Why is it I can't listen too todays Music!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08 September 2003, 06:48 PM
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Very occasionally you get something good that pops up on the mainstream market.
A perfect example in my mind is the new No 1 at the mo by black eyed Peas.
Some might say that Mr Trousersnake had "everything" to do with it... yes Black eyed peas have been around a long time and I for one have never even heard of them before.... but someone has definitely hit the right cords in that latest offering !
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A perfect example in my mind is the new No 1 at the mo by black eyed Peas.
Some might say that Mr Trousersnake had "everything" to do with it... yes Black eyed peas have been around a long time and I for one have never even heard of them before.... but someone has definitely hit the right cords in that latest offering !
Andy
09 September 2003, 06:18 AM
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quote: "Erm, Tainted Love was originally done by Soft Cell (early 80s I'd say). "
No it wasn't.
No it wasn't.
09 September 2003, 06:40 AM
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"Tainted Love" written by Ed Cobb, 1st released by Gloria Jones, 1965.
I agree, the music generally played by the media is usually crud. I've always had to search hard for music I like, not just recently but since I was a teenager. I have to wonder, where does the money come from? Tennybop karaoke bimbos can get to no.1 on the back of 10000 single sales, and their albums don't shift very well. So where's the pay-off for the record companies? I remember singles selling 1m to hit no.1, and album sales figures like international telephone numbers.
My faves are blues (Clapton/Hooker/BB/Cray/Vaughan etc), female singer/songwriters (Heather Nova/Sarah McLachlan/Tori Amos), the better bits of country (Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies) and mature pop (Weller/Sting etc). If an artist is alive and worth it I'll buy their work. If they're dead (Eva Cassidy) then I'll copy/download.
Check out Bob Harris at 10pm sat nights Radio 2, I have many albums bought after hearing on his shows over many years.
[Edited by corradoboy - 9/9/2003 6:45:17 AM]
I agree, the music generally played by the media is usually crud. I've always had to search hard for music I like, not just recently but since I was a teenager. I have to wonder, where does the money come from? Tennybop karaoke bimbos can get to no.1 on the back of 10000 single sales, and their albums don't shift very well. So where's the pay-off for the record companies? I remember singles selling 1m to hit no.1, and album sales figures like international telephone numbers.
My faves are blues (Clapton/Hooker/BB/Cray/Vaughan etc), female singer/songwriters (Heather Nova/Sarah McLachlan/Tori Amos), the better bits of country (Alison Krauss/Cowboy Junkies) and mature pop (Weller/Sting etc). If an artist is alive and worth it I'll buy their work. If they're dead (Eva Cassidy) then I'll copy/download.
Check out Bob Harris at 10pm sat nights Radio 2, I have many albums bought after hearing on his shows over many years.
[Edited by corradoboy - 9/9/2003 6:45:17 AM]
09 September 2003, 06:47 AM
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lol- I prefer the Gloria Jones version and always have done- it's amazing how many people think Soft Cell wrote it.
I think they wish they did as they get hardly any money in royalties from it! (they put tainted dub on the B side- a big mistake)
I think they wish they did as they get hardly any money in royalties from it! (they put tainted dub on the B side- a big mistake)
09 September 2003, 08:23 AM
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Ah yes but the 12" version of tainted love is well cool, goes into the b-side which is another cover 'where did our love go', IMHO marilyn manson absolutely fukin crucified it!
I think the thing is there is no 'identity' anymore, even with (many say) the naff bands of the 80s they had a look and sound. Nowadays watch top of the pops close your eyes and it could be one of a dozen artists doing the song. Ahhh memories sitting in the living room with my parents as a teenager and them saying 'What are you watching this crap for!'
Gary
I think the thing is there is no 'identity' anymore, even with (many say) the naff bands of the 80s they had a look and sound. Nowadays watch top of the pops close your eyes and it could be one of a dozen artists doing the song. Ahhh memories sitting in the living room with my parents as a teenager and them saying 'What are you watching this crap for!'
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09 September 2003, 08:33 AM
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Soft Cells version of "Where did our love go" is a unique one that's for sure. Check out their "Hendrix Medley" for a truly unique version of Purple Haze.
09 September 2003, 08:18 PM
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scoobydooooo - "you have heard all the chords before" - law of averages says we'll run out eventually.
GaryK - "they're not old enough to know about the original Mantronix track" - which was 10 times the tune, especially the club mix.
And I happen to like Steve Wright!
GaryK - "they're not old enough to know about the original Mantronix track" - which was 10 times the tune, especially the club mix.
And I happen to like Steve Wright!
10 September 2003, 03:16 PM
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The problem is all these ******* manufactured and commercial bands, like backstreet boys, spice girls, sclub, all those bands were engineered to make money and take advantage of the younger or the young generation!
It's pathetic really, and I don't agree with it, and because of that bands with real tallent who are in it for the music have to struggle against oncoming tidal wave of commercial crap!
EK
It's pathetic really, and I don't agree with it, and because of that bands with real tallent who are in it for the music have to struggle against oncoming tidal wave of commercial crap!
EK
10 September 2003, 06:24 PM
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Westlife are a successful band of today. Look at their songs “Uptown Girl”, “I’ll Be There”, “I Have a Dream”, “What Becomes of the Broken-hearted?” “Seasons in the Sun”, “On the Wings of Love” etc. I could add many more. Surely their song writing talent can’t be denied.
10 September 2003, 06:27 PM
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And furthermore. I can recall a few years back, many people were saying that Guns 'n Roses were just a bunch of screaming three-chord junkies without any musical or writing talent, then they came up with "Live and Let Die". Humble pie all round.
10 September 2003, 06:50 PM
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At least guns n roses wrote most of their own material, and are you refering to the song or the album? if the song, just to say thay covered it, they didn't write it!
The fact is that westlife, blue, backstreet boys and the like don't write their own material, well, maybe the odd song, but the truth is that they have professional sogn writer write these songs for them, they are no more than mere puppets!
The best example is gareth (What a ******* tw@t) gates! he got oh so rich from performing OTHER PEOPLES songs! he didn't write them! although he is quite happy to make out like it's all his talent! and the fact that he is a product of the manufactured music industry engineered by using a tv show as the tool.
It's a load of flippin cr@p!
Take a look at how a real band works hard - Evanescence - they have been around from quite some years, yet most poeple have only heard of them recently, How many people know that their album 'Fallen' is infact their second album, they've been around, working their asses of, they write their own songs, have a look at there recent hit single 'Bring me to life' - Scribbled in an old notebook, not 'bought' from some fancy pompus song writer hit.
I can name alot of other bands who have gone though the struggle to get themselves known.
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At least guns n roses wrote most of their own material, and are you refering to the song or the album? if the song, just to say thay covered it, they didn't write it!
The fact is that westlife, blue, backstreet boys and the like don't write their own material, well, maybe the odd song, but the truth is that they have professional sogn writer write these songs for them, they are no more than mere puppets!
The best example is gareth (What a ******* tw@t) gates! he got oh so rich from performing OTHER PEOPLES songs! he didn't write them! although he is quite happy to make out like it's all his talent! and the fact that he is a product of the manufactured music industry engineered by using a tv show as the tool.
It's a load of flippin cr@p!
Take a look at how a real band works hard - Evanescence - they have been around from quite some years, yet most poeple have only heard of them recently, How many people know that their album 'Fallen' is infact their second album, they've been around, working their asses of, they write their own songs, have a look at there recent hit single 'Bring me to life' - Scribbled in an old notebook, not 'bought' from some fancy pompus song writer hit.
I can name alot of other bands who have gone though the struggle to get themselves known.
EK
10 September 2003, 06:54 PM
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Prince IMO is a prolific writer of songs not only for himself but for many others. I believe Diamonds & Pearls was a cover but hey, the guys churned out 000's of originals and he can play about 20 instruments!
10 September 2003, 10:05 PM
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Muppet! :P
They are now quite the opposite of unsuccessfull, if you don't like them your entitled to your opinion, but thats now what I am on about, What I am on about is the bands/groups/singers who are basically manufacturered and release songs that they don't write themselves, and that I think that is not right!
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They are now quite the opposite of unsuccessfull, if you don't like them your entitled to your opinion, but thats now what I am on about, What I am on about is the bands/groups/singers who are basically manufacturered and release songs that they don't write themselves, and that I think that is not right!
EK
11 September 2003, 07:02 AM
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I don't have any strong feelings of like or dislike about Evanescence, they just sound no different from a thousand other bands. I asked my mates about them and they've never heard of them.
11 September 2003, 12:32 PM
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All those 60's bands which we'd consider produced classic songs - consider how many of these wrote their own songs.
Who wrote Dancing In The Streets, for example? Sure as hell wasn't Martha and the Vandellas, was it? And the last time Tina Turner wrote a song was probably at junior school.
As for manufactured bands - The Beatles were an exception in that they weren't manufactuerd, as so many pop bands of the 60s and 70s were. Rock bands were and are a different story, but I'd defy anyone to tell me that anything ever produced by the self-writing Def Leppard can even approach the foothills of the greatness which is "Piece Of My Heart" by Irma Franklin. Irma (Aretha's sis) didn't write her own material, but does that make her less of an artiste? Hardly.
So it's not entirely fair to blame Gareth Gates for not being a songwriter, though there are many other reasons, it has to be said. Like the fact that unlike the lately departed Irma, he can't sing to save his life.
Who wrote Dancing In The Streets, for example? Sure as hell wasn't Martha and the Vandellas, was it? And the last time Tina Turner wrote a song was probably at junior school.
As for manufactured bands - The Beatles were an exception in that they weren't manufactuerd, as so many pop bands of the 60s and 70s were. Rock bands were and are a different story, but I'd defy anyone to tell me that anything ever produced by the self-writing Def Leppard can even approach the foothills of the greatness which is "Piece Of My Heart" by Irma Franklin. Irma (Aretha's sis) didn't write her own material, but does that make her less of an artiste? Hardly.
So it's not entirely fair to blame Gareth Gates for not being a songwriter, though there are many other reasons, it has to be said. Like the fact that unlike the lately departed Irma, he can't sing to save his life.
09 November 2003, 09:11 AM
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My belief is that bands and artists should be in it for the music not the money, and that they should write their own material. I would like to see how well many of these manufactured bands would have done if they wrote all their own music and lyrics! Something tells me that they wouldn't be doing so well.
The unfortunate reality is that most of these so called big artists are in it for the money and at the end of the day couldn't really give a flying **** about their fans!
EK
Edited for typo
[Edited by EvilKyote - 9/11/2003 9:14:41 AM]
The unfortunate reality is that most of these so called big artists are in it for the money and at the end of the day couldn't really give a flying **** about their fans!
EK
Edited for typo
[Edited by EvilKyote - 9/11/2003 9:14:41 AM]
09 November 2003, 12:19 PM
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Jed: What?!!?!?! You mean it isn't november yet?!?!?!
LOL.
I have no idea, must be a glitch in the matrix or a time warp thing!
EK
[Edited by EvilKyote - 9/11/2003 12:20:28 PM]
LOL.
I have no idea, must be a glitch in the matrix or a time warp thing!
EK
[Edited by EvilKyote - 9/11/2003 12:20:28 PM]
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