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Old 02 December 2003, 11:34 AM
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And that's why the 'media' shouldn't whip up a storm! It's the stupid people that overreact and innocents suffer.

The newspapers(if you can call them that) have a responsibility not to create anarchy ESPECIALLY given that a typical reader of the sun or mirror may live in stupidville.
Old 02 December 2003, 11:41 AM
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--may live in stupidville--

May?
Old 02 December 2003, 11:42 AM
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Old 02 December 2003, 11:43 AM
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There is definitely an echo in here...
Old 02 December 2003, 11:45 AM
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Whip up a storm

What storm ???

One quick visit and he was gone.

No problems here
Old 02 December 2003, 11:46 AM
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You're a good man, grovesy.
Old 02 December 2003, 11:56 AM
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Thats not the first time I have been called that

Old 02 December 2003, 11:57 AM
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Excellent. That's good to know.
Old 02 December 2003, 12:02 PM
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Pervo kiddy fiddlers are the sickest and lowest form of human ever made, they are absolute animals and should be treated as such but you need to look at the bigger picture..

Yes it would be terrible if something happened and I think your right to take precaution and be very aware of the local situation etc, but you should also be aware that this kind of thing is very rare, for instance I bet sports/fast cars and traffic accidents kill or mess up a hell of lot more kids than the pervos do.

Just a thought.
Old 02 December 2003, 12:06 PM
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iDLE - disagree - its not just the 'active' paedos messing up lives - those viewing pics on line do as well. If there wasnt a market for the pictures far less kids would get abused and photographed being abused for these sickos to view on the net!
Old 02 December 2003, 12:17 PM
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B2Z, et all,
Let me just ask one thing.

say, i'm a complete stranger.

If your kids were cycling past my house, and fell off, crying, with a cut knee.
noone else about, am i allowed to give the kid a cuddle, make sure his/her knee is plastered or cleaned up, then give you a call, or take the child home???

My guess is probably not.

It is the scaremongerey put about by uneducated paranoid individuals, that has fcuked up the state of neighbourly, help and respect, that i for one grew up with.

I too like many here have a young son, but i sure as hell am not gonne scare the wits out of him, by wrapping him up in kid gloves.

Pervo's are all over the place, there is nothing you or i can do about it "fact"

the chances of something happening to a child, i'm guessing are like a billion to one, so why make your own like a misery worrying about it?

Just my personal opionion, before anyone gets the blowtorch out!!

i dont agree with wacko jacko's philosophy, but i for one, treat any kid as my own, in terms of talking to them, or keeping an eye on them, if i think they are upto something dodgy or in possible danger themselves.

Its about living and being part of the community, which we all have responsibility fro, like it or not.



BB
Old 02 December 2003, 12:22 PM
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I wouldnt give a kid a cuddle just to be on the safe side, however I would ensure any injury was looked at and treated if necessary plus I'd make sure that the kids parents were called (or police)and would wait outside preferably with a female to corroborate nothing dodgy had ocurred. Sad but gotta be sure not to put yourself in a position which could get twisted.
Old 02 December 2003, 12:23 PM
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Agree to a certain extent but I was speaking just in terms of risks to this guys children, I realise there is a far wider perv problem which really needs to be clamped down on.

Old 02 December 2003, 12:24 PM
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"If your kids were cycling past my house, and fell off, crying, with a cut knee.
noone else about, am i allowed to give the kid a cuddle, make sure his/her knee is plastered or cleaned up, then give you a call, or take the child home???"


You should be able to do this. But because of these sick ***** most blokes feel they can't do this. And who suffers from this again the kids.



Old 02 December 2003, 12:25 PM
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Well said BB

Old 02 December 2003, 12:27 PM
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senior detectives have gone on record saying that the vigilantes who drive paedophiles out of their homes do more harm than good, as offenders who were being monitored and controlled then go to ground and no-one can find out where they are or what they are doing. we have a judicial system for a reason - the reason is that gangs of people going around with axe handles, beating up people who they think may be one thing or another, is barbaric.

maybe people need to look in their *own* cupboards.

the majority of children who are physically or sexually abused are victims to members of their own family

fact.
Old 02 December 2003, 12:29 PM
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Idle, yeah mate agree its sad, but i was just trying to say that for every one potential "known" offender, kids can walk past the houses of many "unknown" or "trainee" offenders.

If he's actually wanted by the old bill, then fair play.
If he's done his time, had treatment, or whatever they do to these sad individuals, then surely he has a right to live, somewhere at least.

I just wish people would not get so worked up about it.

Bravo_2_zero, you are gonna bust a blood vessel mate, or make yourself ill over this, if you ain't careful, i know what you are like. (chill out).

BB



Old 02 December 2003, 12:32 PM
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PC - yep I think its about 80% are family members / relatives or 'friends' of the family.

However I can control and have a good idea that the relatives my kids come into contact with dont pose a danger - its the other 20% I'm ALSO concerned about.

If there was a paedo lurking near my kids school then I'd make damn sure he (/she) didnt do it again
Old 02 December 2003, 12:38 PM
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Jye, what has changed:

www.thesun.co.uk
www.mirror.co.uk
etc.

as billy brag once said - in the war of circulation, it sells newspapers...

...they offer you a picture of stockings and suspenders next to calls for stiffer sentences for sex offenders...

Old 02 December 2003, 12:39 PM
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Hey, what happened to my post???

Damn SN
Old 02 December 2003, 12:41 PM
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If someone still has it in their cache feel free to post it, looks like its vanished into the SN vortex
Old 02 December 2003, 04:05 PM
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BB - I said "Well Said" not well sad...although not being able to do what you said is well said....oh f*ck it !!

Old 02 December 2003, 06:11 PM
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People who have replied to this thread saying peadophiles are the scum of the earth etc.. what are your views and thoughts of rapists living in your area etc?
Old 02 December 2003, 06:13 PM
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oh don't worry about them, Christian; they have all been castrated and/or beaten to death already. and as for people who open their doors onto your car in the supermarket car park...
Old 02 December 2003, 06:56 PM
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Bob - not good to hear about a pedo being in the local area. I can understand how you feel, ex of mine had two girls and we would have been very very watchful of them if we knew there was a pedo in the area, not that we were not watchful of them anyway.

As to what to do, hmm, well, I'd love to join in the hunt, but sods law says we'd get nicked for assault and the bugger would not, which is not fair.

My personal opinion is that pedo's need to be sterlised, to prevent them being able to reproduce, and locked up never to see the light of day again. They shoulf not be released into the community ever, end of story.
Old 02 December 2003, 07:27 PM
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Its a hard one thats for sure. I dont think its as bad as murder but its not far off. For those that do - would u rather your child was murdered or molested but living?

For capital punishment you would have to be 100% sure they were guilty and not just some chap who downloaded some teen **** pics only to find they were 12 year olds and then got busted whilst his PC was in for repairs.

Ive seen some borderline stuff on the net as have most of you I bet - damn Ive had spam into my work email covering pretty much everything at one time or another. If I saw a pic that was advertised as 18+ but was actually 14-15 would that make me a paedo (sp?)? I bl**dy hope not but the way some of you talk I do wonder.

Simon.
Old 02 December 2003, 07:33 PM
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Paedophile in your area.....how about me, I had one living next door!! thank god he's now inside & I've got new neighbours.

Jon.
Old 02 December 2003, 09:26 PM
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I support anyone who kicks the cr*p out of the sick perverts, this country has gone to soft with the likes of these bastar*s, let them rot in hell.
Old 03 December 2003, 01:13 AM
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Yes, let's kill all the pedophiles. Then we can start on the jews eh?



I dont in anyway condone what these people do but murdering them? How can anyone possibly say that that is the right thing to do? These people need either help if they'll accept it or putting somewhere they can be monitored carefully (be that prison or some other option) if they wont.
Old 03 December 2003, 08:27 AM
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Andi - This is not a race issue, nothing to do with it so comparisons are pointless.

Paedophiles are universally hated, irrespective of race, religion or colour. It is wrong for so many reasons.


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