fatherpierre

At last:

another my car is faster than your car thread.

NACRO

Wibe nobody is saying a 0-60 in sub 6 seconds car is slow, the problem is all I've ever seen are standard models (I presume) which I have easily beaten in my old Impreza.

I'm sure with the right modifications the BMW 3.0 Diesel engine is capable of some impressive speed, the stock time of a 330D is more like 7 seconds though isn't it?

NACRO

but my car is faster than yours- if you have a 330D that is.

Anyway whats wrong with that kind of thread? It's what scoobynet is all about surely?

WIBES69

thats a fair point duckpond,
but the M3 engine is at its starting point in standard form, wear as mines pretty much up there,
the company who remapped mine do M3s also,
M3 standard from 340 to 372bhp and thats just the basic remap,
loads more room to manuvere in M3s engine

fatherpierre

I like em NAC.

They make good, funny reading. It's nice to see people getting wound up over something so meaningless.

NACRO

interesting.........why didn't BMW get more out of the CSL if those figures are correct. I thought the M3 lump was maxxed out in terms of development.

fatherpierre

I read they reached the safe limit with the CSL and any more power would have brought reliability issues.

Gubbins

...it is, WISE man doesn't know what he's talking about (clearly, as he thinks his derv guzzler is properly quick and a new M3 has loads of scope for performance enhancements - even though it's already over 100bhp/litre and naturally aspirated). Yes you can get a BIT more from an M3, but the engine will be outside tollerances and won't last long. Hence, the next M3 will have a all-new engine, although probably still 6 cylinder due to weight.

Duck_Pond

The latest M3 in CSL guise has a cardboard boot-lining, presumably to reduce weight. Makes you wonder what will be sacrificed when the next generation M3 arrives with a bigger, heavier engine...

Maybe go down the Mac F1 route with the ultra-light wheels etc? If so, it'll be interesting so see how it is priced.

Oh, and don't get me wrong - I like the 330i and 330d. Unfortunately for them, like the TT, their sales success means they're all too common!

WIBES69

gubbins,
37 posts on scoobynet and all spent on me!!
bless,
im not an expert and neither i expect are you,
i get me info on what i read as do you,
DMS are a reputable company who advertise in all BMWS mags,
autocar, topgear etc,
so i go on there figures,
sti 8 ppp,
richard burns wannabe!!!
go the whole hog and get the brain tuma and go and annoy someone else,,
if you were going off your own knowledge you wouldnt be arguing the toss you would know how good the car is and respect it for that instead of slatting it and calling it an oil burner,
sti8 super car,
super guzzler,
super residuals,
super plastics,
i thought cars were suppose to evolve not get slower??
i would switch to the evo 8 330 if i were you!!

Gubbins

so the race you asked for is off then? Ho ho.

"DMS are a reputable company who advertise in all BMWS mags,
autocar, topgear etc," - so what - the responsiblity is yours once they've pushed an M3 over the limit - no warranty and a limited engine life - that was my point.

nasty comments re brain tumor. no comment.

"if you were going off your own knowledge you wouldnt be arguing the toss you would know how good the car is and respect it for that instead of slatting it and calling it an oil burner,"...

it is an oil burner. I never slated it - it's a good car. It's just not as quick you continually go on about (as do other DERV bores). It's common (as are all 3-series beemers now). It's boring. It's uninspiring. It's diesel.

"sti8 super car,
super guzzler,
super residuals,
super plastics,
i thought cars were suppose to evolve not get slower"

STI8PPP slower than which previous std. uk impreza precisely? If it is, then it's only 10ths, and I'd happily sacrifice that for a new car with a good safety record.

And as for the number of posts...well, I enjoy winding you up and it's time well spent as far as I'm concerned.

MattOz

Wibes,

Not sure about your Burnsie comment, but I'd be happy to meet up and discuss the 330d with you if you're about. Mine is still std 204 bhp but could be tempted to upgrade. I work in Cov, so not too far from you.

Nacro,

I take onboard the commments about being in the right gear at the right speed etc. I'm sure that a 330i or 330d would happily stick with a standard WRX from about 40 onwards through the gears, but I suspect that an STI would be considerably quicker.

I'd also like to see how much transmission loss was a factor. My STI 5 gave 261 bhp and 189 at the wheels. I bet my 330 doesn't have much less at the wheels now. Will have to find out one day once it's fully run in.

Earlier on someone said that the 330 was heavy. It's not that heavy, and certainly not much more than a WRX. I'd be surprised if there was more that 50-100kg in it.

Matt

Gubbins

Wibes - I've owened a 330ci and driven a 330d pool car for 1 month, and a mates M3 for 1 week prior to getting the scooby. So although the 330d is not the same as your souped up version, I reckon I know what I'm talking about.

WIBES69

gubbins,
you will be a regular soon,
sorry mate but you do get warranty with DMS
as i said, proper company,
while were chatting your sti8 is worth about the same as the BMW
around £20k
whooops!!!!
there goes a 1k
weeeeeee!!!!!
and another 1k
might as well get out and enjoy it mate while its still worth something,
whooooppppss!!! there she goes again 1k
the race is on gubbins
john'o' groats to lands end!!!
500 miles on a tank for me= 1 pit stop
sti8 MMmmmmm!!!!! 3 pit stops= me win
hands down,
chequered flag!!!
back of the net........

WIBES69

hi matt,
glad to meet up mate,
take it for a spin and see what you think,
you will be impressed,
mail me you number and we will catch up one day in the week,
cheers,

Gubbins

There's a word for people who buy your type of car. Dullards.

As for depreciation - I'm more than happy to pay for the performance, significantly greater than yours as it is. Most of my journeys are short and on b-roads - I don't give a monkeys about filling up more frequently.

If I'd wanted a car that depreciated slowly, I'd have bought one. But I wanted a fast scooby instead. Please don't feel smug for buying a derv guzzler - you just made the opposite choice to me.

As I said before - go and discuss fuel economy elsewhere matey, it's really of no interest here, nor are folk who think their sensible buy is actually a performance car. Yawn. I'm singing off this thread.

NACRO

quote: "go the whole hog and get the brain tuma and go and annoy someone else"

That really sucks, I'm prime candidate for a wind up but commenting on RB's tumour like that is just ******* sick. I hope you aren't ever in that position yourself. It's not a matter for jocularity whatever you feel the provocation might be. You sick ******.

Just thought I'd add land's end to john o groats is about 900 miles you not 500, you obviously haven't driven it.

[Edited by NACRO - 1/21/2004 4:09:51 PM]

WIBES69

gubbins,
thought you would have signed off earlier matey!
cbeebies started ages ago,
no fun watching it with blinkers on mate,
off for a group buy of rear lexus lights me thinks!!
dont worry about filling up me sti8,
loadsa money!!
im considerably richer than you!!!
topic states BMW 330i?
original reply,
great car and 330d is great alternative!!

WIBES69

NACRO,
life sucks mate,
burns got payed millions to willingly risk his life for his love,
it happens to us all,
i have a terminally ill neice with same thing,
lifes cruel but ya gotta keep smillin
same with senna,
my idol and died doin what he loved most,
burns family i feel for in this case,family alwys suffer,
atleast they want for nothing not like some poor family who lose their dad because he gets killed trying to stop some thug nicking his car!

Gubbins

Oh, I couldn't resist...anyone who's still reading, check this out:

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=277845

So, so funny. Our dear friend Wibes gets equally offensive in this thread too. What I find most interesting is he wanted to sell the Beemer and buy an STI - priceless.

WIBES69

nacro,
i sed my car does 500 mile on full tank, 1 pit stop,
didnt say journey was 500 mile,
appology accepted you sick ******

marklemac

Geez, how these threads do go off topic....

Anyhow, I had a MY01 330i sport for 18 months (thought I'd have a change from the Jap scene).

They are a different breed of car. Very smooth, silky and very comfortable too. But after a while I did find the drive boring because as a driver you didn't seem to have too much involvement with the car. I had the steptronic gears and these were great. Kick down was amazing. Yes the car is quick, but it is certainly not warp speed. MPG wasn't that good either. It would only average around 24/25mpg.

Got rid of it in the end because the 3 series is everywhere now and becoming the Vectra/Mondeo of the rep world. The other thing was that there is nothing to distinquish a 318 from a 330. They all look the same. I had M3 mirrors on mine and some Reiger bumpers too, just to be different. Handling was OK, but not up to the previous 4 wheel drive cars I had before.

In the end I was aching to get back into a scoob, so I went to my local Subaru dealer and had a test drive in a STi7. Wow, what a difference. Did the deal on the spot and haven't looked back since.

My STi7 PPP again is a different breed from the BMW's.

However, in terms of performance there is no comparison. The beemer was quick, but the STi is rapid.

MPG is better on my STi too. Get around 25/26 combined. A minor difference, but better.

+ scoobs aren't everywhere like 3 series....& I like that.

As for the diesels, yes they are nippy and certainly require you to change down to take them, but again still no match.

Cheers !

Gubbins

...oh and you were selling a 34K car (according to you) for 21K, 1 yr old. Now what were you saying about depreciation? My STI with PPP, 18" alloys & sills cost 27K new, will probably get 10k in 3 yrs time, being realistic). 17K lost, to your 13K in 1 yr.

You are one bull*hit merchant matey. You're full of it...and it's been a pleasure winding you up!

WIBES69

sorry mate, thats my brother in laws who wanted to get into scooby scene,
it was driving his that made me sell the RB5 and buy one!!
sorry bud,

WIBES69

ps, its been a pleasure sir,
winding you up and playin tiger woods 2004,
great way to spend a day!
buy the way, any luck on the lexus lights group buy!!
ha ha,
weeeeeeee!!!!
another 1k off yours,

WIBES69

cant bleive your selling it mate on for sale forum,
new you would see the light!!!

Gubbins

Wibes - just admit you've been rumbled!

..read the whole thread - either you're a complete liar now, or you were then. Which are we to believe? I suggest it was yours matey.

(for example, you said "cheers for the comments mate, am i mad selling, it is a crackin motor,first car in a long time i havent been bored with after 2 days!!!!and its diesel for gods sake!!!)

I reckon you couldn't sell it last month, so you've had it tweaked in some vain attempt to get performance close to the car of your dreams - an STI8.

As I said, priceless.

You are one person not to be trusted.

NACRO

wibes I didn't apologise anywhere, sorry if you misunderstood.

Just to make it clear I'm not apologising at all, not even a little bit. As for being a sick ****, well yes, just not in the same way you are. Those RB comments mark you out as a low life.

Gubbins

Who said this yesterday...

"decided no more scoobys but this is very...very tempting!!!
where abouts are you mate, pound notes waiting,"

Hummm??? Our friendly colleague from Coventry who can't spell to save his life. I'm enjoying this.

WIBES69

gubbins, i hate you and i hate you to nacro,
im the lowlife,
where you from nacro,
some scummy little town i think you said...