*** BP ULTIMATE FUEL IS HERE: The facts***
07 October 2003, 04:55 PM
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I happen to believe mycroft.
He explained his reasoning and it held more water than simply saying it must be bollox because that to55er mycroft said it.
No one else has been able to offer a technical reason based on organic chemistry.
He explained his reasoning and it held more water than simply saying it must be bollox because that to55er mycroft said it.
No one else has been able to offer a technical reason based on organic chemistry.
07 October 2003, 05:31 PM
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At least it increases the number of outlets for better fuel over 97ron
The chances of this fuel giving detectably superior performance or engine protection or environmental friendliness when compared to Optimax seem to me to be minimal. I shall merely be less wound up in future when the gauge is low and there's no Shell Station in sight........
Phil
07 October 2003, 07:18 PM
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98.6 is a pointless number to consider.
I woulod certainly be looking for the Ultimate over the shell, as they have thought about it more, and not just gone for the highest ron number to convince the masses.
I woulod certainly be looking for the Ultimate over the shell, as they have thought about it more, and not just gone for the highest ron number to convince the masses.
07 October 2003, 07:24 PM
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so soon, the UK might be back to where we were 5 years ago, with 98RON SUL, just like the rest of Europe always retained.
Its amazing how we can have our fuel quality dropped below the rest of europe and then its a fantastic thing when we get back to where we should always have been.
Gotta love the marketing.
Its amazing how we can have our fuel quality dropped below the rest of europe and then its a fantastic thing when we get back to where we should always have been.
Gotta love the marketing.
07 October 2003, 08:09 PM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Internal Communication - Swindon
> Sent: 07 October 2003 13:19
> To: G BSS Swi Users
> Subject: BP Ultimate fuel is launched in the UK
>
>
> Today, BP launches BP Ultimate in the UK. The fuels that give you More
Performance, and Less Pollution.
>
> BP Ultimate is not just one fuel, but two: the UK's best ever dual benefit
performance petrol and the UK's very first performance diesel. In particular
for the first time in the UK, diesel car drivers will now have the choice
between a regular and a performance diesel.
>
> Thanks to its unique leading-edge formulation, BP Ultimate burns more
efficiently and cleans your engine as you drive. This offers higher
performance, sharper acceleration, and more miles per tank, while producing
less harmful emissions
>
> And BP Ultimate is not only designed for Sports cars... It has been
designed to ensure performance and environmental benefits to a whole range
of cars.So whatever you drive, Ford to Ferrari, diesel or petrol, you can
use BP Ultimate in your car and get more from your car and less from your
exhaust!
>
> This is a very exciting initiative for BP...and offers advanced
performance fuels for the consumer. We hope you will try the new BP Ultimate
soon, and become advocate of our new Advanced Performance fuels.
>
> BP Ultimate is available today at 100 BP filling stations, and by the end
of the week at 400 BP outlets nationally. By January 2004, it will be
available throughout the UK.
>
> To find out more about BP Ultimate, visit us at
http://ultimate.bpweb.bp.com from the 9th October.
>
> To read a press release on the launch go to BP World at
http://global.bpweb.bp.com.
>
> The Product Strategy Team
> and
> The UK Retail BU
>
Doesn't mention RON though
> From: Internal Communication - Swindon
> Sent: 07 October 2003 13:19
> To: G BSS Swi Users
> Subject: BP Ultimate fuel is launched in the UK
>
>
> Today, BP launches BP Ultimate in the UK. The fuels that give you More
Performance, and Less Pollution.
>
> BP Ultimate is not just one fuel, but two: the UK's best ever dual benefit
performance petrol and the UK's very first performance diesel. In particular
for the first time in the UK, diesel car drivers will now have the choice
between a regular and a performance diesel.
>
> Thanks to its unique leading-edge formulation, BP Ultimate burns more
efficiently and cleans your engine as you drive. This offers higher
performance, sharper acceleration, and more miles per tank, while producing
less harmful emissions
>
> And BP Ultimate is not only designed for Sports cars... It has been
designed to ensure performance and environmental benefits to a whole range
of cars.So whatever you drive, Ford to Ferrari, diesel or petrol, you can
use BP Ultimate in your car and get more from your car and less from your
exhaust!
>
> This is a very exciting initiative for BP...and offers advanced
performance fuels for the consumer. We hope you will try the new BP Ultimate
soon, and become advocate of our new Advanced Performance fuels.
>
> BP Ultimate is available today at 100 BP filling stations, and by the end
of the week at 400 BP outlets nationally. By January 2004, it will be
available throughout the UK.
>
> To find out more about BP Ultimate, visit us at
http://ultimate.bpweb.bp.com from the 9th October.
>
> To read a press release on the launch go to BP World at
http://global.bpweb.bp.com.
>
> The Product Strategy Team
> and
> The UK Retail BU
>
Doesn't mention RON though
07 October 2003, 09:10 PM
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My car was off the road for 9 weeks. Before it went to Barett's I'd filled it with Optimax. When I got it back it was still pretty much full.
I was advised to take it to power engineering to see if everything was ok i.e not detting. It did not det at any time on the RR at PE and that was with 9 week old Optimax. I also got 301 bhp, not bad for fuel that has lost it's RON
I was advised to take it to power engineering to see if everything was ok i.e not detting. It did not det at any time on the RR at PE and that was with 9 week old Optimax. I also got 301 bhp, not bad for fuel that has lost it's RON
07 October 2003, 10:47 PM
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My local BP just got ultimate - picked up the leaflet expecting it to explain the RON ratings etc - errr no - usual flim flam for the working class and pikies - nothing technical at all.. supposed better ring their help-line and speak to one of the call center 'tards 
07 October 2003, 10:56 PM
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I'm a 'pikey' as you so elegantly put it, and I would understand it just fine.
Are all the people on this board as ignorant as you? I know boss hog is, as his pikey comments can be seen in this very thread.
W4nker$
Are all the people on this board as ignorant as you? I know boss hog is, as his pikey comments can be seen in this very thread.
W4nker$
08 October 2003, 10:20 AM
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You won't have to wait too long before someone claims they gained an extra 82.4BHP from their first tank full 
I should know because that's what I got from my first tank of Optimax
I should know because that's what I got from my first tank of Optimax
08 October 2003, 11:13 AM
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no question marks on the BP's i've driven past as yet & only advert i saw on TV was for optimax so er not exactly a big launch as yet is it......
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08 October 2003, 12:12 PM
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Same as the one I got
Further to our discussion on 07/10/03, here are some key facts about BP Ultimate:
BP Ultimate is a 97-98 RON Unleaded performance fuel that offers:
More performance for any vehicle that can take unleaded fuel
Up to 7.1% more power.
Up to 5.2% sharper acceleration
AND up to 5.8% better fuel consumption.
Tests on BP Ultimate Unleaded showed that the acceleration increase in equivalent to having the next larger engine size e.g It's like upgrading from a 1.8 to a 2.0.
Improves fuel efficiently by helping you go further on less fuel. By using Ultimate you could get up to 25 more miles from a full tank of fuel.
Also doubles the cleaning power of ordinary fuels, in Unleaded case the higher octane rating ensures that fuel burns better as you drive. It also removes performance robbing deposits from your engine that other fuels can leave behind.
BP Ultimate starts working at once and gets better the more you use it.
The increased octane of BP Ultimate is achieved by more thorough refining, not octane boosters.
BP Ultimate will be available in 100 stores within London as of today, and by mid-October all BP sites across the country will have BP Ultimate.
As of 08/10/03 the BP Ultimate website at http://www.BP will be up and running with information regarding the product.
Thank you again for your call, if you have any further queries please don't hesitate to call the BP Careline on 0800 402402.
Freddie Boniface
Customer Care Advisor
BP Oil UK Ltd
0800 402402
Further to our discussion on 07/10/03, here are some key facts about BP Ultimate:
BP Ultimate is a 97-98 RON Unleaded performance fuel that offers:
More performance for any vehicle that can take unleaded fuel
Up to 7.1% more power.
Up to 5.2% sharper acceleration
AND up to 5.8% better fuel consumption.
Tests on BP Ultimate Unleaded showed that the acceleration increase in equivalent to having the next larger engine size e.g It's like upgrading from a 1.8 to a 2.0.
Improves fuel efficiently by helping you go further on less fuel. By using Ultimate you could get up to 25 more miles from a full tank of fuel.
Also doubles the cleaning power of ordinary fuels, in Unleaded case the higher octane rating ensures that fuel burns better as you drive. It also removes performance robbing deposits from your engine that other fuels can leave behind.
BP Ultimate starts working at once and gets better the more you use it.
The increased octane of BP Ultimate is achieved by more thorough refining, not octane boosters.
BP Ultimate will be available in 100 stores within London as of today, and by mid-October all BP sites across the country will have BP Ultimate.
As of 08/10/03 the BP Ultimate website at http://www.BP will be up and running with information regarding the product.
Thank you again for your call, if you have any further queries please don't hesitate to call the BP Careline on 0800 402402.
Freddie Boniface
Customer Care Advisor
BP Oil UK Ltd
0800 402402
08 October 2003, 12:36 PM
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yep I use a full bottle of NF - none of this pansying around with shots and stuff!
£15 - thats a bit steep - if you ermmmmmmmmmmmmm buy in BULK you can get it for about £11ish a bottle - still high I guess
Regarding the degrading of the Optimax - I only go by what I see on the knocklink - although the quality is very variable - maybe from Shell just using boosters in their stuff. If the BP stuff is not as variable then it will give me piece of mind - just need to keep using the boosters (thankfully my sti5 is not my main car and I only drive it about 5000 miles a year)
I'm sure that the quality will be known soon given the amount of people that are starting to map their cars nearer the limit..........
yep I use a full bottle of NF - none of this pansying around with shots and stuff!
£15 - thats a bit steep - if you ermmmmmmmmmmmmm buy in BULK you can get it for about £11ish a bottle - still high I guess
Regarding the degrading of the Optimax - I only go by what I see on the knocklink - although the quality is very variable - maybe from Shell just using boosters in their stuff. If the BP stuff is not as variable then it will give me piece of mind - just need to keep using the boosters (thankfully my sti5 is not my main car and I only drive it about 5000 miles a year)
I'm sure that the quality will be known soon given the amount of people that are starting to map their cars nearer the limit..........
08 October 2003, 01:41 PM
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BP Ultimate is a 97-98 RON Unleaded performance fuel that offers..
08 October 2003, 01:57 PM
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evilkyote,
The website does exist. It's just an internal website. It doesn't show much. Just some pictures of the BP Ultimate pumps in Athens selling the 100 unleaded fuel !!!
Gordo
[Edited by elgordano - 10/8/2003 2:01:35 PM]
The website does exist. It's just an internal website. It doesn't show much. Just some pictures of the BP Ultimate pumps in Athens selling the 100 unleaded fuel !!!
Gordo
[Edited by elgordano - 10/8/2003 2:01:35 PM]
08 October 2003, 02:55 PM
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I got 2 photo's of BP Garge signs with:
There normal unleaded price and diesel price and te third one has a white banner across it with a question mark on it.
There normal unleaded price and diesel price and te third one has a white banner across it with a question mark on it.
09 October 2003, 10:56 AM
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Popped in to my local BP on the way home last night and they were fully stickered up with 'ULTIMATE' plastered everywhere, but as yet no price on the pump, or any little stickers saying what RON it is.
I guess I'll have to pop in again tonight and buy some now that it is 'Launch Day'
I guess I'll have to pop in again tonight and buy some now that it is 'Launch Day'
09 October 2003, 10:56 AM
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This came off the BP Ultimate internal website today:
"BP Ultimate Unleaded has a research octane level of 97, which is higher than standard unleaded petrol, which has a research octane level of 95. This, on average, gives increased power in certain vehicles."
Gordo
"BP Ultimate Unleaded has a research octane level of 97, which is higher than standard unleaded petrol, which has a research octane level of 95. This, on average, gives increased power in certain vehicles."
Gordo