daiscooby

I don't know but I thank god I am a Welsh atheist.

Mice_Elf

Whatever the people living in England want it to be.

Purely dependant upon the individual.

salsa-king

LoL
amazin how everyone wants to come to England!!
ppl travel in the back of a truck etc.. half way round the world to come to treasure island.. england.
Everyone wants to learn English!!
and if your English you don't need to learn any other languange!!

and they want let you be English???

Phil

Brendan Hughes

Here we are, having a good old gossip - Luke, you started this, where the hell did you get that "not legally English" from anyway?

(yer troll )

daiscooby

Just a thought but aren't Anglo Saxons basically Germans who came for a holiday and liked the place so much they stayed ?.
And isn't the royal family Greco-gemanic ?.
So aren't English people really Germans ?.
(Runs for cover from the arrows of desire shot from the bow of burnished gold.)
Hold on, stop. If Jeruselem was builded here, then old Yassah should leave the Isreali's alone and start his protests in The Mall, not in Haifa or Tel Aviv. The Enlish ( Germans ) are occuppying Palestinian land.
Leibansraum fur da Englanders, Heil Blair, Heil Blair, Heil Blair.
De fahn hoch........

Claudius

I never understood all the fuss about being Scottish, Welsh, etc.

Clearly, if you're from the British Isles but not from Eire, then you are British.

Unlike the Queen, who is German (Habsburg) although she has British nationality LOL

planky

So diascooby if we are all German,who was in England before the Saxons came??

Btw don't flog that dead horse that the celts(especially the Welsh)were here before everybody else,cos that bolloxs

Luke

Listened to "talk radio" yesterday..they where on about it.

camk

As Diablo says, my view as a Scot is I'm British(nationality) and Scottish(home). I'm not however English which is often used as a collective term for the British.

daiscooby

Before the Germans (Angles and Saxons ) came I hate to say it I think it was the Celts . I am only half Celt so I only claim to be half Irish by decent and Welsh by birth.
But the whole point of this should be you can be where your national pride is.
I am Welsh, Mae hen wlad fy nhadau. And have passionate national pride.
But I am also intensely proud of my Irish half.
The Italian half you can forget. I was working in Contignola just outside Bologna Monday and Tuesday of this week and despite the fact I speak a bit of the lingo I kept thinking " bloody wops " even though my Mum was Italian.
But it would never enter my mind to say I was British. Even though I served the Crown for 13 years.
It's where your heart is that dictates your nationality.

[Edited by daiscooby - 17/04/2003 11:20:00]

pbee

you can understand why Johnny foreigner is confused when we dont really understand it oursleves, i suppose they think you speak english your money has the queens mug on it you are english, they probably think wales is a county or something.

daiscooby

IIRC Wales like Scotland was a united kingdom before England. .
If your talking about currency, Northern Ireland and Scotland have there own notes and Wales joins them in having its own pound coins with German Betty's mug on them granted.
We have our own member of the royal family in the Prince of Wales, dodgy flower talker that he is.

I have some words of wisdom for you:
Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfewyr, gwladganwyr tra mad,
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed
Chorus:
Gwlad! gwlad! Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad;
Tra mor ynfur i'rbur hofbau,
O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau

Oh and we have our own language as well.

Jye

--I never understood all the fuss about being Scottish, Welsh, etc---

Yes, you 'dont' understand, why would you, you probably havent visited Scotland or Wales

TelBoy

Jones: Don't think much of yours.

Evans: Oh i don't know...

daiscooby

TelBoy

Where did you get the **** from ?.
She's a good looking beeatch right enough.

ScoobyWon't

I'm always embarrased to admit that I have Welsh blood in me. Still it's only 25%. As is the English... Which leaves me being 50% Ukranian

But I'm English if you ask me.

Having spent four years working in Spain I can tell you that I was never asked if I was British. I was always asked if I was English. The Dutch say "English", as do the Germans, Spanish, Italians, (all of the) Scandinavians and just about every other nationality that I met.

Even my Scottish (ex-)girlfriend was referred to as English by the other Europeans. She just got used to it and never hada problem with it.