super_si

Not really. He's certainly up there. Especially for a body builder!! Not many people can boast a 900lbs dead. And the fact he could pull more if only the bar would take more plates!

TelBoy

Is that 410kg official Si? Didn't realise he was right up there. Considering the world record is only about 15kg heavier, that's phenomenal.

super_si

Pictures on the net + if you actually watched it last night he mentioned doing. He did it 6 years ago in the states.

Hes certainly up there

si

ozzy

Cheers Telboy,

That's what I thought. My cousin was a Bodybuilder for some years. Didn't compete, but used them regularly to gain size. He's a big guy, but not massive and from the side-effects (very bad temper, violent, moody, man-breasts, spotty back) it was a big eye-opener for me.

I'm sure, like any performance enhancement, if they're used correctly it has huge benefits. I guess knowing when and how to use them is the key. Taking them just because someone says you should is a recipe for disaster.

Stefan

LG John

I've thought about this a lot and the best 'body example' I can think of is the 100m sprinters that have been on TV recently. Their upper-body is brilliant and I'd like to look something like that but I understand I'll probably not be quite so toned without serious work. My plan is to (in order):

1. Build the mass
2. Strip of the fat
3. Improve tone and improve muscle speed (fast twitch) whilst retaining mass
5. Maintain

Its a long road but I'm pretty determined to get there. Its true that a lot of it is appearance driven because when I think I look good I feel good about myself and that important. I also want to be stronger and have more powerful limbs, etc.

I have another question A few days ago I beasted my chest and my pecs are now tender to the touch. I'm due to work them again tomorrow evening but expect they will still be a little fragile. Should I work through the pain or is the pain an indicator that they are not ready for more action yet? I've been eating and getting reasonable rest and was also overjoyed to discover pasta is 11% protien

TurboKitty

Where did 4 go?

SPEN555

Si,

Check this link out below, crazy loon benching 800lbs+. He's an undergraduate so I bet he's not on the gear!! lol!!

http://www.bodyquicken.com/mendelson.asp

Damian.

POC

OMG!!!!

TelBoy

Very fair goal Kenny, but do be aware that with not much further work, many of those top sprinters could step onto a stage and win bodybuilding contests up to quite a reasonable standard, so you're aiming very high. Which isn't a bad thing, but do keep your goals realistic, ie one step at a time.

As for working through the pain, i've done both, ie held off for a day or so, and conversely gone for it, especially if i knew my partner was going on holiday or something. It's a tough call, the conventional wisdom is that you should rest more. My own opinion, is that if you're motivated enough to do it, then do it. Motivation is often one of the biggest obstacles to overcome, so i'd never stand in the way of enthusiasm. I've always erred on the side of more rather than less, and it didn't harm me. The only thing to be aware of is that you'll be less likely to be able to go through as wide a range of motion due to the soreness, so don't push it from that respect. Warm up properly too, and stretch lots afterwards. But then definitely give it extra time to recover, don't make it your usual gameplan.

Am i talking on this thread too much? Should i shut up?

LG John

Doh, 4. Use new found muscles to pummel a weed on the beach and steal his sexy gilfriend

TelBoy

LOL at thumbless benches. Absolute madness. Supposedly harder than conventional grip, therefore more of a test apparently, but bloody dangerous, whichever way you look at it!

[Edited by TelBoy - 8/26/2003 1:15:13 PM]

SPEN555

Reverse grip benches are even worse!

POC

bttt, good thread

super_si

Damian yeah ive heard about him.

Sure he didnt fail at it??

There was something on a forum recently about him


Is reverse just the Close Grip PresS?
Si

[Edited by super_si - 8/26/2003 3:40:12 PM]

LG John

Just been reading up about Captain of Crush Grippers Gonna get me some of those bad-boys Best get the training (girls) version

super_si

What for?

you dont need grip strength

Si

TurboKitty

Perhaps he's planning to win his arm wrestling bouts by crushing the opposition?

LG John

You also don't need nice curvy muscles! It would be nice to have though Grip strenght would also be useful for kuk sool which has many joint locks. Such locks use primarily technique but if you have strength too boot they work brilliantly

super_si

Cool im debating on getting one but cant be arsed to parting with cash

[Edited by super_si - 8/26/2003 4:43:13 PM]

ozzy

Kenny,

If you want to increase grip/forearm strength do plenty of pull-ups (over-hand, not the girlie ones) and do any ab work hanging from a bar. Usually your grip starts to go before your abs get fatigued.

Another great sport for grip strength is rock climbing.

Stefan

SPEN555

Si,

Reverse grip bench press is normal benching only the grip is not overhand, but an underhand grip. I found it very difficult to do and it felt quite uncomfortable.

The 'Barbarian Brothers' aka Peter Paul & David Paul used to do these a lot and would typically incline press around 550lbs!!! Probably the biggest twins on the planet and massively strong.

Damian.

[Edited by SPEN555 - 8/26/2003 5:24:46 PM]

super_si

Doesnt sound fun

I close grip alot not to keen on it.

Si

Fuzz

anybody see anything inherently wrong with the below, Lower body stretching excercises ?

"""The best exercise for me is to sit on the floor with legs spread apart, knees straight. The angle of your legs should be 90-degrees from each other (that would be your right-leg 45-degrees to your right and your left-leg 45-degrees to your left). Touch your forehead to one knee twice, then the other knee twice (or just go as low as you can). Place your hands on each side of the knee your are touching your head to. DO NOT BOUNCE! Move slowly. You should try to do 20-movements per knee (10-alternating sets of 2).
Then place both hands in front on the floor (about shoulder width apart) between you legs. Try to touch your forehead to the floor between your hands (or just go as low as you can). Do this 10-times.

Now, bend your knees and bring the bottoms of your feet together in front of you (close to your body so the heels are close to the groin) then grab your feet near the toes and bounce your knees CAREFULLY. Bring your knees as high as you can (try to touch your shoulders) the lower them until they touch the floor (or as low as they can go). Do between 5- and 10-bounces.

Holding this position try to touch your forehead to your knees (or as low as you can), do this 10-times.

Now all these movements thus far have stretched your hamstrings and lower back a lot, you need to finish with a few movements to counter the forward stretching of your lower back (otherwise you can get a bad back by doing a lot of these stretches). So, lay on the floor facing downward and place your hands next to your shoulders like you are going to do a push-up. Push-up GENTLY but leave your hips on the floor so your back is arched (I think in yoga they call this a cobra-movement). Do at least 10 of these movements (20 might be better)."""

thoughts?

Andy

LG John

A lot of it is similar to excerises in Marial Arts.

Fuzz

wouldn't know, don't do martial arts, Just swing til I make contact.

But it's a good pre-cursor to weight training ?

Andy