Boyakasha

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Nice one girl you show them how it's done

As far as those people coming on here preaching that it is the drivers that are overtaking that should be more carefull, then how the **** are you supposed to know the **** end is going to speed up which is so dangerous [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Fact, people don't like to be overtaken in this country. When you do it you always get some tw@t either flashing you or sounding their horn.

Boyakasha

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Well said Mungo

Dapster

Don't think that it is just drivers of performance cars that get grief. I was on business in Yorkshire a few months ago and suprised a napping Vectra SRi driver in my bottom of the range Nissan Almera hire car. I was driving pretty hard and took him on the inside of an open downhill bend and had so much more momentum that I lost him pretty quickly.

A few mins later I saw him tanking after me and catching fast. I thought he was enjoying the pace and kept it up for a minute before I realised that all he wanted to do was get past. I backed off to see and sure enough in a no-way-in-the-world-could-it-be-safe manoever he blasted past. The amazing thing was that about a mile later he banged on the brakes as he approached a side road, did a U turn and steamed off the way he had come. T*at.

MorayMackenzie

Re "As far as those people coming on here preaching that it is the drivers that are overtaking that should be more carefull, then how the **** are you supposed to know the **** end is going to speed up which is so dangerous "

It was an observation.

Here is another: If you cannot plan for, observe and react to changing circumstances on the road in a safe manner then then you really shouldn't be driving on it.

I did mention that the person accelerating whilst being overtaken was being stupid and dangerous too. I didn't quote the highway code because I knew that would be taken as evidence of "preaching".

Accuse me of "coming on here" and having the audacity to "preach" to you all you like, but if you take at least a little time to think about it from a less defensive position, you may see something in what I wrote. I live in hope.

Personally, I would rather not meet an oncoming driver on my side of the road halfway around a blind corner just because that couldn't react to and change their driving plan when someone ahead of them decided to be an idiot.

Triple X

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Another thread that gone pear shaped! It happens all too often these days!!

Leslie

Mungo, I think the Beemer driver was a nutter of the first water. Glad you managed to stop in the layby, but disgraceful that you should have to do that.

Just out of interest, what was the significance of his age?

Les

Redkop

The Highway Code also says...no undertaking...yet a few of you are admitting that you have.......

Mr slayer 2 u

I have the same problem in my saph cosworth 4x4 but with nearly 400bhp theres not much chance of me not getting passed the ****! the people that really get me though are the ones in GTI`S and SRI`S with max power blasterd all over them who think they can keep up with us turbo boys and will try everything they can to get you to race them so they can go down the pub and tell there mates they beat a scooby today, had an evo last week, cossie this morning, lambo 5mins ago, i pulled bast him at 370mph in my 1.6 GTI.

chrome

moray; re your first point.. thats pretty much what happened to me on sunday out at stratford back roads..

a black 5 series (535) behind me.. doing about 60 ish on a straight (b-road).. I was coming up to a micra.. I then indicated to overtake- checked mirrors started the maneuver, the beemer pretty much raced up beside me (i checked mirrors again he was gone - he was in the blindspot)I backed off staightaway and he blocked me and was almost alongside but he wasnt looking over at me.

I was 'kin furious. after he finally put his foot down and pushed past I overtook the slower car (old dears) and I looked over at them and they were giving the bimmer the Vs!!! unreal..
to top it off the w@nker in the bimmer turned off about 300 yds down the road into a cul de sac!!!
god I wanted to stop and 'educate' the guy.. the wife was yelling and telling me to leave it..


grrrrrr would have knocked the **** out of the pompus tw@t given half a chance. :X
not often I lose my temper. but god that did it.
only thw wife's temper that scared me more! LOL
it spoiled an otherwise fantastic b road run home avoiding the motorways.

[Edited by chrome - 8/20/2003 7:06:57 PM]

Scooby Soon

I have problems just like everyone has mentioned on here but mine are slightly different. I drive an old mercedes van for work and when fully loaded takes litreally hours to get up to 70mph. Why is it every time i move out in to lane 2 to overtake a car driver in lane 1 (usually travelling at 50mph) he/she immediatly speeds up to 80mph i then have to move back in to lane 1 after being unable to overtake them. This wouldnt really be a problem but as soon as i get about a mile further down the motorway i find the same car dawdling along at 50mph, i then try to overtake, and they speed off again! :-( :-( :-(
If car drivers are going slow why cant they let vans go past?

douglasb

Scooby Soon - you need a Mercedes Sprinter. They're the fastest things on the road

And welcome to Scoobynet.

(First corner )

Doug

[Edited by douglasb - 8/20/2003 7:15:03 PM]

greasemonkey

Not this one again. The easiest way of avoiding that scenario is simply not attempting to overtake "groups" of cars in one go

Scooby Soon

Cheers douglasb

Dont worry i will soon be "Making progress" as you guys seem to call it, in a 316Cdi LWB Sprinter, cant remember the exact spec but i knows its 130bhp+ and over 110mph (obviously i wont go that fast Unless on a private road)Thats another scoobynet saying i picked up from these forums :-)

Cheers

Colonel Mullet

"Fact, people don't like to be overtaken in this country. "

Spot on there. Doesn't matter what you drive, there are plenty of people out there who believe they have a god-given right to determine the speed everyone else should do. If you dare to try and go past, well they are quite happy to try and kill you for questioning their authority. And they ALL live in Norfolk!

I had a funny moment with a 328 driver some years ago, when I had my scoob. He saw me come up behind and accelerated off to a much higher speed than the 45 or so he'd been doing before. I kept pace for a bit then backed off when we reached a roundabout as it was wet and I had S03s on.

Unfortunately he failed to appreciate the finer points of rear-wheel drive control and managed to bin it off the roundabout and into a crash barrier.

I came across the same car a few months later (private plate) doing a steady 45 again, but this time he let me go straight past. A lesson learned, perhaps...

greasemonkey

MGJohn

You don't have to a Turbocharged Nipponese Rocket to experience this sort of thing. You merely have to drive an old Montego Efi or Turbo, which despite what some other drivers have read about them, are quite nippy and often more than a match for highly over-rated stuff costing much much, more.

Scenario 1: Out of Gloucester westbound on A40 towards Ross. Pass Old but tidy Black Impreza driving smoothly and steadily in nearside lane. Probably did not take too kindly being passed so quickly by even older Black Monty Turbo and decides to floor it as I passed. Had first run on him so he took good quarter mile to catch me up using his more powerful car and then tailgated me closely for another quarter mile on the dual carriageway until a gap appeared in the nearside lane so I could move over. By this time he was travelling at a licence losing speed and all over road despite the twisty bits which should suit his car. A perfect demonstration of "Mines faster than your'n so there". Totally unnecessary - I did happen to know that Sir!..... DOH!

Scenario 2: Rain soaked greasy inner North London main road sets of Traffic lights. Even fully loaded with passengers and luggage, the old EFi moves away from lights on greasy road and gains several lengths on some 7 series which scrabbles a little for adhesion. Next lights, 7 series again alongside guns it on green only moreso ... all costs, this driver must get in front of old MG EFi .... fails miserably, rear end goes sideways 45 degrees without adhesion, EFi moves off straight as a die several lengths clear then 7 series very suddenly finds adhesion now at 45 degrees across road, shoots into island which is protected by thick iron kerb reinforcements ..... Saw it all in my mirror .... OUCH, could hear those alloys cracking! Doubt even now if that kind of driver realises that handling and power are sometimes mutually exclusive.

Scenario 3. 318i (Guess what marque ... ... Alongside me in 3 lane traffic lights. Old EFi moves away smartly on green and gains a length or two - not surprising if you know the 0-60 times. Road narrows to two and then one lane and I lift off for the next red light to find red 318i at peak revs trying to overtake on the nearside. Scrapes along side of car as only room for one line of cars at lights. Know what he said? "That's what wing Mirrors are for"! Pathetic! Damage to my old Monty EFI: 12 quid. 1000 quid plus to his krautmobile as all his offside panels and trim affected ( what was that about germanic build quality - I expected better). I picked his tinny trim up out of the road and plonked it in his boot. The other guy was not some young "n'r do well" in a tatty Beemer but a smart 30 something out with his lady and baby. He just had to prove something that day. Later correspondence exchanges revealed car not insured in his name - suspect it was his lady passengers. She said nothing at the time but her looks said everything! Know what really annoyed me? I was annoyed with myself afterwards for not using all my car's acceleration at the time. Had I done so the 318 would have been left for dead. Even after 40+ years driving I'm still learning. It won't happen again.

In case you think this sort of thing only happens to you and me, forget it. My daily to-from work runs show many other examples of this sort of thing involving other road users. Thing that worries me ... it won't get better. Despite numerous speed bumps, cameras et al, they alone will not stamp out actual bad driving so frequently observed but unpunished on our crowded, stressful money chasing roads. Many drivers have several motor claims/accidents and no points ever on their licence. Others actually believe they are better drivers after a few pints!!!!

Keep 'em peeled .... there's a lot of it about.

NACRO

Quote: "Not this one again. The easiest way of avoiding that scenario is simply not attempting to overtake "groups" of cars in one go "

Read what you like into what I said, it was actually meant to be referring to overtaking one car then trying to slot into the gap between it and the car in front. I agree overtaking large line sof traffic is madness. A bit annoying that you took my comments to mean what you did though.

douglasb

A couple of weeks ago, I was almost on the receiving end of an idiot driver in my driver's door.

Country road with a few cars behind me (double white lines in the middle of the road, obstructed view ahead). I was wanting to turn right into a pub's car park so I slowed down and indicated right in plenty of time. Car behind me is probably blocking my rear indicator, but pr@t behind him (not a Subaru) thinks we are all going too slowly. He pulls out and decides to pass both of us.

If I hadn't done the "over the shoulder" blind spot check, this idiot would have been visiting me via the driver's door. It was a country road with nothing there other than the pub. I had slowed down and the car following me had also slowed down. Where did he think I was going FFS???

Just because the non-Subaru pr@t had the power to overtake two cars, why couldn't he have read the road conditions and worked out that as I had slowed down, and as the only feature of the road was was a pub to the right that's where I was likely to be going? As the driver between me and Mr. Pr@t had seen my indicators and had slowed down perhaps that should have told him something.

I know the Highway Code rules about not speeding up when being overtaken and agree that people who do have got small todgers, but I'm not convinced that everyone who has overtaken a queue of cars and has hit a vehicle turning right is entirely blameless.

Doug

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TREV

Well Chris. Just look what you have started here.
I'll be having a severe word with you on friday. lol

SCOOBY TOWERS

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Seems it happens all to often judging by the number of posts

Be carefull out there peeps.

Trev - See u on Friday

Chris

Bubba po

Followed my brother to the coast a couple of weeks ago, him in his work's astramax van, me in the scoob, both fully loaded up with family luggage and whatnot, driving at the speed limit and just cruising. I always keep a safe distance from cars in front, not only for my own safety, but because I realise that tailgating causes people to do stupid things.
At our first stop, my brother tells me that having the scoob in his rear view mirror was really disconcerting,even though I wasn't close. He said the aggressive-looking front end just put the sh*ts up him, even though he knew full well it was me driving!
Just an observation.

Mr slayer 2 u

Your right with that one, the scooby does look pritty mean in the rear view mirror the drivers in front are just running for cover before you pass them at warp 9 and the sound from your HKS breaks there windows. lol

[Edited by Mr slayer 2 u - 8/21/2003 10:09:33 AM]

vindaloo

Bubba Po,

I have to agree. I drive a Citroen AX GT and an Impreza P1.

The Citroen is almost invisible to people when it's behind them. They notice the scooby right away. Most get out of the way pretty smartly. A small minority decide to stick in the outside lane doing 'whatever' speed and sod-it. I normally pull out of the way and let super-rep or who-ever's behind me (there's always one) tailgate the b*stard.

Vindaloo.

pjmc

This happened a few weeks ago Being a friday i set off to do the 120mile round trip to work in quite a happy mood... soon to be put into a not so happy mood by some tw@ in a white van. As most ppl from ayrshire will know, the notorious A77 is being upgraded and at the Floak junction it has been reduced down to 1 lane for years and just recently the merge has been pulled further south for a works access road, it is not unusual (to quote Tom Jones) to get ppl shoving in at the merge but this morning i was sitting behind a lorry who had sat in the middle of the road to put off potential nose cutter-offers..(?)doing about 40mph, and a pick-up when this said van came right up beside me when i was after the 200m sign and started to push in..normally i just say 'ah fek it and let them in but the van behind me was up my ars3 so i couldnt drop back and this git who wasnt giving a toss cos he wouldnt have to pay to get his company van fixed was inches off my mirror...needles to say after a lot of gesturing and horn and lights my feet gave in to sense though my fists and temper wanted to trip the light fandango with his head..and i slowed to let this tosser who was on the chicanes pull in ....there was no other vehicles behind the van behind me and 2 trucks infront of me going slow so why this fud thought it necessary to get 40ft further down the road only to go slow was beyond me... only thing i can think of is ppl like this enjoy annoying the beejeesus out of other road users and this guy was a pro.

Gary C

Same thing used to happen in the EVO, I was hoping it would not be so bad in the STi.

Last year overtook a Corsa as we came out of a 30 limit to a 60 limit. I then drove quickly but safely through the traffic and slowed and stopped with a queue of traffic for a traffic island. The Corsa driver, desparate to prove how fast he could drive, then ran straight into the back of a car three cars behind me.

These cars seem to bring out the worst in some types of driver.

Cheesy Puff

Think my scooby mast have been magnetically charged at the factory as the same thing happens to me, you can tell which end is the positive and what end is negative as cars in front must get pushed away thus speeding up and the ones behind (usaually novas and such like)get attracted and close in on your bumper.
I also think that the gas pedal reverses the polarity as u can make the car behind mov away and the car infront get closer lol

Cheese.....

Gary C

Magnetically charged !, That explains it

LOL

D.J.

Not just scoobs that are magnetically charged but most rice rockets. Maybe nova/corsa peddlers use the draft from the car in front as in nascar!!!

bluto22b

Erm, why did you buy an Impreza then

bluto22b

Who says undertaking is illegal?
A friend of mine is in the business and is doing quite well thankyou very much. Its not a dying trade either....Blutes