Rush. Ignore everything after Moving Pictures in 1981. He was doing stuff the rest weren't even dreaming of. In the early days he was derivative of Jimmy Page, but then as he matured his range was incredible, La Villa Strangiato anyone? He also wrote the best "song" of all time, 2112. In about 18 minutes it encapsulates everything I love about rock music, including one of the best solo breaks of all time.
No more time at the moment so soul/expression and best solos of all time to follow - other than, listen to the solo on Dallas 1pm (Saxon, Strong Arm Of The Law), short, structured and that's how to make a guitar talk. MattW, you are lucky, you have still to discover the best era in rock music. Buy this CD. You can get a double CD of this and Wheels OF Steel with extra live tracks on both.
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No doubt that technically each new generation gets better, as they should because they are building on what has gone before. To bew honest I can't really distinguish between Satriani and Vai, neither really do it for me, but I think they are the most accomplished at the moment. I prefer Yngwie's more melodic classical style, but i think he lags just behind in technique.
However, none of them would be anywhere without the Hendrix, Page, Blackmore, Iommi, Schenker work (yes I know Clapton, Beck etc also but they were more pure blues rather than the cross-over to rock). Of course that all culminated in Eddie Van Halen who was light years ahead of his generation, but unfortunately couldn't write a song to save his life.
For song and solo writing, I would have to look at Randy Rhoads (great name), Tipton/Downing (Judas Priest), Murray/Smith (Iron Maiden), Oliver (Saxon), Young (AC/DC - don't give me the crap about easy to play, who gives a toss, he could write fantastic riffs and solos and then play them while rolling around the stage or being carried through the crowd, and another thing he was playing hammer on/offs in the late 70's, listen to the solo on the live versions of Let There Be Rock) and Iommi and Michael Schenker. Not to forget Mr Stephen Rothery, one of the best yet most unappreciated guitarists around - unfortunately it all went wrong when Fish left as far as I am concerned.
Of the more modern era, Slash and Sambora lead the way. Both can write songs and great solos.
Overall though, the undoubted king has to be Alex Lifeson. For the youngsters out there he is the guitarist in Rush. Ignore everything after Moving Pictures in 1981. He was doing stuff the rest weren't even dreaming of. In the early days he was derivative of Jimmy Page, but then as he matured his range was incredible, La Villa Strangiato anyone? He also wrote the best "song" of all time, 2112. In about 18 minutes it encapsulates everything I love about rock music, including one of the best solo breaks of all time.
No more time at the moment so soul/expression and best solos of all time to follow - other than, listen to the solo on Dallas 1pm (Saxon, Strong Arm Of The Law), short, structured and that's how to make a guitar talk. MattW, you are lucky, you have still to discover the best era in rock music. Buy this CD. You can get a double CD of this and Wheels OF Steel with extra live tracks on both.
Opinionated, me!
None Prouder
11 March 2003, 06:21 PM
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Some of the bands I was into then, and proudly still belt them out today include:
Queensryche, Crimson Glory, Whitesnake, Dokken, Anthrax, Slayer, Blue Murder, Bonfire, Great White, Cacophony, Dare, Dan Reed Network, Dream Theatre, Fates Warning, Giant, Freak of Nature, House of Lords, Jimmy Barnes, satriani, Winger, Vai, Yngwie, Night ranger, Ozzy, Pearl Jam, TNT, Tony MacAlpine, FM, Jason Becker, Marty Friedman, Joey Tafolla, Vinnie Moore, Vicious Rumors, XYZ and Y&T.
As you can see a very wide variation in the rock theme.
Anyone got and wants to see a copy of FM's 'Indiscreet' album - I've been trying to get this, or acopy for years.
Queensryche, Crimson Glory, Whitesnake, Dokken, Anthrax, Slayer, Blue Murder, Bonfire, Great White, Cacophony, Dare, Dan Reed Network, Dream Theatre, Fates Warning, Giant, Freak of Nature, House of Lords, Jimmy Barnes, satriani, Winger, Vai, Yngwie, Night ranger, Ozzy, Pearl Jam, TNT, Tony MacAlpine, FM, Jason Becker, Marty Friedman, Joey Tafolla, Vinnie Moore, Vicious Rumors, XYZ and Y&T.
As you can see a very wide variation in the rock theme.
Anyone got and wants to see a copy of FM's 'Indiscreet' album - I've been trying to get this, or a
copy for years.
11 March 2003, 10:19 PM
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Best vocalist for me is Geoff Tate of Queensryche
Drummer - the guy from dream theatre - boy he can work a crowd!!
Bassist - difficult one this, probably Billy Sheehan (Mr Big).
Guitarist - Yngwie
Keyboard - hmm...Gregg Guiffria (HOL).
These are the guys I've seen.
best gig for me was Crimson Glory in 1988 'transcendence' tour.
Drummer - the guy from dream theatre - boy he can work a crowd!!
Bassist - difficult one this, probably Billy Sheehan (Mr Big).
Guitarist - Yngwie
Keyboard - hmm...Gregg Guiffria (HOL).
These are the guys I've seen.
best gig for me was Crimson Glory in 1988 'transcendence' tour.
11 March 2003, 10:25 PM
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In fact this thread is dangerous, i've just been been going through some of the above bands discography and noticed several of them had reformed or started up again!!
so i've just found out the following have some cd's out that i need to locate lol.
thunder - couple of live albums plus one from morely and bowes. Also playing in a few months -
Thunder 05/18/2003 Glasgow Academy Glasgow UK
Thunder 05/19/2003 Manchester Academy Manchester UK
Thunder 05/20/2003 Rock City Nottingham UK
Thunder 05/22/2003 Civic Hall Wolverhampton UK
Thunder 05/23/2003 Astoria London UK
Thunder 05/24/2003 Corn Exchange Cambridge UK
Magnum - recent album out, and bob catley touring solo -
23 May - Southampton - The Brook
24 May - Stourbridge - The Rock Cafe 2000
25 May - Bradford - THE GODS - Penningtons
26 May - Crewe - The Limelight
27 May - Newcastle - Trillians
28 May - Ashton Under Lyne - The Witchwood
30 May - London - The Underworld
31 May - Oxford - The Bullingdon
1 June - Essex - The Soundhouse
2 June - TBC
3 June - Glasgow - The Renfrew Ferry
4 June - Sheffield - The Boardwalk
Saxon - quite a few newer albums also touring lol
April 3rd 2003 Zeppelinhalle Kaufbeuren Germany
April 4th 2003 RockHouse Salzburg Austria
April 5th 2003 Spodek - Metal Mania Festival Katowice Poland
April 7th 2003 Musiktheater Kassel Germany
FESTIVAL TOUR 2003
June 1st 2003 Hirson - Rotande Festival Near Lille France
June 8th 2003 - 5pm Gods Of Metal Festival Monza Italy
June 8th 2003 - 11pm Rock Hard Festival Gelsenkirchen Germany
August 24th 2003 Metalfest Festival Wien Austria
September 20th 2003 Grugahalle (with DORO) Essen Germany
Then i found another band from the same era that i also saw supportting magnum and possible maiden as well called 'shy' they had a cracking album called 'excess all areas' but i lost track of them afterwards (no web in those days) turns out they have about 7 albums out now and are still going! DOH yet more cds to buy!
shame i cant find a rock/metal version of kazaa
so i've just found out the following have some cd's out that i need to locate lol.
thunder - couple of live albums plus one from morely and bowes. Also playing in a few months -
Thunder 05/18/2003 Glasgow Academy Glasgow UK
Thunder 05/19/2003 Manchester Academy Manchester UK
Thunder 05/20/2003 Rock City Nottingham UK
Thunder 05/22/2003 Civic Hall Wolverhampton UK
Thunder 05/23/2003 Astoria London UK
Thunder 05/24/2003 Corn Exchange Cambridge UK
Magnum - recent album out, and bob catley touring solo -
23 May - Southampton - The Brook
24 May - Stourbridge - The Rock Cafe 2000
25 May - Bradford - THE GODS - Penningtons
26 May - Crewe - The Limelight
27 May - Newcastle - Trillians
28 May - Ashton Under Lyne - The Witchwood
30 May - London - The Underworld
31 May - Oxford - The Bullingdon
1 June - Essex - The Soundhouse
2 June - TBC
3 June - Glasgow - The Renfrew Ferry
4 June - Sheffield - The Boardwalk
Saxon - quite a few newer albums also touring lol
April 3rd 2003 Zeppelinhalle Kaufbeuren Germany
April 4th 2003 RockHouse Salzburg Austria
April 5th 2003 Spodek - Metal Mania Festival Katowice Poland
April 7th 2003 Musiktheater Kassel Germany
FESTIVAL TOUR 2003
June 1st 2003 Hirson - Rotande Festival Near Lille France
June 8th 2003 - 5pm Gods Of Metal Festival Monza Italy
June 8th 2003 - 11pm Rock Hard Festival Gelsenkirchen Germany
August 24th 2003 Metalfest Festival Wien Austria
September 20th 2003 Grugahalle (with DORO) Essen Germany
Then i found another band from the same era that i also saw supportting magnum and possible maiden as well called 'shy' they had a cracking album called 'excess all areas' but i lost track of them afterwards (no web in those days) turns out they have about 7 albums out now and are still going! DOH yet more cds to buy!
shame i cant find a rock/metal version of kazaa
11 March 2003, 11:12 PM
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On a slightly side note from the main issue in this thread - I notice there is mention of Satriani, Vai, Moore and Malmsteen. Does that mean we have some true guitarheads on board? Aside from the trad rock? If so, a new thread is indeed in order....
11 March 2003, 11:57 PM
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Overall though, the undoubted king has to be Alex Lifeson. For the youngsters out there he is the guitarist in Rush. Ignore everything after Moving Pictures in 1981. He was doing stuff the rest weren't even dreaming of. In the early days he was derivative of Jimmy Page, but then as he matured his range was incredible, La Villa Strangiato anyone? He also wrote the best "song" of all time, 2112. In about 18 minutes it encapsulates everything I love about rock music, including one of the best solo breaks of all time.