Sti and Focus Rs playing on the M5
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Oh deary me, these boys are taking all of this far too seriously, and biting on posts in the mistaken belief that they offer a bona fide challenge to the original contention, when instead however they are clearly ridiculing it!
[Edited by Devils Advocate - 1/5/2004 9:30:04 PM]
[Edited by Devils Advocate - 1/5/2004 9:30:04 PM]
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can't understand why so many RS drivers can't pull away from the line
Ford have issued an ECU update to try and prevent the bogging down you can get but I never thought it was that bad until now. If you watch carefully you can see the Focus pull away and then appear to pause before moving again at any speed.
Ford have issued an ECU update to try and prevent the bogging down you can get but I never thought it was that bad until now. If you watch carefully you can see the Focus pull away and then appear to pause before moving again at any speed.
This is why Ford dont want to up the BHP any further until they develope a 4WD chassis for the Focus.Which the 300+ BHP Cosworth Focus will have,if it's ever produced.
Does the ECU not kill the power also because of the over-boost problem or is that now sorted?
If the car had been released for sale at the time of my invite from Ford to see it on Boreham air field (it didn't show up for technical reasons)then I may well have been tempted.
But I wasn't so I am now on my 4th Scooby. MY03 WRX PPP (Stealth) Wagon.
[Edited by FLAT ERIC - 1/6/2004 7:47:51 PM]
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REMEMBER after all this its still a FORD.
Ask yourself would you pay £20k for a car that cant drive in a straight line without you fighting the wheel.
You cant polish a DOG T#RD.LOL
Come back Jonmorris.......
Ask yourself would you pay £20k for a car that cant drive in a straight line without you fighting the wheel.
You cant polish a DOG T#RD.LOL
Come back Jonmorris.......
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Just to add my 2 penneth worth ......
Focus is a worthy adversary cross country - and very fast - but only on smooth dry roads, as it seems to be set up a bit stiff. Their brakes are great though - mine were starting to fade before I turned off!!
Just for the record - my pretty much standard WRX 03 (which produced 252bhp at Power Engineering) - easily beat this Focus RS off the lights, with both of us doing a full bore start and I had about 3 car lengths in hand when I backed off at the magic ton!
Focus is a worthy adversary cross country - and very fast - but only on smooth dry roads, as it seems to be set up a bit stiff. Their brakes are great though - mine were starting to fade before I turned off!!
Just for the record - my pretty much standard WRX 03 (which produced 252bhp at Power Engineering) - easily beat this Focus RS off the lights, with both of us doing a full bore start and I had about 3 car lengths in hand when I backed off at the magic ton!
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why can't someone post a decent "encounter" without having the whole of the Subaru community yet again get up in arms, yes I drive a subaru, yes its fast as ****, but I'll roll over and accept a beating if and when it happens, the only car to do this so far is an RS6 but thats not to say that a tuned RS couldn't beat me. At the end of the day I'd rather have a new RS than a 8 year old STI anyway
Subarus whilst fun are not invincible
[Edited by willgill - 1/8/2004 12:20:10 PM]
Subarus whilst fun are not invincible
[Edited by willgill - 1/8/2004 12:20:10 PM]
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The standard ECU is programmed to cut the power available in both 1st & 2nd gear.This lessens wheel spin & reduces tyre wear.The developement guy & owner that I see at the Optimax saloon says this was built in after testing showed it to be more user friendly.His words not mine.
Obviously FWD has the disadvantage here, so to do a proper drag race you've got to try and overcome this problem to test the performance of the car - otherwise you're only testing the traction and nobody can deny that any 4WD car has the upper hand in a lot of situations.
The restriction has been slightly lessened now and why Ford have only just issued this ECU software is anyones guess - but it stops the bogging down problem when you pull away. Even the Bluefin still has the bogging down problem (the solution, remove Bluefin, upgrade ECU and re-add Bluefin).
I'd love to see someone race who has had the upgrade!
This is why Ford dont want to up the BHP any further until they develope a 4WD chassis for the Focus.Which the 300+ BHP Cosworth Focus will have,if it's ever produced.
Even people who have done some serious mods haven't yet reached 300bhp but of course some nutter will do it regardless of how easy it is to drive..
The Focus Cosworth would need to be a minimum of 300 because in 2005/6, I'm sure even Peugeot will have something approaching that in a 206 or whatever.
Does the ECU not kill the power also because of the over-boost problem or is that now sorted?
[Edited by jonmorris - 1/11/2004 6:27:05 PM]
#37
REMEMBER after all this its still a FORD.
Ask yourself would you pay £20k for a car that cant drive in a straight line without you fighting the wheel.
You cant polish a DOG T#RD.LOL
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