pugoetru

most are around £10 in asda

and once you have copied it you can take it back and swap it

messiah

I usually buy CD's rather than copy them anyway - I prefer a nice inlay book to a grotty printed cover using photocopier paper.

Computer software on the other hand is fair game...

InvisibleMan

i used to be in the business, its the shops that profit the most. I have my figures around somewhere. The artist, record co, marketing generally get the same. The distribution co will sell to shops at around £1-£5 then shops add the 200% markup.

The profit forcasts from the shops over the Christmas week(3days) estimate roughly £3million loss on profit due to copying.

Im sure its the shops that are complaining. If its anyone else then how come they dont take that margin away from the shops. Its all about whose prepared to reduce their profit margins, and as noones prepared to back down its the public that have to suffer.

It was funny in meetings where i agreed on principle and thought the best way forward was to burn your own compilations at the shop (a good idea as i think the majority of albums, half the tracks i can take or leave) but on the other hand, i was doing something entirely different

civictyper

Soz if it's been seen before.

"RIAA BREAKTHROUGH

Music bosses have unveiled a revolutionary new recording format that
they hope will help win the war on illegal file sharing which is
thought to be costing the industry millions of dollars in lost revenue.

Nicknamed "The Record," the new format takes the form of a black vinyl
disc measuring 12 inches in diameter, which must be played on a
specially designed turntable.

"We can state with absolute certainty that no computer in the world can
access the data on this disc," said spokesman Brett Campbell. "We are
also confident that no-one is going to be able to produce pirate copies
in this format without going to a heck of a lot of trouble. This is
without doubt the best anti-piracy invention the music industry has
ever seen."

As part of the invention's rigorous testing process,the designers gave
some discs to a group of teenage computer experts who regularly use
file swapping software such as Limewire and Gnutella and who admit to
pirating music CDs.

Despite several days of trying, none of them were able to hack into the
disc's code or access any of the music files contained within it. "It's
like, really big and stuff," said Doug Flamboise, one of the testers.
"I couldn't get it into any of my drives. I mean, what format is it? Is
it, like, from France or something?"

In the new format, raw audio data in the form of music is encoded by
physically etching grooves onto the vinyl disc. The sound is thus
translated into variations on the disc's surface in a process that
industry insiders are describing as "completely revolutionary" and
"stunningly clever."

To decode the data stored on the disc, the listener must use a special
player which contains a stylus or "needle" that runs along the grooves
on the record surface, reading the indentations and transforming the
movements back into audio that can be fed through loudspeakers.

Even Shawn Fanning, the man who invented Napster, admits the new format
will make file swapping much more difficult. "I've never seen anything
like this," he told reporters. "How does it work?"

As rumors that a Taiwanese company has been secretly developing a 12
inch wide, turntable -driven, needle-based, firewire drive remain
unconfirmed, it would appear that the music industry may, at last, have
found the pirate-proof format it has long been searching for. "

speedking

There is also a more compact 6" version with less data storage Presumably as it's a mechanical system the disks could be double sided <Reaches for patent office phone number>

InvisibleMan

LOL vinyl whats that?

dr_ming

Speedking - you must be too young to remember - they are 7"

speedking

I wish. I can almost remember 78's

pugoetru

lol they were fookin heavy those 78s

wonder if sony make a multichanger for them

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Daft and waste of time, people who pirate, will carry on pirating.

I have a personal MP3 player, so where does that leave me when I tranfer my (legal CD's) to the player?

I have so many CD's, I specifically bought the player so I can have my music at home, then unplug and just plug it in the car. Saves fussing and organising 100's of CD's.

IMO the music idustry brought all this on themselves...if they wern't so greedy and sold CD's a decent price (especially in this country). They could easily price-out the pirates if they wanted too.

I mean, £15 for a CD FFS it's less than $15 in the US [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Wherever there is software stopping you using illegal copies...there is software that will allow you to circumvent any protection (such as DVD ripping software)

[Edited by ALi-B - 11/12/2003 3:59:35 PM]