Silver Knight

Smelly,
The Evo's not in the garage every 6,000 miles,

It's every 4,500 miles!!!!

Boyakasha

iTrader: (2)

Used to own an EVO VI, now own an STi8.

As you say it's horses for courses, just respect each other as they are both giant killing cars.

Those people that actually have owned an EVO don't give a **** about the servicing as do STi owners. Lets face it you don't spend £30k on a car then moan about a couple of hundred quid for a service even if it is every 6 months/4.5k miles.

Remember FQ is £29k, STi8 PPP is £27k. So if you are that bothered about how fast your car is spend your spare £2k making the STi faster and handle better (Prodrive Springs when they arrive, anit-lift kit, anti-roll bar and geom set-up £700 all in).

Ted Ed

Would be very interesting to see a JDM scoob against the FQ300 Evo cos basically the Evo is JDM anyway.

The UK Scoob and JDM scoob are completly different.... twin scroll turbo..DCCD...etc and you can have one for the same money as a PPP UK scoob and cheaper then the Evo.

Simon

SPelham

I never intended this thread to be turned into a Scoob Vs Evo thread the fact is these two cars are so similar in performance, price, handling that the only real way to differ is personal preference on looks or what you are used to (i.e. a Scooby owner is obviously going to prefer the STI !).
If you think about it 1.2 seconds is all that differs these cars around a track, on normal road conditions I doubt you would ever notice this small amount of time. IMHO of course!

Simon

MonzaEvo

Simon...

What other cars were there? I hear there was a grale... true? Did any others go round the cicuit?

Cheers

SPelham

No they did'nt have a grale, the other cars to appear on the show were the Peugeot 206 GTI 180 , the new VX220 TURBO (0-60 in 4 secs!!) and a few other track cars !

[Edited by SPelham - 6/13/2003 9:17:07 AM]

UHF

What lap times did the other cars get that you just mentioned?

Anyone have a link to the overall lap time list, would be interesting to see where these two fit into the overall picture.

Also was it wet

Harry_Boy

New VX 220 Turbo.... Was Dave T-S driving???

SPelham

UHF,
Sorry mate can't remember the other times, I do remember that the VX220 turbo was slower than the Subaru though

JPR

Perhaps true, is it the same if the AYC is turned off. Wonder how the Scoob would compare with the same 'driver aids'?

What model Evo vs Scoob are you comparing? The thread is about the Sti 8 PPP vs the Evo VIII FQ300 ain't it and from the countless reviews I've seen, the Sti brakes are superior.
Cr@p. Are you saying that an Evo will turn somebodys more than a P1, 22b or even a nicely done up RA? Its personal taste at the end of the day.
a) Sounds like - I can't help but notice, but I'm decidely richer than you. Theres probably loadsa a folks on here who could afford one but have chose the Scoob through personal preference.
b) Whatever
c) Whatever
Street cred? Sounds like its all about image for you.

Apologies for biting on this one folks and turning it ever more into a Evo vs Scooby thread. It just gets on my nerves when all these 'Scooby Newbie' Evo owners/ex scoob owners crawl out of the woodwork to add their 2p worth on a thread that wasn't meant to be a ? vs ? one. I know the guy is entitled to his opinions (I admit he is probably has more right to comment having owned both) and wants to wind people up, its just a bore ain't it?

Edward Vincent Osgood

I knew it would kick off, it does everytime. Shame you can't use the fuel tank argument anymore. I'm not sure, but I think the Evo VIII may have one less cupholder than the Scooby, so don't worry, you can always use that totally stupid argument.

No, I'd say it's more like if you turned your head everytime you saw a Subaru, you'd have a bloody sore neck!

Wonder how a Ferrari would do without an engine?

I do love these threads, what a wind up eh? At least it has given me the chance to work out how to use the quote function. Thanks ab.

Ed.

Now, where is my fishing rod?





[Edited by Edward Vincent Osgood - 6/13/2003 12:10:48 PM]

Edward Vincent Osgood

Just want to add that I do like Subarus, just find it amazingly funny how some people get so uptight about things like this.

Ed.

GaryK

Damn gonna be in spain so will miss it on Sunday, so was it a PPP'd STI against the FQ or standard, hardly a fair comparison if the scoob is standard UK spec.

Everytime they go head to head the Evo comes out on top, I acknowledge that and I reckon most scoob drivers do, I just dont want one. Its pathetic, Hey why dont we all get our dicks out and measure em FFS!

Gary

JPR

Granted you see more Scoobs than Evo's. But you make it sound like its as common as Ford Focus or a Vauxhall Cavalier, thats just not the case so your comment is silly. In the last week I've only seen one other Scoob than mine and I've seen an Evo. Besides you said Suburu, so I'd have a bloody sore neck if I was to look every time I saw a Mitsubishi.

JPR

Ed,

I'm not getting up tight as such, I'm actually disappointed that took the bate in a way. As I also said, its just a bore when a guy starts a decent thread telling everybody about whats going to be on Top Gear this week and some Evo owner adds some stupid comments thats been heard a million times before.


[Edited by JPR - 6/13/2003 12:30:25 PM]

JPR

How witty. At least my remark about the AYC has validity and topic for debate.

Edward Vincent Osgood

I posted this very near the start of the thread. It is always the same on here.

Ed.

Spanpody.

posted by smelly****

Didn't they make yellow STi's? your feking sad if all you can moan about is the colour...*****!

JPR

Well its the first time I've ever added to a Evo vs Scoob debate, so why not get stuck in! Besides I've havn't even sat in a Evo before, nevermind driven one, so what does that tell you? I've even noticed how I've contradicted myself, got sucked right in didn't I. I'll learn.

[Edited by JPR - 6/13/2003 12:57:24 PM]

Spanpody.

Note:

I'm an ex scooby owner and have respect for both sides, give and receive waves from both Evos/Scoobies

Now lets get back to the original topic

Jza

Has anyone tried a "standard" £29k Evo 8 vs a "fettled" STI PPP - with suspension mods (costing the £29k)?

My understanding has always been that the evo is built purely for the track/fast road brigade and is therefore less compliant as thats the market its aimed for ... the STI caters for the Jag bloke who wants a few thrills - as well as the rest - so its less manic in standard form.

How many evos sell vs Subarus - i bet theres more scoobies ; Suabru want everyone and his dog to buy a scoobie so makes it less manic - therefore i dont think its a totally fair competition

Still - id buy the Evo any day of the week

Jza

Jza

johnfelstead

now if only the STi had the DCCD-A transmition system, the EVO wouldnt keep kicking its ****. When will Subaru UK wake up?

Ciaran

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what time is it on sunday?
is it at 8 as usual?

Neil Smalley

What we're all looking forward to is the US spec STI over here or even the Prodrive ATD add on. From what i've seen and read the ATD system makes DCCD and active yaw look like leaf springs.

[Edited by Neil Smalley - 6/13/2003 2:47:19 PM]

juan

Looks to me like the first couple of baits were hung out by a scoob owner and an ex rather powerful scoob owner, rather than 'some Evo owner'.

[Edited by juan - 6/13/2003 2:49:43 PM]

JPR

Your right. I've been on the bit touchy side today. Must be the girlfriend's PMT rubbing off onto me!

juan

heh - sounds like a good excuse.
Its easy to get pulled in!

chrisp

tonight bbc2 8pm

Silver Knight

From what I saw it has to be the Evo!!!
The Stig couldn't even keep the subaru on the track.
What would be the time difference if he had to keep between the lines.
No point having a quick car if it doesn't go where you point it.

Boyakasha

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I agree with what they say, my STi8 suffers from understeer, so roll on the Prodrive springs. All it needs is a bit of suspension tweaking and it will handle as good as the EVO.