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Old 23 December 2003, 03:06 AM
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Another ex-Cossie owner here...!
(4x4 Sapphire - last of the red top ones. The Escort was never more than a Sierra chassis with a kit bolted ontop )

I prefer the scoob because -

When driven sensibly day to day it's like driving a normal car, not a Transit van!

You can buy a new one with a warranty.

It sounds much better.

It doesn't break down.




Having said that, if Ford made a Cosworth now, I may well have bought one!



*Edited to say, I don't know why I mentioned a warranty... mine was out the window after 4 months anyway!*


[Edited by WRX-STi - 12/23/2003 3:08:19 AM]
Old 23 December 2003, 08:26 AM
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Well Kev, dont think you need my opinion....

If it were me, i'd go for the Escort hands down.
Love the Scoobs..but there's just something about the cossies.

Why not sell the Escort and buy a "not so clean" 3 door for having fun in ?
Old 23 December 2003, 12:46 PM
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well mate love to escorts through and through but when i finally have the choice im buying a scoob. But i do see your point about the escorts being fast.
Old 23 December 2003, 02:08 PM
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Another ex-Cossie owner here...!
(4x4 Sapphire - last of the red top ones. The Escort was never more than a Sierra chassis with a kit bolted ontop )
partly right..the floorpan is 6"shorter than asierra also much lees overhang on the front and rear wheels...anyone who has been able to compare driving a sierra and an escort will telll you the escy is far better ..it has a much better turn in and the bodyshell is much stiffer as it was a properly developed for motorsport use ...not just a floppy 80,s family saloon with a cossie engine shoved in it

the transit van statement is rubbish

to make an escort sound like a scooby i,d have to disconnect a couple of plug leads

plenty of scoobys break down.

johnny..i dont need an old car to rag round the track...you,v seen my escy at knockhill
Old 23 December 2003, 02:11 PM
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Kev..

Very true matey..

Why not sell one of the escs..and buy a scoob aswell..then you'll have a choice to run both.
Old 23 December 2003, 02:16 PM
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johnny..i couldnt bring myself to do it...i couldnt stand the depreciation ...besides with my cossies i have a garage full of future classics
Old 23 December 2003, 02:56 PM
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any chance of a few passenger laps at knockhill one time???

im a mate of rs grants so if hes there ill probaly be around sumwhere.

MB.
Old 23 December 2003, 07:03 PM
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Kev,

how many gearboxes have you been through pete
It was the paddle clutch m8, nuffin 2 do wiv me guvnor

LOL at Mo & Nyle,
Yeah Mo, hey remind me m8 when u said we were gonna see u r metal at the summer holidays what year were u quoting ?

Nyle, u jus listen n learn m8, the adults r talkin

Pete
Old 23 December 2003, 08:15 PM
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mark...no probs..jst come over and ask the next time at knockhill

pete,come on i,m sure i,v heard you lot moaning about the scoobs chocolate gearboxes ..or are they quite strong then?....the standard 2WD cossie gearbox is good for 500+bhp

and yep since you have popped on here mo...when are you getting yer car back?....you,v been saying 2wks for months...i dont think you have it anymore....its all been a big dream ehhhhh?
Old 23 December 2003, 09:14 PM
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partly right..the floorpan is 6"shorter than asierra also much lees overhang on the front and rear wheels...anyone who has been able to compare driving a sierra and an escort will telll you the escy is far better ..it has a much better turn in and the bodyshell is much stiffer as it was a properly developed for motorsport use ...not just a floppy 80,s family saloon with a cossie engine shoved in it
I've driven both & preferred the Sierra, I know of others with the same opinion, (most of whom now drive Evo's!!) .Maybe I was just used to it better, but I know what I prefer

the transit van statement is rubbish
Transit van comment was a dig at the old power sapping MT75 box, which is the most akward and cumbersome of any box I've tried

to make an escort sound like a scooby i,d have to disconnect a couple of plug leads
Hmm.. is that a bite??

plenty of scoobys break down.
Maybe... I know lots of Scooby owners, but only know of one which has actually broken down. Out of all the Cossie owners I know, thay have all had a break down of some sort... (and none of them were old dogs before you say!)

I suppose at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference...

... I just decided to quit living in the past


Oh, and if you want a garage full of appreciating classics, would you not be better with a couple of Jaguar E-Types?

You'd make more with a savings account than you would with any old Ford, unless of course you have a GT40 tucked away .


Old 23 December 2003, 09:25 PM
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Hey

Pete

I wouldn't say it was your Paddle i would just say it was the Cr1p Driver

LOL @ T-Uk

Just watch out for the stank cover's :P

Taz

Well there is a blast from the past, Got any new animals yet ??????

As for the question. I own a Scoob and I wanted a Escort Cossie for 3 year's and Diana managed to change my mind and get a scoob with in a week. But if i had enought money i would still want to get a Mallard Green or Aubergine Escort Cossie though for a play joy.

Cheers Dougie

They still look the dog's Bo11ocks though.

[Edited by dougies549 - 12/23/2003 9:26:34 PM]
Old 23 December 2003, 09:25 PM
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I WANT A STRATOS!(Beats Cossies and Scoobs.Standing still!)

'Nother STELLA Dear?
Old 23 December 2003, 09:36 PM
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wrx,, you must have no feel for a good handling car if you prefer the floppy saff cossies

the mt75 box isnt as bad as some make out ..more often than not its worn out gearlever cradle bushes that make them feel sloppy..anyway i replaced mine with a proper GRP A 7speed

i,v already had an E type V12..but old classiics dont do it for me as i,m still only 33...i prefer the cosworth just now because when i,m an old codger i can go and look at them sitting in the garage and marvel at all the good times i had with them blowing away scoobs and evos!

edited to sort my typo,s


[Edited by kevin sharp - 12/23/2003 9:39:54 PM]
Old 23 December 2003, 10:18 PM
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wrx,, you must have no feel for a good handling car if you prefer the floppy saff cossies
I maybe just didn't give it enough stick, it's wasn't my car you see! The Evo boys agree though

the mt75 box isnt as bad as some make out ..more often than not its worn out gearlever cradle bushes that make them feel sloppy..anyway i replaced mine with a proper GRP A 7speed
If we're getting into replacing boxes then you can easily swap a Scoobs too, and then it's no longer the 'weakest link'

i,v already had an E type V12..but old classiics dont do it for me as i,m still only 33...i prefer the cosworth just now because when i,m an old codger i can go and look at them sitting in the garage and marvel at all the good times i had with them blowing away scoobs and evos!
LOL, Well... I can't really comment on that...

Old 23 December 2003, 10:21 PM
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I like a bit of banter..

Cheers Kev!

P.S. When you going to sell me one of those nice ones you have tucked away!
Old 23 December 2003, 10:55 PM
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Kev,
The first box I had was as much use as a chocolate teapot and burst quite quickly due to all the ragging it was given on the strip m8. N0.2 broke through excessive 6K launches, No.3 broke through excesive 5K launches, No.4 lasted a fair whilst (25K)
once the paddle was removed and I stopped shock loading the gears through launching. No.5 lasted 30K and died due to a serious misselection of gear at high revs (driver brain fade) No.6 though has been well behaved (upto now) and I`ve changed driving to suit But yeah now u come to mention it maybe you`ve hot a point bout gearboxes

Doug, 2 words m8 "ave it" ya cheeky git

Pete
Old 23 December 2003, 10:57 PM
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KEV,must say scooby isn,t that bad a car ,the problem is a lot of the owners buy them more as a fashion acessery,as many probly did in the late 80,s early 90,s with cossie,s,.maybe we come from a diffrent era and it,s the fact we where bought up with cossie,s.rwd,flares,duran duran etc etc,one last question y dont you ever hear the same debate between cossie and intergaralie owners


cheeRS scooby slayer
Old 23 December 2003, 11:06 PM
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I chose my scoob because it was cheap and quick, if i could afford an escort i would ( although a R34 gtr would be nice). Although the escorts dont seem to be that quick, saw a guy at crail who even removed his top spoiler to cut drag but they were timing it with a callender which was fitted to time calders scoob lol.
Old 23 December 2003, 11:08 PM
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WRX, (sorry i dont know your name) noo i,m keeping all my old classics

pete ..buy a cossie....the standard box take a lot of **** (2wd mind)

scoobyslayer..i have clocked you are stu ...if you were wearing flares when the cossies were introduced you are more strange than i thought! PMSL do you have all duran durans albums aswell?
Old 23 December 2003, 11:08 PM
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johnny was that a blue n plate cossie .....
Old 23 December 2003, 11:10 PM
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Hi Pete

In other word's when you say your drivimg changed you are really saying you got old and can't keep up with the big boy's now,just Going to get ma slippers lad's :P

Cheers Dougie

Pete when is your meet taking place ?

[Edited by dougies549 - 12/23/2003 11:19:40 PM]
Old 23 December 2003, 11:14 PM
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ok kev skin tight jeans,you know where im coming from,what made you think it was me
Old 23 December 2003, 11:20 PM
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LOL@johnny

stu ..i,m not telling..you,v blown your cover!
Old 23 December 2003, 11:26 PM
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kev did your mate get the scooby or is he having fun in his bora
Old 23 December 2003, 11:30 PM
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he bought one of those bugly ones..but is in america till mid january...after i have driven it i will post my thoughts/comments on it on a new thread here
Old 23 December 2003, 11:32 PM
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bugly as in UGLY
Old 24 December 2003, 12:12 AM
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LOL @ Doug re the big boys comment GTFOH
What u sayin m8 ? U been listening in when we`re talkin
That last time u were up this end m8 u were more than welcome 2 come on out 4 a blap (poviding u had a spare pair of wares wiv u ) Hey, Big Ally G had a run and I got some good positive comments from him.

Our meets on the 28th m8 see thread http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...hreadid=279707
wot u wanna nip over ?

Thread hijack mode off (soz kev)

L8r
Pete
Old 24 December 2003, 12:17 AM
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Pete "No6 M8"?

Can I have 1?(How much?)

Steve.
Old 24 December 2003, 10:29 AM
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Just to keep the arguement going. Just sold my Scooby road car for a BMW 330D mega comfort , plenty of power and lots of toys plus 45 mpg . Also sold me mk1 escort rally car for an Escort Cosworth rally car. It is an ex-works recce car with a Mountune engine and would blow most scoobys away in the woods or on the road !
Old 24 December 2003, 08:41 PM
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bttt just to keep kev happy


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