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Old 19 March 2003, 12:42 PM
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Good luck, but I don't believe they're obliged to honour the order by law
Old 19 March 2003, 12:48 PM
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If anyone manages to get one of these iPAQs for £7, then I'll eat my hat

Has this type of thing not happened before and they simply pulled the plug on the deal - IIRC unless they've taken the money from your account, there's not a lot you can do
Old 19 March 2003, 12:48 PM
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wonder what the legalities of this are as i have got a confirmation for the 10 that i ordered
Old 19 March 2003, 12:49 PM
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I got in with an order for 5 and received a confirmation just before they closed the site. Bit gutted that I didn't qualify for free Post & Packing tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HA!!! lmfao!!!!!!!!!

Just waiting for the email now explaining that I can't actually have them at that price!!
Old 19 March 2003, 12:51 PM
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If they offer it and enough of us have placed orders then they surely must have to honor the avertised price.

Any legal heads on here know?
Old 19 March 2003, 12:51 PM
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It might come down to whether you "reasonably expected" to receive the goods.

I ordered in good faith, as I wanted one.

Amazon will be currently going through this with a fine toothed comb. I am unaware if this has happened to them before...
Old 19 March 2003, 12:55 PM
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How could they prove that you didn't want one. Regardless of the price.

If you see something in a shop at a wrong price then you can demand that they sell it to you at the advertised price so this can't be any different.

Trades discription act possibly?
Old 19 March 2003, 01:00 PM
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thanks for the tip. just ordered one. amazon.co.uk is shut, but it seems to be allowing access through the secure login to the checkout if you had managed to put one in the basket.

good luck !
Old 19 March 2003, 01:00 PM
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If you see something in a shop at a wrong price then you can demand that they sell it to you at the advertised price so this can't be any different
No you can't, mate, sorry.

Its only an offer to sell. If, however, you have received confirmation of your order then that is likely to be deemed to be a completed contract and you may have a case.

I supect there will be stock "issues" with this one, though..LOL...

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Old 19 March 2003, 01:02 PM
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/29820.html has a story at the bottom of the article that the contract is only legally binding when the CC is debited.

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Old 19 March 2003, 01:32 PM
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page has now gone and my basket is now empty
there is also a strange little picture of a man apparently putting the boot in on the page

[Edited by mattstant - 19/03/2003 13:46:34]
Old 19 March 2003, 01:35 PM
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My current status:

Items Not Yet Dispatched
Delivery estimate: March 31 - April 7
1 of: HP iPAQ H1910 Pocket PC
Old 19 March 2003, 01:39 PM
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The HP pocket pcs are no longer available on the site. I suspect amazon may choose to just not stock the items whatsoever, and never sell them.

Mine is due to be dispatched in 1-2 weeks (31 March to April 7 as above)

[Edited by chiark - 19/03/2003 13:42:30]
Old 19 March 2003, 01:42 PM
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A collegue managed to get an order in, but my connection failed me.... I hope whoever got through manages to get one
Old 19 March 2003, 01:50 PM
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Ive got two on order and received a confirmation email but read this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2864461.stm
Old 19 March 2003, 01:54 PM
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Amazon was not immediately available for comment but customer services have told at least one customer that the price would be honoured.
Old 19 March 2003, 02:04 PM
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http://www.jonnyclark.com/amazon.html

Old 19 March 2003, 02:16 PM
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BBC news ticker now says "Amazon shuts up shop temporarily due to pricing errors"
Old 19 March 2003, 02:18 PM
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See :

bbc news link

Quotes one customer as saying that Amazon said price will be honoured!!!!!

[Edited by imlach - 19/03/2003 14:19:39]
Old 19 March 2003, 02:31 PM
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BBC News Page has been updated and now reads:-

"Amazon issued a statement admitting the error and cancelling the orders which had been placed at the incorrect price.

The firm said that its pricing policy allowed it to contact customers and offer them the product at the true price should an error occur."

The bastids! Well nobody has contacted me about it!

Old 19 March 2003, 02:31 PM
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Amazon wins small-claims fight over price mistakes

By Monica Soto
Seattle Times technology reporter

Does online retail giant Amazon.com have to honor a sale price listed on its Web site, even if that price is a mistake?
That's the question customer Barry Sweet posed to a District Court judge yesterday in small-claims court in the first case of its kind for the Seattle-based retailer.

At issue: Sweet purchased an RCA 36-inch television on Amazon last August. The TV, originally priced at $1,049, was marked down roughly 90 percent to $99.99.

After completing the order, Sweet said he received a confirmation e-mail and a shipping date. Two days later, Amazon notified Sweet that the price was a mistake and canceled the order.

Amazon later offered Sweet the item for the correct sale price: $849.99.

Amazon attorney David Zapolsky told the judge that the TV was part of a group of RCA products that customers could pre-order on the site. Roughly 6,000 customers ordered the TV at the incorrect price; all the orders were canceled.

Zapolsky said a unique aspect of conducting business on the Internet is that when the company makes a pricing error, that news passes quickly through cyberspace to buyers "trying to purchase it in hopes of a windfall," he said.

Zapolsky said if Amazon was forced to honor every incorrect price on its Web site, it could not stay in business.

Amazon's pricing policy holds that if an item's correct price is higher than its stated price, the company, at its discretion, will either contact the customer for instructions before shipping the item or cancel the order and notify the customer of the cancellation.

Zapolsky said a customer's credit card is not charged until the item enters the shipping process. Sweet's credit card was not charged in this instance, he said.

District Judge Eileen Kato said the case reminded her of one she studied many years ago in law school: whether a Chicago store had to honor an advertisement that incorrectly listed fur coats for sale at $1 apiece.

The lesson she gleaned from the former case: "If it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true."

Kato said the contract was not complete because Sweet's credit card had not been charged. She also said the terms of a contract are applicable, whether a customer reads it or not.

Sweet said he figured he might lose in court but wanted to bring up the point anyway. He said he bought his Christmas presents on Amazon and plans to continue shopping there.

His take: Beware a good sale. "I guess it means just because you're buying something on the Internet, it doesn't mean you're going to get it," he said
Too good to be true indeed
Old 19 March 2003, 02:43 PM
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Mines still on my account awaiting dispach and I have had no e-mail as yet so fingers and toes crossed.
Old 19 March 2003, 03:12 PM
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Me too
Old 19 March 2003, 03:16 PM
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Dream on guys!!
Old 19 March 2003, 03:44 PM
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Still no mail. It's still there.
Old 19 March 2003, 03:50 PM
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"In keeping with our Conditions of use and our Pricing and Availability Policy, we will be cancelling orders made for the HP iPAQ Pocket PCs at the incorrect price this morning. In our Pricing and Availability Policy, we state that where an item's correct price is higher than our stated price, we contact the customer before dispatching. Accordingly, customers will be contacted and offered the opportunity either to cancel their order or to place new orders for the item at the correct price. As the Conditions of Use clearly state, there is no contract between Amazon.co.uk and the customer for an item until Amazon.co.uk accepts the customer order by e-mail confirming that it has dispatched the item. Until that time, Amazon.co.uk is within its rights to not accept any customer order.
I can't see any Pricing and Avaiability polict
Old 19 March 2003, 03:53 PM
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Get a grip guys. It's not going to happen.

The amount of orders they've taken for this across the web (just on SN, even) would make a serious dent in their profits. For example, even if just 1,000 units had been ordered, that'd be a loss of £150k, and that's assuming Amazon's mark-up on the iPaqs is about £100! Bearing in mind the fact that this story made BBC news and people were ordering 50-60 of the things, I suspect the total number ordered would be more like 5-10k - giving a lost of a £250-500k....

Amazon were quoted on the radio half an hour ago saying that because no money had been debited from anyone's credit cards for these iPaqs, they were within their rights to cancel the orders. It was a nice idea, but I think you have to accept that you're not going to get your goods.

The confirmation for my 2nd order came through about 15 minutes ago, but I'm still not expecting them to actually go through with it.....
Old 19 March 2003, 03:54 PM
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So according to that quote anything that is advertised on the net can have it's price changed as long as you're told This isn't good, espically if you've spent hours looking through hundreds of pages.

So if a company wanted,

They could be using a false advertisement from the start, a company offers something cheaper than everyone else, once you've ordered they turn around and say that it's actually the same price as everyone else. You know this through the research you've just done, so buy it through them coz you were going to buy one anyway. The outcome being that that company gets the sale through a dishonest advert!!
Once several companies start doing this in 'competition' with each other the customer has no idea what the real price would be (because they will all stick the price up at the last minute) and nobody gets a good deal.

Doesn't look good for futer internet trading

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Old 19 March 2003, 03:54 PM
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From Amazon's website:
No contract will subsist between you and Amazon.co.uk* for the sale by it to you of any product unless and until Amazon.co.uk accepts your order by e-mail confirming that it has dispatched your product. That acceptance will be deemed complete and will be deemed for all purposes to have been effectively communicated to you at the time Amazon.co.uk sends the e-mail to you (whether or not you receive that e-mail).

So they are saying no contract untill you recieve confirmation that product has shipped...looks like a pretty clean cut case...damn
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edited to remove thinly disguised profanities.





[Edited by Diablo - 19/03/2003 16:24:27]


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