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Old 30 September 2003, 10:02 PM
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Low interest rates force up property prices.
The property market is getting to a point where it's next to impossible to become a first time buyer, this isn't good for the country.
The unemployment figures are fiddled, they have been for years (including the Tories last spell in power). There are many people out of work or looking for work who are not 'allowed' to be counted.
Is that the best you have to offer?

Blair is full of idle promises. His 'jam tomorrow' can only fool some of the people some of the time, and that time's nearly up!
Old 30 September 2003, 10:04 PM
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when I was a kid, you got paid 3p a week and still had change out of it! **** off ps you nugget! Did people get sick of you on the mx5 site you sad old tuat ! you're a waste of oxygen !We are paying for your free tv licence etc w@nker!So watch the telly istead of doing everyone's head in here?
Old 30 September 2003, 10:05 PM
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Who care what u think fossil face, bliar is a cut throat weasel faced smarmy gimp and everyone with any gumption despises his weasel words (ring any bells?) and ways with a vengance. Apart from skeletal dried out prune faced old trolls that is.
Old 30 September 2003, 10:06 PM
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The property market is just that, a market, - subject to market forces!!

Its a free country - if you can't afford it it will either correct itself OR its tuff ...... you can't hack it!!

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Old 30 September 2003, 10:08 PM
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Don't forget to mention the wonderful things Blair and his bunch have done for the pensioners and future pensioners of this country. That's something to be really proud of!
Old 30 September 2003, 10:09 PM
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Inforcer, lewis claims to be a 75 year old nuclear scientist who makes missiles and lives in a £300,000 house. Dam expensive these nursing homes IMO but I'm sure he gets a TV licence flung in with the mashed bananas
Old 30 September 2003, 10:10 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that you lot want everyone else to do EVERYTHING for you ............ you will NEVER make anything out of yourselves!!

Losers!!

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Old 30 September 2003, 10:13 PM
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Errrr.....except a lot of us already have made something out of ourselves.
How exactly do you judge that statement anyway?
Money earned?
Size of yacht?
Size/value of house?
Number of people you **** off on Scoobynet?

Old 30 September 2003, 10:14 PM
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Yup, its broken record time on SN once more, amazing what modern medicine can do for the elderly. Damn doctors playin God IMO.
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Yeah they'll do for starters!!

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Old 30 September 2003, 10:17 PM
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I count myself successful if I wind-up the same 'no hopers' on SN!! and all you ***** have fallen for it once again!! You DO know everyone else are pi55ing themselves at how I can string you lot of Zeros along for a merry dance!!!

I may be 75, but I can demolish the lot of ya'

Pete
Old 30 September 2003, 10:17 PM
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Sheepsplitter etc. Don’t do it man. Take a look at this thread again and look at what you’re falling for, lol. Kids, just say NO to reasonable arguments with this old gimp.

Been there done it to death with this supposed pensioned off old ******.
Old 30 September 2003, 10:19 PM
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But if I wind him up enough maybe he will have a heart-attack, pop his clogs and leave us in peace.
Then I will become a ScoobyNet SuperHero for slaying the old fool.
Old 30 September 2003, 10:20 PM
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Jye - I thought I had destroyed you many months ago, but no - here you are again, letting me show you up as a muppett!!

Pete, the KING of SN
Old 30 September 2003, 10:20 PM
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If only man
Old 30 September 2003, 10:23 PM
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As I said before, unless some wonder new drug can prolong you well past ure already sketchy sell by date then I reckon I'll have the last laugh np, lol.

Another thread wasted by a troll IMO, so nowt to be proud of.
Old 30 September 2003, 10:25 PM
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Just popped back. It's warming up nicely in here...

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Old 30 September 2003, 10:26 PM
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Yer, wonder what we can fling on the fire
Old 30 September 2003, 10:27 PM
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BTW Uncle, nice wheels m8 Would never have taken u for someone with such class
Old 30 September 2003, 10:28 PM
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Right - I think its 8-0 to me, I will get to bed, give you lot of clowns a few hours to think up a collective IQ testing response!!

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Old 30 September 2003, 10:30 PM
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The bikes? Cheers matey. I didn't have you down as a bike rider either.

UB

ps... **** off now, there's a good chap

[Edited by unclebuck - 9/30/2003 10:31:34 PM]
Old 30 September 2003, 10:30 PM
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Yer np man, just shows ye
Old 01 October 2003, 07:29 AM
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Old 01 October 2003, 09:31 AM
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Oi ps - so do you reckon the hospitals are much better? - waiting lists have actually increased under labour (they just force hospitals to fiddle the figures). Did you know what you're not officially on a waiting list until you've seen the consultant which in itself can take up to 18 months! I'm sure you'll soon find out that the treatment of the older generation in our hospitals is nothing short of a scandal. Labours idea to improve the NHS was to abolish tax relief on PMI - fecking stoopid or what as this put more people over 60 back into the health system. And who cost the most to treat - people over 60.

Dont think the streets are safer - crime is increasing!

Education improving??? hmmmn

And as for public transport - Labour are trying to tax us out of our cars, but whats the alternative? Sh1te buses and even worse trains.

Blair is a dumbfeck, a liar and has cheated us all in the search of personal glory. PRIZE **** IMO
Old 01 October 2003, 11:46 AM
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There is a website somewhere that calculates that we effectively work for the government from 1st Jan to 31st June, thats how much tax we pay.
There is SO much wrong with our government that I can't even get started, but sadly there is no effective opposition to Labour !

Just take one item close to all our hearts...income Tax.
How can it be that the standard allowance per annum is around £4,600 - ie if you work 40hrs per week at anything over £2.20 per hour, you pay tax !
Anything over £29,400 and you pay 40% - FORTY F**KING PERCENT ! You can earn £30k relatively easy, surely this should be designed for those earning a little more than £14per hour ?!? And don't forget to add Nat Ins (another income Tax).....

Yup, crime is the way to go - you wont get taxed or caught ?!?

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Old 01 October 2003, 11:58 AM
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Tax is hideous, and nobody wants to pay it. But at the same time we all want services, be these health, education, defence .... so who is going to pay for them. Yes, it's true to say that there's incompetence in government, but the fact remains that it's probably no worse there than it is in any large organisation.

And would there be a change in the amount of tax under any alternative government? Would things get better? Think about the last Conversative government - they cut taxes and for a while everyone was happy. It's easy to boost short term profit (or in this case, reduce short term costs) by refucing your infrastructure spend

So the school playing fielsd and council houses got solf off, the hospitals didn't get refurbished, the rail service declined massively. Abd now these services have to be built back up again to any kind of reasoanbale standards.

To blame this government for spin, Iraq, cheesy grins .... all completely reasonable. To blame them for the very existence of tax is slightly unfair.
Old 01 October 2003, 12:07 PM
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I think the point is that for all the Tax (Income and stealth) we have to pay there are no perceived benefits.

Nothing seems to improve, we just pay more amd more. Yet Blair can quite happily blow billions of *our* money on a war fought seemingly for his own glorification.

That, at least, is why I resent it so much.

UB
Old 01 October 2003, 01:12 PM
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Where i live they are building a huge new hospital and the local college has doubled in size over the last few years.

Builders dont work for free.
Old 01 October 2003, 02:06 PM
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I drive 30,000 mile pa just to get to work, my partner drives about half this.

Most of my journeys are by motorbike, some by car. Even taking into account the 'slightly' better fuel consumption of the bike and the fact that the car is a diesel this still means we face a £4000+ pa fuel tax (now even larger due to GB) just to get to work.

This is a significant portion of my earnings and at present I have no realistic options for changing this situation. I would love to find a good job nearer home but cannot due to the cost of housing.

So much for get 'on yer bike' to find work and so much for BLiars no increase in taxation pledge, he's a wan*er pure and simple

Why cant we claim back fuel tax if we need to use our vehicles to travel to and from work from rural areas, that's what I want to know?
Old 01 October 2003, 02:56 PM
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I agree there should be taxes, but we pay too much for too little - plain and simple. Plus it's heavily disproportionate, you and I pay for too many others !!!

I know there's two sides to every story, but we're paying for...

1) Immigrants. The rule is that those seeking asylum should go to the next safe country along - but they don't, they head for the cosy shores of blighty.

2) Freeloaders and system cheats.

3) Government. If government was a department in a major corpoation, it would NOT be allowed to run as fat and as costly as it does.

4) A totally inefficient health service.

5) Ambulance chasers. Someone is involved in a fender bender, gets a sore neck and a cheque for £10k - you and I pay for this in insurance. (Slightly off topic I know, but annoys me a lot.)

6) Defence. Don't get me wrong, I would rather we had a defence system than not, but it's a blank cheque for the govt. Something like £17bn per annum if I remember correctly.

Th list goes on...and on...and on... I NEED A BEER !

Matt


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