I don't think Keith Cowie's Skyline is a big budget job, he told me how much he paid for it and there are more expensive scoobs on this board for sure !!
You just need to know where to shop and don't be a sheep and follow the flock

Andy

 

Well all I can say as a spectator, I had a fantastic day out, was great to see David's car

and at one point I was amazed at the sheer number of people stood round it, it looked to me as if it had more people interested/concerned etc than any other car that attended

I didnt go to see the Skylines, or Evo's or incedibly noisy Vipers, but they were fun to watch.

I went for the small number of scoobs that entered, and I for one, was happy to see them running, no matter what the times achieved were

It was a big build up, and I know a few people went home disapointed, but I had a fantastic day, and like most people got incredibly sunburnt in the process

I know that David & friends had spent a lot of time and energy on his car, and the main thing we spoke about was that yes Norris spends a fortune on his car, and blows it up a lot, the Skylines have had fortunes spent on it, all massive budgets, all trailered there

David's car in particular, just shows what can be achieved in a small normal household garage, and a lot of enthuisiasm & dedication, and nowhere near the size of budget as the other cars

and that was a much bigger buzz seeing it in the flesh and attempting a run, even with the problems that were encountered

And also seeing John Felsteads car (in almost std format) on the handling circuit, and then seeing John drive P20's car

looking at the scoobs on the handling circuit I was impressed

All in all a great day, and I would go back again

Steve

 

Well my thoughts on the day are very mixed, first off seeing David W's car running was a great credit to his perseverance and to those involved. To get it onto the strip and run it was a huge effort and not without its risks.

I have to admit to having very mixed feelings about it all, I initially went because I had agreed to go, I nearly pulled out but John F persuaded me otherwise, and I'm very glad he did. I had never done this before at all and on that basis had no idea what to expect of either myself or the car, with hindsight I could have done with a few pointers in advance, running with the car in full road trim with 3/4 tank of fuel was not the best way to get a time, however in the end it made no real difference as I struggled to get even a half decent launch,I think I got under 2.0 secs for the 60ft on one occasion only out of the fifteen runs I did. The reassuring thing was that even with the totally disgraceful takes off's I was making I could regularly get to 120mph terminal speed. Towards the end of the day Nito spotted my problem and came over to offer a few words of advice and encouragement (cheers for that, it was badly needed) and armed with a plan to get a good launch at last and about 20 mins left to try I headed back to the gate, however it was all not to be as they had a blow up just at that point and then decided to run the jet car, so no chance to try and no high speed run either, that was being saved to last as well.

Car behaved impeccably apart from its grabbing centre viscous diff. and despite charge temps of between 32 and 41 deg c on the start line exhibited no signs of distress at all, and I was still using my normal Optimax/booster coctail and running timing and boost as on the road. I was offered some race fuel for the day but declined. After the first four runs I even stopped looking at the knocklink display.

So things you should and things you shouldn't do based on my experience.

DO make sure you have minumum fuel load
DO make sure that you take out the rear seats and spare wheel etc
Do make sure that you practice lots and lots before you get there
DO stop worrying about transmission and clutch as that only makes launches too tentative. (it was only 220 miles home !!)
DO the high speed run early in the day as that gets you an early feel good factor
DO adjust tyre pressures to help the launch (I had loads of (read too much) grip from the F1's)

Despite my lack of experience and personal disappointment at the times I managed I still had a great day and meeting up with all those people who I rarely get to see these days was great, Alan G, John B, Andy F etc. Big thanks to Carlos and great meeting up with Jerry in advance of next weekend.

Would I do it again, unfortunately the answer is a big YES ... this has now become a personal challenge and I will not be beaten by it. So as soon as the diff is sorted "I'll be back".

Highlight of the day ... Sky Sports interview with "Miss Leopardskin" ... David T knows what I mean !!

Oh and I can confirm that Harveys car was ready for him as of 22:00 on Saturday evening, unfortunately he didn't make it down to collect it. Had it arrived and run that would have been another very creditable effort on the part of those involved to get it there.

cheers and thanks to all

bob

 

Bob,

it's Claire by the way...

...and she drives and Evo VI ...

...would you like her phone number

Sorry you didn't get a good time - we were holding out for you.

I also made the mistake of filling the car for mapping at 1am - and then did not manage to use anywhere near as much fuel as I hoped - went home on Sunday with 2/3rds of a tank still.

IMHO dropping the clutch hard and getting a little wheelspin is aggressive but is less likely to cause clutch slip - never smelt the clutch at all on Sunday. I agree anything more tentative and it just overheats and ruins later starts.

Good to see you,

Rannoch

 

Bob, nice to meet you again

So do i take it your putting your name down for the Scooby Shoot out then?

Go on, you know you want to

See National section

Steven

 

Steven, if I can get the diff fixed then probably (read YES), will get back to you.

 

Nice one Bob

 

hmmm
my advice for launching, although it would differ slightly for your car

aproach line slowley, get there b4 the other car to give u enough time to get ready, 2 many times i have rolled up later and as soon as the car was in the right spot the lights are on green

when the car is in position leave car in 1st gear, hand brake off
when other car is pulling upto the line get the revs ready, i normaly sue between 5000 and 6000 rpm depending on surface, save the 6500 rpm starts for sumthing that looks like it will beat you lol

do nothing else except watch them lights, dont watc the other car, dont wave to mates by the side, dont eat a cheeky cheese sandwhich, as soon as they go green whip the clutch up, i persoanly dont like the sound of this sidestepping malarky, just bring it up fast and plant your right foot, rember to get 2cnd gear b4 it bounces of the limiter as the beguining really flys by.

next time im going to elvington i am going to try and raise the tyre preasures as i was getting to much grip as well imo, my best was 13.2 in the dry and as soon as it rained i managed a 13.4, that was with a 6.5k dump the clutch start in the pissing rain (openent looked like he was going to nail me lol) that run had me snakeing from the start line!

 

What a hectic day out Elvington was this year. I don't mean this in a bad way, just very busy, so many people and competitors it was difficult to spend time catching up with people.

I thought it was a great day out as last year, although this year I didn't run in a scooby capacity which was kind of a shame but I enjoyed it immenseley anyway. It was great to meet those I haven't met before, particularly Bob and Andy F, not as I'd imagined either of you, and catching up with all the 'usual suspects'.

There were some very respectable times posted by the Subarus, and although they maybe didn't appear as impressive as the skylines, Andy F's 174mph top speed run and 11.7 quarter is nothing to sniff at and put him in the top ten for everything, and he scooped the Nitosport fastest Scooby prize- well earnt !!

For many of the Scoobs this was the first time at this type of event and it's not as easy as it looks, plus you are surrounded by the best cars in the country which sort of takes things out of perspective. The other thing is, plenty of people get quick times at the pod but I don't really think they are comparable to Elvington which has a much grippier surface hence much harder to launch. Also, bear in mind the extreme temps of the day, 35 degrees+ makes figures obtained elsewhere sort of irrelevant. I'm not suprised there were quite a few engine failures and I am surprised there weren't more. I saw a 1050 EGT on mine on one run and had to abort the top speed run!

The best thing about the Subarus though was the paddock, there was more comraderie here than with any of the other clubs, everyone put aside their differences and mucked in to help out (or certainly that's the way it seemed to me) making it a real team effort even though it was a team dogged with late failures and episodes it always seems to be the case with the scoobs but then Scooby tuning is really in unchartered water at the moment.

David W's car, -Fantastic- , what a lot of effort has gone into that. Steven's car looked great, as did John F's and even Trout did well although admittedly he did have his **** handed to him on a plate by that Supra and Bob had some great terminal speeds hinting at the potential for next year!! Great to see Michael's Legacy doing its stuff to.

The handling circuit was a real laugh too and very well set out, now I know why John and Puff spent so much time on that side last year!

Roll on TOTB3


Well done to everyone,
Nito

 

Nito,

I had a quick scan on the Supra site, but didn't see your results!!

Post them here, or I'll give you a call later!

Cheers
Andy

 

Andy,

171.8mph Top speed (not bad given the temps) and 13.44 quarter which was ****e but then it is an Auto and the 60ft times were a shocking 2.6secs but there was nothing I could do to launch it! Handling circuit was 46.95 secs and a shedload of fun.

Nito

 

http://www.derbyshire-rsoc.co.uk/totb/

All results

Steven

 

I had a fantastic day out, although looking like a panda where my shades had been wasn't quite so cool LOL!

I thought all the Scoobs were awsome along with all the other cars to be honest I even thought the Granada was kinda cool in a perverse kinda way LOL!

Well done to everyone who took the time and trouble and risked there transmissions, engines etc. brilliant

 

Steven,

thanks for posting the results

Don't you do anything at work

In the cold light of day - we could have been a lot worse!!

Rannoch

 

Yep, lots

 

Andy,

you will be excited to know I have just got a book called - How to build a Sports Car for £250...

...now where's that welder?

Rannoch

 

Just gotta pop in here and clarify the position with regards to the vipers at TOTB. Nadines viper, Joels viper, Tareks viper and the Bells viper were all driven to the event and driven home. Steve towed his because, well because he is Steve ! Nadine has a low boost supercharger on her car, but not because she needed to beat Michael, but just because she wanted one. ( anyway she beat him last year also ) It is actually Joels car which has the brakes, Nads are completely standard and totally below par for the power and weight of the car. Why doesnt she have bigger brakes ....because she works hard just to be able to afford the car and the few mods that budget let her do.
All credit to the vipers for being right on the times for the handling course.......nipping at the heels of the high horsepower 4wd EVO's and Skylines and amazingly to me on a level with the Dax turbo Hayabusa. Now where were all those Subarus ?

 

Well said..

I can make excuses for my scoob.. but I dont need to.. I know why it didnt perform.. it doesnt need the bonnet opening to be improved..

Yes it needs the door opening, but not a driver change

Might help though..

David

 

Credit to the Viper with what looked like 18" wide rubber on the rear Certainly whipped round the handling course quicker than my scoob.
Only one complaint, they sound nice on power but can you stop them making so much noise on the overrun.......it's so Morris 1000

Andy

PS What is it that makes the Viper such a girlies car anyway

 

What a cool username!!

LOL