GTI

Yes he was tryin it on because it was a new car, but he came clean after a few pints..... Plus it was early in the mornin after a heavy night drinking so it could have been a yugo with VW badge and I'd believed him!

Cupramax

Rubbish, mines an absolute handfull in the wet if you really give it some, traction control or not you cant open it up fully. How about wheelspin at 80 in a straight line The Leon does however handle 280hp very well in the dry with little or no torque steer and surprising performance.

chrisp

Mine has 280+bhp remind me again what this wheelspin stuff as my car hasnt got any wet or dry . Maybe needs 400bhp and I might get a bit for free .

Cupramax

LOl, Yours may not have any wheelspin,... but mine also doesn't suffer from people trying to carjack it or break into my house in the middle of the night for the keys to nick it. Well worth a bit of wheelspin as far a I'm concerned...

iguana

Cupramax it all depends on what peramneters the re-mapped ECU is set to. The 1st Cupra R I drove had the same re-mapped ECU characteristics as the 210bhp S3 (4wd for those that dont know)ie where the cupra R engine comes from and it was a bloody handfull wet or dry in the R's FWD chassis.

The others I've subseqently driven have had the torque curve held back by approx 30 Lbft over a modded S3, but peak BHP was approx the same (265-270bhpish) and was a whole lot better.

golfliam

I've recently had Jabba's big turbo kit put on my car
I believe its the first Golf 4 with the full production kit on it

Who did the 280 bhp conversion for him - there aren't many companies around with big turbo kits available... is it silver and was it around Goodwood recently - because a guy on the TT forum was surprised by how fast one was recently

Mine is running 321 bhp and will be 360 bhp sortly when its finished. Traction is actually better than with my old K04
the power doesn't start kicking in until about 2900rpm and the max torque is around 290lbs. the big bhp figs come because the IHI turbo frees up the top end, so the new rev limit will be 7500 rpm - compared to standard its still producing alot of torque over 5500rpm upto the 7500 limit

The Ibiza's running around at the moment have 345 bhp (smaller port head on the new 1.8T) recorded 0 - 100 in 10.55 seconds and 160 recently on RACELOGIC VBOX timing equipment -

I believe the car that was booked in after me was a Skoda octavia 4X4 estate for the 345 bhp kit - ultimate stealth machine :-)

Kits range from £2500 - 3500 fitted for those interested

Cupramax

Who's mappings are you talking about? Mine was the first Revotechnik mapped car and it was actually closer to the Audi TT code than the S3 with an output of 252hp and 269lb/ft. It has since been revisited and now runs an Optimax program pushing 268hp & 279lb/ft. The best it has acheived was 282hp and 289lb/ft but we had problems keeping on the rollers @ Stealth Racing.

GTI

Nopes its a black beauty! Noticable only by the the number plate GT1 ??
Posing git!!!!

He's thinking of trading in and going for the R32 and spending alot more pennies! Although he may wait for the 2005 model!

fatherpierre

GTI,

I smell something here.

Howmuch did your friend pay for this 'street sleeper'?

GTI

He won't tell me
Yes it is quite a nice day out luvley fresh air must be what u can smell.
He didn't get the R32 originally if thats what ur thinkin because hes not overly mad on the styling for some reason.

GTI

What sorta ball park figure are we thinking for those sorta mods by the way?

UkLegacyT

a friend was gonna buy a 150 turbo golf, we went to the dealer, got a test drive, it was poo, dog slow, they are too heavy for that minimal power

golfliam

virtually everybody chips them - i got mine chipped 4 days after i bought it and extra 50 lbs of torque and 40 - 50 bhp - makes a big difference - its only running .7 bar of boost standard
and the turbo is dinky

mr flibble

a 150 bhp turbo quick? don't make me laugh!! We have all flavours of Golf as company cars at work, from 1.6 through to 4motion/R32.

absolute pish all of them...

M.

golfliam

The above comment is exactly why i love driving a golf with over 300 bhp.....the only tell tale sign its not standard are the big red calipers with Porsche written on them

GTI

Exactly Golfliam thats why they are so much fun plus there sexy cars!

RS Grant

Fire up a few pics Liam!!

Sounds pretty sweet!!

Cheers,
Grant

mr flibble

you may have over 300bhp but its still a golf.

then again each to their own

golfliam

And what piece of fantastic exotica do u drive if you don't mind me asking - ferrari, porsche turbo......


couple of pics - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/williamhawkins/
Gets very little attention, apart from the odd person doing a double take on the brakes

Now has JabbaSport IHI turbo conversion instead of the K04....



[Edited by golfliam - 7/22/2003 11:51:02 AM]

droid42

A standard Cavalier Turbo will pull away from a 330i beyond 80mph

No chance. With a Superchip, yes, but standard, no.

(Just to clarify, I owned a Cav Turbo for 2 years a while back. Started standard and took it to around 270bhp before selling it).

Ian.

Listy

Last month I opted out of the Company Car set up.... hence the scoob purchase

I gave back a 02 Gti Anniversary Edition. It's the limited eition Golf they sneeked out last year. Very few around and not really advertised to much.

It ran the 180Bhp Engine inline with the 180 TT. Loads of goodies as standard noteably 18" BBS alloys which looked the nuts..

Having owned a 150 brake 1.8T previous the two were like chalk and cheese. The 180 being a far superior motor in all areas. The 6 speed box was lovely.

I took on a Scoob in Harlow one day and in fareness in a straight line got my **** roasted... But bottom line the golf was a great car. Quick enough to upset most other golf owners but a pleasure to drive up and down the motorway too. I covered 22,000 miles in 6 months and enjoyed all of them.

Golf's are great cars. And the anniversary for me is the one to have.

golfliam

ALL Gti's are 180 bhp now

The engine in the 150 bhp gti's post mid 2001 is the same DRIVE BY WIRE small port head as in the anni - chipped they give from 200 - 215 bhp with around 240 lbs torque

U don't need to get an anniversary

GTI

Nope there not Liam, as www.vw.co.uk will tell you!

golfliam

mmm thats interesting - they charge a £1000 more for the 180 bhp version. i thought they had dropped the 150 bhp version. when their both chipped they will produce the same power - doesn't seem to be any difference in the other spec - i would get the 150 and take it to Jabba or AMD for a £500 remap

Cupramax

Wrong again 150hp has a K03 turbo and the 180hp has a K03 sport.... your not doing your homework are you Results chipped would be 195ish-hp for the 150 and 220+hp for the 180. These are based on rolling road results seen on Jabbasport chipped cars.

golfliam

Pre early 2001 produce 195 bhp when chipped - with the different head and plain K03 & around 200 lbs of torque

while LATE 2001 cars produce around 240 lbs of torque and from 205 /235 bhp - similar to my old K04
Which is the same as any 180 bhp i've heard about
who told you the 150 bhp still used the old k03....

golfliam

Ok take it back -

Happened to be on the phone to jabba finding when they can finish my car off - soon to be 360 bhp :-):-)

the 180 does have k03s but when chipped the difference is only 5 - 10 bhp - as per Jabba, not me :-)

Cupramax

They've actually got over 240hp out of a 180 Leon. No other mods, same engine.

CavT

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A standard Cavalier Turbo will pull away from a 330i beyond 80mph

No chance. With a Superchip, yes, but standard, no.

(Just to clarify, I owned a Cav Turbo for 2 years a while back. Started standard and took it to around 270bhp before selling it).

Ian.

Unquote:

Sorry to argue here, but I wrote that message because of facts!

I have a friend who has said BMW 330Ci, and three times in a row beyond 80, the Cav Turbo was pulling away from his car EVERY time.

I don't need to justify this, it was done, he was surprised, the Cav was standard, thats it and all about it! The gearing of the Getrag 6speed gives the Cav the edge. Obviously your Cav wasn't running right, else you wouldn't have posted the comment.... I assume!

droid42

have a friend who has said BMW 330Ci, and three times in a row beyond 80, the Cav Turbo was pulling away from his car EVERY time.

And, of course, you're both experienced road testers who can achieve consistent results all the time are you? Which publication do you work for?

Gearing makes fack-all difference to through-the-gears acceleration test so that's unlikely to be the reason.

Ian.