Why Poland should not join EC
10 June 2003, 09:03 AM
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Pusherman - keep cool - we were just reaching an agreement - a Paneuropean Union of Beer Drinkers
We both know they know nothing about Poland. And yet your british criticism hurts me. Especiallty the 'we don't want you - get out' part.
Yeah - the site is sort of...'different'
Fortunatelly - I LOVE SUBARU!
We both know they know nothing about Poland. And yet your british criticism hurts me. Especiallty the 'we don't want you - get out' part.
Yeah - the site is sort of...'different'
Fortunatelly - I LOVE SUBARU!
10 June 2003, 09:07 AM
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Poland is a great country
Nice and cheap.....top birds....good beer and the people are very friendly and up for a good time.
Greetings to all the Poles that have joined the board and remember folks that the UK has lots of backward sh1tholes too!(and that's just the towns never mind the rude aggressive people)
Nice and cheap.....top birds....good beer and the people are very friendly and up for a good time.
Greetings to all the Poles that have joined the board and remember folks that the UK has lots of backward sh1tholes too!(and that's just the towns never mind the rude aggressive people)
10 June 2003, 09:12 AM
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Well that was a good one. 
I am off to deepest darkest Norfolk next week so stay tuned for another incisive travel report from the Simon Cowell of the holiday guide writers. The man who makes Atilla the Hun look like Judith Charmers.
I am looking forward to going back to Poland in three months time. The Polish Mafia now have several contracts out on me, I feel like Salman Rushdie but with hair and no beard. I unfortunately will be going back to Grojec, where I will no doubt be sacrificed by the locals so they will get better milk yield from there goats. I will try to expolore more of the country and find this utopian land that obviously escaped me in my wanderings last week.
I noted with interest the point about the excellent public transport system in Warsaw. They have obviously replaced since last Friday the 1950's trams packed full of people like sardines, I am sorry I missed the transition.
To clarify my use of the term backward; I meant there appears to be slow progression of the modernisation of the country. I am not disputing that the country is beautiful, but the amount of delapidation in urban areas beats anywhere else in Eastern Europe I have been. I must have hit the garden spots of the other countries and missed them in Poland. It reminded me of a host of industrial cities in Britain in the 70's before they redeveloped them.
I also was alarmed that the people I spoke to expressed the belief that membership of the EU would be the answer to all there woes and economic problems. The EU is not the Messiah, it is an economic and trade system that should benefits all its member countires. Now we know thats crap, the rural countries lean heavily on the industrial ones - fact. Sorry Poland but I told it like I saw it, and some of the impressions I got were given to me by ordinary Polish people in bars and at their workplace.
For how many people in Poland who saw this and wrote in defence of their country were the Polish people who sat there and thought, ok.
I am off to deepest darkest Norfolk next week so stay tuned for another incisive travel report from the Simon Cowell of the holiday guide writers. The man who makes Atilla the Hun look like Judith Charmers.
I am looking forward to going back to Poland in three months time. The Polish Mafia now have several contracts out on me, I feel like Salman Rushdie but with hair and no beard. I unfortunately will be going back to Grojec, where I will no doubt be sacrificed by the locals so they will get better milk yield from there goats. I will try to expolore more of the country and find this utopian land that obviously escaped me in my wanderings last week.
I noted with interest the point about the excellent public transport system in Warsaw. They have obviously replaced since last Friday the 1950's trams packed full of people like sardines, I am sorry I missed the transition.
To clarify my use of the term backward; I meant there appears to be slow progression of the modernisation of the country. I am not disputing that the country is beautiful, but the amount of delapidation in urban areas beats anywhere else in Eastern Europe I have been. I must have hit the garden spots of the other countries and missed them in Poland. It reminded me of a host of industrial cities in Britain in the 70's before they redeveloped them.
I also was alarmed that the people I spoke to expressed the belief that membership of the EU would be the answer to all there woes and economic problems. The EU is not the Messiah, it is an economic and trade system that should benefits all its member countires. Now we know thats crap, the rural countries lean heavily on the industrial ones - fact. Sorry Poland but I told it like I saw it, and some of the impressions I got were given to me by ordinary Polish people in bars and at their workplace.
For how many people in Poland who saw this and wrote in defence of their country were the Polish people who sat there and thought, ok.
10 June 2003, 02:12 PM
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Well, i'm 17, and I'm from Poland.
You said, Poland is very underdeveloped country in Europe. I don't think so.
Last year I was in Germany (in Nordrhein-Westfalen), and I can say, that my house is more modern than a house of family, where I lived at.
I travelled round the Europe (Germany, England, France, Hungary, Czech Republik), and I didn't notice any big differences between Poland and west-european countries, I mean in infrastructure.
Sometimes in radio you can hear old songs, but it's because some people (rather older people) like it. But in our radio you can also hear the latest hits.
I don't think Grójec is the most representative city of Poland
PS. Sorry for any mistakes, I'm still learning English.
You said, Poland is very underdeveloped country in Europe. I don't think so.
Last year I was in Germany (in Nordrhein-Westfalen), and I can say, that my house is more modern than a house of family, where I lived at.
I travelled round the Europe (Germany, England, France, Hungary, Czech Republik), and I didn't notice any big differences between Poland and west-european countries, I mean in infrastructure.
Sometimes in radio you can hear old songs, but it's because some people (rather older people) like it. But in our radio you can also hear the latest hits.
I don't think Grójec is the most representative city of Poland
PS. Sorry for any mistakes, I'm still learning English.
10 June 2003, 02:16 PM
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Thank you for the reply. I went to Warsaw and Janki to, Grojec was the worst though. Your english is better than mine
I will try to see some of the better areas if you let me know where they are.
Thank you for the reply. I went to Warsaw and Janki to, Grojec was the worst though. Your english is better than mine
I will try to see some of the better areas if you let me know where they are.
10 June 2003, 02:31 PM
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I am from the Gaer mate, St Josephs boy. My girlfriend is from Ringland Circle.
I used to play football for the Liswerry Hotel in Alway.
Duffyrn's gone posh mate, seen a cat with a tail on the weekend, could have been from Sierra Pines though and got lost
I am from the Gaer mate, St Josephs boy. My girlfriend is from Ringland Circle.
I used to play football for the Liswerry Hotel in Alway.
Duffyrn's gone posh mate, seen a cat with a tail on the weekend, could have been from Sierra Pines though and got lost
10 June 2003, 02:42 PM
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How old is she ?.
And the people from North Wales dont roam free, they find it hard to get out of the caves without the devils magic hot light giver. We call it fire, but they haven't grasped the concept yet.
And the people from North Wales dont roam free, they find it hard to get out of the caves without the devils magic hot light giver. We call it fire, but they haven't grasped the concept yet.
10 June 2003, 03:21 PM
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Hmm...sounds like there are a lot of "kutas" posting here...
I'm not polish, but I worked in a summer camp with many nice people from former Eastern bloc countries. I must say, that out of them all, the Poles were by far the most humourous. If you think Poles were sour-faced, well- you haven't seen the Latvians/Estonians/Russians.... But I'm also generalising here too...
What daiscooby experienced is just a different culture- something very little people experience in this country... and many others for that matter. I'd love to go visit Poland, if only for the reason that it might be "backward". I want to go there before McDonalds/Starbucks and other corporate industrial ****** take over the place and turn it into some slick money-making neon-glowing eyesore where people are laid off at the drop of a hat. I want to go there and NOT stay in luxury 5 star hotels like you do in every other overcrowded, polluted western European city- I want to see countries like Poland for what they are, and not clones of every other globalised state in the world where you can happily buy records from HMV and Virgin Megastore and eat at Burger King just because you don't like the food there, or ride around in comfortable modern taxis because you have the money to. F*ck that- I just fancy a change.
I'm not polish, but I worked in a summer camp with many nice people from former Eastern bloc countries. I must say, that out of them all, the Poles were by far the most humourous. If you think Poles were sour-faced, well- you haven't seen the Latvians/Estonians/Russians.... But I'm also generalising here too...
What daiscooby experienced is just a different culture- something very little people experience in this country... and many others for that matter. I'd love to go visit Poland, if only for the reason that it might be "backward". I want to go there before McDonalds/Starbucks and other corporate industrial ****** take over the place and turn it into some slick money-making neon-glowing eyesore where people are laid off at the drop of a hat. I want to go there and NOT stay in luxury 5 star hotels like you do in every other overcrowded, polluted western European city- I want to see countries like Poland for what they are, and not clones of every other globalised state in the world where you can happily buy records from HMV and Virgin Megastore and eat at Burger King just because you don't like the food there, or ride around in comfortable modern taxis because you have the money to. F*ck that- I just fancy a change.
10 June 2003, 03:39 PM
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I have been to most of those places as well. And the people were not miserable, a lot more outward going than some of the Poles I met. I had a fantastic time in Estonia and in Hungary, Romania etc.
They extended a hand of friendship when offered the same.
In my book if you smile and are curteous to people it is fair to expect the same in return. Didn't see much of that outside of the companies I visited, and who wouldn't smile at a guy with around £3 million to spend on bits of metal.
Most people are missing the point of my comments. They individual Polish people I have nothing negative to say apart from the lack of smiling and the driving which is trivial.
It is the run down nature of the country as a whole, and the attitude that joining the EU solve all there economic woes and problems. I have no doubt the scenary is breath taking and the people great fun. But I was told by many Polish people, all Poland has to do is join the EU and we will get our standard of living raised.
Its like expecting to go to a party and take Tesco's Value Lager and drink all the Stella when your there.
I have been to most of those places as well. And the people were not miserable, a lot more outward going than some of the Poles I met. I had a fantastic time in Estonia and in Hungary, Romania etc.
They extended a hand of friendship when offered the same.
In my book if you smile and are curteous to people it is fair to expect the same in return. Didn't see much of that outside of the companies I visited, and who wouldn't smile at a guy with around £3 million to spend on bits of metal.
Most people are missing the point of my comments. They individual Polish people I have nothing negative to say apart from the lack of smiling and the driving which is trivial.
It is the run down nature of the country as a whole, and the attitude that joining the EU solve all there economic woes and problems. I have no doubt the scenary is breath taking and the people great fun. But I was told by many Polish people, all Poland has to do is join the EU and we will get our standard of living raised.
Its like expecting to go to a party and take Tesco's Value Lager and drink all the Stella when your there.
10 June 2003, 03:43 PM
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As in Rugby playing bouncer John Morgan
OR
Charlie, Derek and Margrets bother from Ringland John Morgan.
Either way I know both.
You might know my Mrs Dawn Marshall from Ringland Circle
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Charlie, Derek and Margrets bother from Ringland John Morgan.
Either way I know both.
You might know my Mrs Dawn Marshall from Ringland Circle
10 June 2003, 03:54 PM
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Oh yes I know John, he and I have had a few *ahem* dust ups with him in town over the years. Right pr1ck and he has a habit of jumping people smaller than him from behind. Pity he didn't think first and save himself from two kickings.
Dave Stone does ring a bell does he play football for Albion Rovers ?. Possible he now plays for the Three Horseshoes this season. Got a brother Robert my age, please be aware I am 41 mind.
Oh yes I know John, he and I have had a few *ahem* dust ups with him in town over the years. Right pr1ck and he has a habit of jumping people smaller than him from behind. Pity he didn't think first and save himself from two kickings.
Dave Stone does ring a bell does he play football for Albion Rovers ?. Possible he now plays for the Three Horseshoes this season. Got a brother Robert my age, please be aware I am 41 mind.
10 June 2003, 04:01 PM
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Makes you younger than Dave then
He used to drink over the Friendship (now that is the most inapropriate name for a pub ever) but now he's banned.
He doesn't play football I doubt he'd be able to see the thing.
He used to drink over the Friendship (now that is the most inapropriate name for a pub ever
) but now he's banned.He doesn't play football I doubt he'd be able to see the thing.
10 June 2003, 04:09 PM
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Nah dont know him. I used to play footie out of the Friendship for Barratt Builders in the Prmier X. With such Ringland stars as:
Alan Spellman
Jason Knorz
Michael ( Cully ) Jones
Steven ( Chinky ) Shwart
Timmy Downes
Peter Bentham
Robbie Bentham
Andy, Kevin and Mark Simpson
Jason ( Jakey ) Ralph
Any names stand out ?.
Alan Spellman
Jason Knorz
Michael ( Cully ) Jones
Steven ( Chinky ) Shwart
Timmy Downes
Peter Bentham
Robbie Bentham
Andy, Kevin and Mark Simpson
Jason ( Jakey ) Ralph
Any names stand out ?.
10 June 2003, 04:28 PM
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about this McDonald's Conquest Spaghetti - looking out the window I can see TWO MacDonald "restaurants" and if I went to visit my neighbours upstairs I would see THREE...
"MacDonaldization" is a big problem for us nowadays.
But of course it didn't reach the more remote parts of the RP
No Starbucks though. And they closed the last BurgerKing down four years ago - unfortunatelly my counrtymen didn't like it - well I did so now I am left with no choice.
Anyway - thanks for your support
Don't you think that stereotypes killing us here? Daiscooby - we don't even HAVE donkeys or goats here. his is not Hungary - no salami - no donkeys
I don't think british girls smile that much. And I could add that Milton Kaynes is the ugliest place I have ever bee to
But as I hear you are to visit my beloved country again - lucky you.
I can prepare a list of places to visit, sights to see, beers to drink. If anyone else is planning to come to Poland I'll be happy to guide you through some of the local knowhow and things like that.
"MacDonaldization" is a big problem for us nowadays.
But of course it didn't reach the more remote parts of the RP
No Starbucks though. And they closed the last BurgerKing down four years ago - unfortunatelly my counrtymen didn't like it - well I did so now I am left with no choice.
Anyway - thanks for your support
Don't you think that stereotypes killing us here? Daiscooby - we don't even HAVE donkeys or goats here. his is not Hungary - no salami - no donkeys
I don't think british girls smile that much. And I could add that Milton Kaynes is the ugliest place I have ever bee to
But as I hear you are to visit my beloved country again - lucky you.
I can prepare a list of places to visit, sights to see, beers to drink. If anyone else is planning to come to Poland I'll be happy to guide you through some of the local knowhow and things like that.
10 June 2003, 04:36 PM
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Feckin hell
I was playing count the goat in Grojec.
Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
I think this person is Polish not person maybe.
Hungary knocks spot off Poland, and Milton Keynes is an absolute tip. Makes Poland look like Estonia without the smell of drains and goat sick. And bollox cos I saw a donkey in a field.
Poland country maybe never been you, seen on postcard and tv.
Does Yoda Poland come from maybe. Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm strong with the donkey cooking is this one, much darkness I see during 6 hour power cut on Friday morning.
I was playing count the goat in Grojec.
Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
I think this person is Polish not person maybe.
Hungary knocks spot off Poland, and Milton Keynes is an absolute tip. Makes Poland look like Estonia without the smell of drains and goat sick. And bollox cos I saw a donkey in a field.
Poland country maybe never been you, seen on postcard and tv.
Does Yoda Poland come from maybe. Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm strong with the donkey cooking is this one, much darkness I see during 6 hour power cut on Friday morning.
