ScoobyDoo555

Only just - you were very lucky in the hairdressers car a few months back

Can't find the post, but you know it's here, somewhere!!

Dan

Supercue

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Talizman I was referring to a colleague of mine who did exactly what you quoted i.e. wrote to Mercedes who provided evidence and he got off
Although the way S.Wales Plod bang on you would definately believe they have zero tolerance

Lets be honest 80 on a motorway is harsh to say the least.

Out of curiosity what county force do you work for?

iDLe*

I got done by lasergun in Sept - 67 in a 40 - 3 points and chuffed that was all I got...then went thru a speed camera at 35 ish as usual, got flashed and ticket for that too 34 in a 30 FFS!

First point in 10 years.

Spoon

Insurance companies might be interested in your points when quoting you to give themselves an excuse to raise the cost of cover.

You then let them know at renewal that you now have none, as they were taken off mid-year, and they aren't in the slightest bit interested in lowering the premium.

Robbing bástards all of them.

dosenöffner

Had to happen sooner or later.

Surely it is the owners responsiblity to calibrate their own speedo? All speedos are required to over-read if not calibrated anyway.

Tough *******. Why wouldn't a court case stand? The camera is calibrated.

16vmarc

Oh the joys of living in North Yorkshire

talizman

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No it isn't.

Mass produced cars have speedometers that marginally over read, so that the speedo reads more than the cars real speed.

This is a more cost effective way than fitting calibrated speedos to every car. This is also more than sufficient for the purpose that a speedometer serves.

Put it this way, do you know anyone with a calibrated speedometer in their private car?

I don't.

The main reason is, if the driver were to claim that their speedo was reading EXACTLY 30 mph, but the calibrated camera calculated their speed at 32 mph, there is no way a person would get convicted, as they had done everything that could reasonably be expected of them by maintaining 30 mph or less.

Its like drink driving prosecutions for example.

The legal limit is 35 microgrammes of alcohol in 100 milliletres of breath, but if you provide a specimen between 35 and 39 microgrammes, you are not prosecuted to take into account discrepancies in the measuring device etc.

40 microgrammes and above, you are done.

Same as the Gatso tolerances really.

BTW, Supercue, Strathclyde.

talizman

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Yawn.

Who on here knows someone with a calibrated speedo on their private car? lol

Granny. Suck eggs. Teach.


I don't recall saying it had ANYTHING to do with drink driving.

I simply cited another example where there the law takes into account certain tolerances to allow for discrepancies in calibration, under which you are not prosecuted.

And? Whats your point?



I don;t think I could care less really.

dosenöffner

That's raises the question of 'what is the difference between a cop with a radar gun and going down on a women?'.

When you go down on a women you can see the **** behind the bush.

greasemonkey

I'm going to RTM this thread on the grounds that it is an affront to monkeys, and quite probably racist. How would you like being compared with a household appliance, especially a red one? Everyone knows that dishwashers don't come in red...

BTW, top work Jye, glad somebody found it.

Yours faithfully,

grease(not remotely blue)monkey.

Jye

greasemonkey

"It's calibrated your honour. I looked at the dashboard, and saw a set of calibrated marks made with yellow paint."

ChrisB

FWIW, comparing the speedo in my car to a real time GPS based reading displayed an accuracy of +/- 1mph at 80mph.

Scoob's are well known for over reading as get round the dial

OllyK

Damn site better than a Pug 206 then. Reads 30 actually 24 mph via GPS, gets a bit better higher up percentage wise, but still well over reading at 60

lmsbman

Just to clarify all speed measuring devices such as Gatso, laser, vascar have to allow for the speedometer error of 10% +3mph i.e. 36mph in a 30 limit.

All speedometers have to be within 10% of actual reading and most if not all manufacturers set theirs to read slightly over, to allow for margin of error in favour of the driver.

You do sound unlucky, but maybe this just shows that you are not very observant of speed limits or surroundings.

sparkykev

Maybe it's changed since gatsos, but for years it was 10% + 2. ie 35,46,57,68,79. A camera caught me in oxford a couple of years back, for doing 37 in a 30.

jono400

Wifes friend has just received here notice/ fine off going thru a laser trap - safety van" at 35mph- yep 5mph over !!!

Scratch

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Gatso setting 43mph in a 30mph ?

I don't think so.

It is my understanding that the GATSO's and similar fixed cameras are more typically set to limit+10% plus 2-3mph.

Therefore a 30mph zone would more likely have the camera set to 35-36mph.

This should be more than enough to account for driver error, as typically to do 35-36mph your speedo will likely be reading 38+ mph anyway, which is somewhat beyond where it should be in that speed zone.

If you want the offical low down go look at ACPO Guidance

talizman

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Well, phone my forces remote enforcement unit, and tell them that you "don't think so".

Scratch

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43mph must be a special local setting only used in your area where if they set it any lower they just wouldn't have the time to issue all the tickets

talizman

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My "local" camera is loaded on a Friday morning with 800 snaps, enought to capture 400 offenders.

More often than not, the camera is fully used up by Saturday afternoon, even though it is not emptied till the Monday.